The trichomes are cloudy, i am on day 63 of flower, ebb and flow + 600 watt light. When i look at the trichomes through my little scope (Radio Shack) the smaller particles that lay below the trichomes (if that makes any sense to you) are all amber, I am looking for a non-couchlock high is it ok to harvest?
Trichomes cloudy time to harvest?
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Xare
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There are 3 types of Trichomes if i remember right.
The stalked Trichome, another kind that makes more then one trichome head per stalk and the last kind that lays right on the leaf with no stalk.
So what you are seeing on the leaf are Amber Non-stalked Trichome heads.
I agree with above poster, go ahead and Harvest.
The stalked Trichome, another kind that makes more then one trichome head per stalk and the last kind that lays right on the leaf with no stalk.
So what you are seeing on the leaf are Amber Non-stalked Trichome heads.
I agree with above poster, go ahead and Harvest.
The trichomes is what i will refer to them as, on the leafs surface ( To avoid any confusion, i realize the trichomes with the heads on them are also on the leafs surface, which i can see clearly ) However the ones below the trichomes with heads on them are actually to small to see a pronounced head on them, as apposed to the larger trichomes that acutally have heads on them. I am using a 100x scope
Old in the Way
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If the trichs with a head on the stalk are cloudy....particularly if the head itself is vcloudy and none of these heads are starting to go amber you may want to wait.
I look for a heavy couchlock from my skunk and harvest when all heads are cloudy (none clear, none amber). And this creates a heavy heavy couchlock stone......not a high at all.....just my opinion
Contrary to this....I let the heads start to go amber on an African Sativa that I have going and it provides a nice sativa "up" high.....which some seem to prefer.......I guess they need to function during the day
Hate it for them
-OitW
I look for a heavy couchlock from my skunk and harvest when all heads are cloudy (none clear, none amber). And this creates a heavy heavy couchlock stone......not a high at all.....just my opinion
Contrary to this....I let the heads start to go amber on an African Sativa that I have going and it provides a nice sativa "up" high.....which some seem to prefer.......I guess they need to function during the day
Hate it for them
-OitW
smokeybandit22
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another opinion to harvest. the trichs on the leaf without the stalked heads are not really relevant in determining ripeness as most trichs will age with age and generally these are some of the earliest forming trichs. so naturally these would be amber first. but the thc content of the glands is lower than that of the stalked variety. if u r looking for heady high, than go for it. the more ambers you see on the stalked glands the more the thc has degenerated to other cannabanoids that contribute to the couchlike. Personally, I like 20% clear and rest cloudy with few ambers if at all. take a test nug from the middle of the plant, quick dry it for a day and judge for yourself. Remember the high will not likely be as intense or long lasting due to not being properly dried and cured. I will dig out a cool read on trichs in a minute.
smokeybandit22
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exceprt from an interesting read- here is link for whole article: http://www.gardenscure.com/420/harvesting-drying-storage/83247-trichomes-process-turning-amber.html
“ Returning to the more orthodox version of the cannabinoid biosynthesis, the role of ultraviolet light should be reemphasized. It seems apparent that ultraviolet light, normally supplied in abundance by sunlight, takes part in the conversion of CBD acid to THC acids. Therefore, the lack *Carlton Thrner 1979: personal communication. of ultraviolet light in indoor growing situations could account for the limited psychoactivity of Cannabis grown under artificial lights. Light energy has been collected and utilized by the plant in a long series of reactions resulting in the formation of THC acids. Farther along the pathway begins the formation of degradation products not metabolically produced by the living plant. These cannabinoid acids are formed through the progressive degradation of THC acids to CBN acid (cannabinolic acid) and other cannabinoid acids. The degradation is accomplished primarily by heat and light and is not enzymatically controlled by the plant. CBN is also suspected of synergistic modification of the psychoactivity of the primary cannabinoids, THCs. The cannabinoid balance between CBC, CBD, THC, and CBN is determined by genetics and maturation. THC production is an ongoing process as long as the glandular trichome remains active. Variations in the level of THC in the same trichome as it matures are the result of THC acid being broken down to CBN acid while CBD acid is being converted to THC acid. If the rate of THC biosynthesis exceeds the rate of THC breakdown, the THC level in the trichome rises; if the breakdown rate is faster than the rate of biosynthesis, the THC level drops. Clear or slightly amber transparent resin is a sign that the glandular trichome is still active. As soon as resin secretion begins to slow, the resins will usually polymerize and harden. During the late floral stages the resin tends to darken to a transparent amber color. If it begins to deteriorate, it first turns translucent and then opaque brown or white. Near-freezing temperatures during maturation will often result in opaque white resins. During active secretion, THC acids are constantly being formed from CBD acid and breaking down into CBN acid. “
If I was going to break all this down into a few sentences it would read like this:
The resin gland produces cannabinoids that are converted into THC. During the active cycle of cannabinoid production the glands will appear clear or cloudy. As the plant matures and the production cycle slows the glands will change color to amber. This is caused from environmental influences, tempeture and light. The major influence on the amber color would be the lack of conversion from cannabinoids CBD and CBN into THC. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, my theroy is as the plant matures it slows in cannabinoid production and the UVB radition has less cannabinoids to convert and starts to degrade the resin - hense the color change.
“ Returning to the more orthodox version of the cannabinoid biosynthesis, the role of ultraviolet light should be reemphasized. It seems apparent that ultraviolet light, normally supplied in abundance by sunlight, takes part in the conversion of CBD acid to THC acids. Therefore, the lack *Carlton Thrner 1979: personal communication. of ultraviolet light in indoor growing situations could account for the limited psychoactivity of Cannabis grown under artificial lights. Light energy has been collected and utilized by the plant in a long series of reactions resulting in the formation of THC acids. Farther along the pathway begins the formation of degradation products not metabolically produced by the living plant. These cannabinoid acids are formed through the progressive degradation of THC acids to CBN acid (cannabinolic acid) and other cannabinoid acids. The degradation is accomplished primarily by heat and light and is not enzymatically controlled by the plant. CBN is also suspected of synergistic modification of the psychoactivity of the primary cannabinoids, THCs. The cannabinoid balance between CBC, CBD, THC, and CBN is determined by genetics and maturation. THC production is an ongoing process as long as the glandular trichome remains active. Variations in the level of THC in the same trichome as it matures are the result of THC acid being broken down to CBN acid while CBD acid is being converted to THC acid. If the rate of THC biosynthesis exceeds the rate of THC breakdown, the THC level in the trichome rises; if the breakdown rate is faster than the rate of biosynthesis, the THC level drops. Clear or slightly amber transparent resin is a sign that the glandular trichome is still active. As soon as resin secretion begins to slow, the resins will usually polymerize and harden. During the late floral stages the resin tends to darken to a transparent amber color. If it begins to deteriorate, it first turns translucent and then opaque brown or white. Near-freezing temperatures during maturation will often result in opaque white resins. During active secretion, THC acids are constantly being formed from CBD acid and breaking down into CBN acid. “
If I was going to break all this down into a few sentences it would read like this:
The resin gland produces cannabinoids that are converted into THC. During the active cycle of cannabinoid production the glands will appear clear or cloudy. As the plant matures and the production cycle slows the glands will change color to amber. This is caused from environmental influences, tempeture and light. The major influence on the amber color would be the lack of conversion from cannabinoids CBD and CBN into THC. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, my theroy is as the plant matures it slows in cannabinoid production and the UVB radition has less cannabinoids to convert and starts to degrade the resin - hense the color change.
Old in the Way
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amber means they are ripe. a ripe sativa with amber trichs will NOT be a couchlock high. a coughlock high will be an indica. STOP harvesting early. thank you.
Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see fdd pass along the same info
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