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ttystikk

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45 days they look really good<,-----------



could you mention how many watts of cob you are using in the same area as
how many watts of HID?
Nah, they got cooked with way high nute strength early, fucked up my ratios. They did bounce back okay, but this run is not gonna be one for the books, more like how well these lights let you get back on the fairway after screwing the pooch real good. I think 'forgiveness', aka fault tolerance, is a very desirable trait and this tech has it in spades.

Think he said 2700 watts x2.
Correct. 2700W actual draw per side, 900W per 24 sq ft trellis.

This is exactly the same wattage drawn by five 860W CDM Allstart lamps running on magnetic ballasts, also lighting the very same half dozen vertical trellis panels.

It's a straight head to head.
 

SSGrower

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Catching up on the thread, nice work. Does your chiller have sidearm circuit for domestic hot water to or just baseboard heat?
 

ttystikk

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Catching up on the thread, nice work. Does your chiller have sidearm circuit for domestic hot water to or just baseboard heat?
It's a hot water tank with a water to water heat exchange coil and natural gas backup.

I'm not sure I'll need the water to be more than 110F to do what I need it to do around the house and grow, and they said it would run that warm, provided there was sufficient heat to remove from the cooling circuit.
 

SSGrower

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It's a hot water tank with a water to water heat exchange coil and natural gas backup.

I'm not sure I'll need the water to be more than 110F to do what I need it to do around the house and grow, and they said it would run that warm, provided there was sufficient heat to remove from the cooling circuit.
So you can actually draw water from the unit for say a shower? More accurately it has the capacity to do this without "costing" extra energy?
 

ttystikk

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So you can actually draw water from the unit for say a shower? More accurately it has the capacity to do this without "costing" extra energy?
The chiller has a capacity of 5 Tons of chilling- and 7.5 Tons of hydronic heating! Each circuit is separate and closed loop.

It isn't costing extra power, the heat is being removed from the cooling side. Instead of being blowing directly into the air outside, it hearts a hot water circuit first. Excess heat beyond that needed to heat the hot side water circuit is rejected into the atmosphere conventionally. It's a fuckin sick setup.
 

SSGrower

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The chiller has a capacity of 5 Tons of chilling- and 7.5 Tons of hydronic heating! Each circuit is separate and closed loop.

It isn't costing extra power, the heat is being removed from the cooling side. Instead of being blowing directly into the air outside, it hearts a hot water circuit first. Excess heat beyond that needed to heat the hot side water circuit is rejected into the atmosphere conventionally. It's a fuckin sick setup.
That's what I was hoping I didn't see any brand or model info, but any chance you'd share? I saw the cost.
 

SSGrower

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Thanks, food for thought or more my reason for asking wouldn't it be nice to cool your house in the summer, store the heat in geothermal well or cistern?
 

ttystikk

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Thanks, food for thought or more my reason for asking wouldn't it be nice to cool your house in the summer, store the heat in geothermal well or cistern?
I have little need to store heat since I'm making more all the time in my grow room. It's a matter of moving heat from where it isn't desired to where it is. The chiller's job is merely to move that excess heat up the temperature gradient, thereby making it more accessible for use.

The house will be both heated and cooled, not just for the plants but the living spaces, too.

In a similar, but simplified approach, I've been using a 2 Ton chiller's rejected heat to warm my house this past winter- and this was the fourth winter I've done it!
 

SSGrower

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I AM going all COB, and I'm comforted by the knowledge that they're 'only' 56% efficient yet; that other 44% will be plenty to keep me warm in a Colorado cold snap!
Due to certain constraints there is no possibility of a garden of mine needing 5ton cooling but a 2ton unit instead of ac plus zoneing units can be remote and ductless......
 
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