Troopergate not over yet

ElBarto

ElBarto

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Interesting piece in Newsweek, after summarizing the Blanchflower report, points out that there's more to come.

Some weeks ago, the McCain team devised a plan to have Palin file an ethics complaint against herself with the State Personnel Board, arguing that it alone was capable of conducting a fair, nonpartisan inquiry into whether she fired Monegan because he refused to fire Wooten, who had been involved in a messy custody battle with her sister. Some Democrats ridiculed the move, noting that the personnel board answered to Palin. But the board ended up hiring an aggressive Anchorage trial lawyer, Timothy Petumenos, as an independent counsel. McCain aides were chagrined to discover that Petumenos was a Democrat who had contributed to Palin's 2006 opponent for governor, Tony Knowles. Palin is now scheduled to be questioned next week, and the counsel's report could be released soon after.​

Will we actually get to hear Palin respond to a not totally sympathetic questioner one more time before the election?

Meanwhile, Time has an interesting take on the Branchflower report.

[T]he Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.

The 263 pages of the report show a co-ordinated application of pressure on Monegan so transparent and ham-handed that it was almost certain to end in public embarrassment for the governor. The only surprise is that Troopergate is national news, not just a sorry piece of political gristle to be chewed on by Alaska politicos over steaks at Anchorage's Club Paris.​

Is Caribou Barbie really the best McCain could do?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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"Is Caribou Barbie really the best McCain could do?"

The better question would have been: "Is McCain the best Palin could have done?"

Vi
 
Twistyman

Twistyman

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Just calling a spade a spade...... mothers ethics & daughters morals... both on par.......
Hypocrisy at it's best...brought to you by.......have a guess...... La cote droite..
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Put a fork in it .... Troopergate is not only a non-starter, its done.

Now on the other hand, about that Ayers/ACORN thingie ...

Vi
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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No that's sounds more like something you'd do. Damn cat has no health care, doesn't have a right to live.......

Not my fault Palin doesn't know how to work a condom so that knowledge couldn't trickle down to her daughter.



ViRedd said:
You're such a kind, compassionate soul. I bet you squash bugs and set cats on fire too.

Vi
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Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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Put a fork in it .... Troopergate is not only a non-starter, its done.
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i got a shiny nickel that says it'll get bigger. and i'd be very surprised if palin cooperates until after the election.
 
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******

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o on ayers / acorn the evidence say more repub. destractions , and setting up the argument u cheated to win . so far i saw a woman show a stack of 5000 applications and 2 had problems so she's not going to work on them til she has time like after nov 4th . all i'm saying if u can show a stack and only give 2 examples and ur going to act like case closed u r not a reliable thruth teller
 
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Parker

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Has anything been proven about the alleged threats towards Palins family? If those threats are true, I'm with Palin on this issue.
 
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Bongulator

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Abuse of power is okay if you're threatened? How about vigilantism? Because that is, in a sense, what she did...even IF her family was threatened. We have laws for a reason, and we elect officials to enforce the laws, not break them. If there was a threat, and evidence to support that allegation, she wouldn't have needed to abuse her power by using Todd as her strongarm flunky.
 
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Parker

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Bongulator said:
Abuse of power is okay if you're threatened? How about vigilantism? Because that is, in a sense, what she did...even IF her family was threatened..
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It doesn't bother me to see someone protecting their family and in turn getting a bad cop off the streets. When a cop threatens a mayors family and his supervisor did not fire him the supervisor needs to be let go and the cop should do jail time as well as loose his job. That's the real issue. Of course I would put on pressure to fire the bum.

"The inquiry found that while it was within the governor's authority to dismiss Monegan, Palin violated the public trust by pressuring those who worked for her in a way that advanced her personal wishes.
"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired," the report said."

The above is what I've read so far. Its rather silly to mention it was to advance a personal agenda. So if the officer threatened a state senator and not the mayor and the Mayor gets involved its somehow different because it's not personal? lol right......
Any reaction to a threat against the Mayors family should not be brushed off as a personal agenda.

Bongulator said:
We have laws for a reason, and we elect officials to enforce the laws, not break them.
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LOL We don't elect officials to correctly enforce laws. Look at their voting record. Thats like saying you back the Chicago Cubs because of their record for winning the World Series. Hoping and doing are two different things.

Bongulator said:
If there was a threat, and evidence to support that allegation, she wouldn't have needed to abuse her power by using Todd as her strongarm flunky.
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All I've read is a statement saying she abused her power. I haven't read anything yet that leads me to believe she abused her power. Once the findings are published I could easily think differently.

We've got bigger fish to fry than to worry about Palin protecting her family from a cop. Maybe you can go overboard protecting your family but this case isn't close to being one of them. I applaud her for going after the bad cop and not sitting on her ass like a wimp and taking it.

Now I read
" Meanwhile, at the beginning of the Wednesday 10am hour of FNC’s America’s Newsroom, co-anchor Megyn Kelly cited the new evidence: "...now we learn this morning that e-mails actually back up Palin's claim that Monegan was fired because of insubordination over budget issues and not having anything to do with that trooper issue." In a report that followed, correspondent Dan Springer explained: "Those e-mails are between the Palin budget director and her top cop, Walt Monegan. And they do seem to suggest that there were some problems brewing in this administration before Monegan was fired. Now the McCain-Palin camp is releasing those e-mails and making the case that Monegan was fired for insubordination, not because he refused to fire Palin's ex-brother-in-law."
In addition to leaving out the newly released emails, the Early Show segment also failed to describe any of the allegations against trooper Mike Wooten. On America’s Newsroom, Springer quoted McCain-Palin spokesperson Meg Stapleton: "This is a man who was out there, who has tasered his son, who's killed a moose illegally. Who's threatened to kill her father, who's abused her sister. She had the right to say, ‘I have concerns about a guy who still patrols my neighborhood.’" Reid did quote Stapleton in his report, but only a brief statement regarding Monegan’s firing."
 
Kludge

Kludge

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Good info Bart, gotta show this idiot for the moron that she is. And with McCain having a 1,092% chance of dying or being incapacitated in the next 4 years I sure as hell don't want that cunt anywhere near the White House.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Everytime I say McCain is going to die in the next 4 years people just scoff. I'm glad someone else thinks so too.

I'd rather see the white house burn to the ground than Palin's fake lying ass get in there. uuggghhhhh !!!!



Kludge said:
Good info Bart, gotta show this idiot for the moron that she is. And with McCain having a 1,092% chance of dying or being incapacitated in the next 4 years I sure as hell don't want that cunt anywhere near the White House.
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Twistyman

Twistyman

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ViRedd said:
Put a fork in it .... Troopergate is not only a non-starter, its done.

Now on the other hand, about that Ayers/ACORN thingie ...

Vi
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But Vi, Ayers/acorn are actions of others out of the control of the candidate.,(Oh I see Acorngate) ..where as Palin WAS in control, and IS the candidate...big difference... If you slap MM, am I to be blamed because I'm on is side... Republican logic rears it's head again.. If guilt is given by association, McCain is a criminal because Bush is a war criminal, in the opinion of the world court.... McCain, hero/collaberator (sp) tomato/tomato..see easy to slander :bigjoint:
 
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******

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Parker said:
It doesn't bother me to see someone protecting their family and in turn getting a bad cop off the streets. When a cop threatens a mayors family and his supervisor did not fire him the supervisor needs to be let go and the cop should do jail time as well as loose his job. That's the real issue. Of course I would put on pressure to fire the bum.

"The inquiry found that while it was within the governor's authority to dismiss Monegan, Palin violated the public trust by pressuring those who worked for her in a way that advanced her personal wishes.
"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired," the report said."

The above is what I've read so far. Its rather silly to mention it was to advance a personal agenda. So if the officer threatened a state senator and not the mayor and the Mayor gets involved its somehow different because it's not personal? lol right......
Any reaction to a threat against the Mayors family should not be brushed off as a personal agenda.



LOL We don't elect officials to correctly enforce laws. Look at their voting record. Thats like saying you back the Chicago Cubs because of their record for winning the World Series. Hoping and doing are two different things.



All I've read is a statement saying she abused her power. I haven't read anything yet that leads me to believe she abused her power. Once the findings are published I could easily think differently.

We've got bigger fish to fry than to worry about Palin protecting her family from a cop. Maybe you can go overboard protecting your family but this case isn't close to being one of them. I applaud her for going after the bad cop and not sitting on her ass like a wimp and taking it.

Now I read
" Meanwhile, at the beginning of the Wednesday 10am hour of FNC’s America’s Newsroom, co-anchor Megyn Kelly cited the new evidence: "...now we learn this morning that e-mails actually back up Palin's claim that Monegan was fired because of insubordination over budget issues and not having anything to do with that trooper issue." In a report that followed, correspondent Dan Springer explained: "Those e-mails are between the Palin budget director and her top cop, Walt Monegan. And they do seem to suggest that there were some problems brewing in this administration before Monegan was fired. Now the McCain-Palin camp is releasing those e-mails and making the case that Monegan was fired for insubordination, not because he refused to fire Palin's ex-brother-in-law."
In addition to leaving out the newly released emails, the Early Show segment also failed to describe any of the allegations against trooper Mike Wooten. On America’s Newsroom, Springer quoted McCain-Palin spokesperson Meg Stapleton: "This is a man who was out there, who has tasered his son, who's killed a moose illegally. Who's threatened to kill her father, who's abused her sister. She had the right to say, ‘I have concerns about a guy who still patrols my neighborhood.’" Reid did quote Stapleton in his report, but only a brief statement regarding Monegan’s firing."
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if if if a frog had wings it wouldn't bunp it's ass
 
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