Tried my best to fix – Not looking good

troutfarm

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Plant info... Northern Lights, 5.5 weeks into flower, LED grow lights, FFOF soil mixed with perlite, 3-gallon fabric pot, water about twice a week, feed every other watering, feed with FF Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, and Grow Big following their schedule (usually mixing half strength), and added some Cal-Mag at various times to help combat problem below. Also used Great White mycro early on and throughout veg.

So about 3 weeks ago I realized I was making a major amateur mistake with this grow for many weeks. I was adjusting the water ph before adding nutes! Silly mistake. And through later testing it seems that on at least 3 or 4 feedings I most likely had a ph below 6.0, a time or two maybe way lower. When I realized the mistake 3ish weeks ago I immediately went into damage control and flushed with proper ph water, and used cal-mag and light FF nutes to deal with what looked like deficiencies.

I'm still an amateur but the damage from the beginning seemed like a Cal-Mag deficiency, which made sense since my ph was lower than 6.0 a few times putting Calcium and Magnesium outside of root absorption (at least according to a chart indicating which nutrients adsorb best at a given ph range).

So here I am, 5.5 weeks into flower, and although the flowers look pretty decent to me, the fan leaves are decimated and the damage is starting to get into the larger sugar leaves. My question is, now what?? Do I stay the course, water twice a week with nutes every other while keeping ph right and hope she makes it to the end? Or does anyone have any other ideas? Sorry about the long post. I thought I could get this girl back on my own over the past weeks but every time I walk in the room she's a little more beat up. Help please.

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3rd Monkey

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Is there 2 plants in there?

I see nice fan leaves at the bottom that appear to be from another plant.

Just checking.
 

troutfarm

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Is there 2 plants in there?

I see nice fan leaves at the bottom that appear to be from another plant.

Just checking.
The bigger plant with the damage is one single plant, but yes, the bottom right side has a bit of another plant in the frame that has healthier leaves.
 

3rd Monkey

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Well, the only thing you can do is stay the course in my opinion.

The roots are damaged. Depending on how much you flushed and how often, since the ph was way off, could be rot.

Just keep your ph up and keep it fed.

This is just my opinion.
 

Chip Green

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Your actual soil PH is most likely in the low 5 range, possibly lower.
Runoff pH is very misleading in soil, will not give an accurate representation of the pH of the media.
 

Blitz35

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Those necrotic spots will stay that way..it does appear that the green 'came back' to the leaves, rather than being in the process of leaving. You're close to the finish line, buds look nice, keep your feed up and ph steady in that 6.2ish range. Do you know how many ppm's you were feeding during all this? Do you use tap water? Seems to have been calcium, magnesium and phosphorus that went missing.
 

Blitz35

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Your actual soil PH is most likely in the low 5 range, possibly lower.
Runoff pH is very misleading in soil, will not give an accurate representation of the pH of the media.
I would find that hard to believe! ffof comes with ammendments, a few waterings of lower ph'd water..would not suddenly turn the entire medium into a bottle of coke:) The same way you have to flush with about 3 times the volume of your medium to correct ph/toxicity issues..you'd need to dump a whole lot of sulfates, and/or aluminum to get the ph to stay down at 5. The ph close to the roots, doesn't change drastically...hence why runoff is not very telling in what's happening by the roots.
 

CannaCountry

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I have to agree with Blitz....stay the course. You're too far along to do anything but that. Use this grow as a learning experience and apply the lessons to your next go round. For sure though you missed out on Ca, Mg and K...perhaps as a result of the goofy pH, perhaps not.

Good luck.
 

3rd Monkey

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@Chip Green

Once again, I wanted the runoff ph (that is what I asked for) to see salt buildup. Tiger bloom and grow big will lower ph.

When OP flushes, if there was salt accumulation, it would have shown in the runoff as it washed the salts from the roots.

I don't care about the medium ph because there is nothing that can be done with that at this stage in the game.
 
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