Trichomes and your thoughts - is it legit?

Thundercat said:

Phenotypes can show in every aspect of a plant. Leaf characteristics, grow rates and patterns, flavor, smell, cannabinoid content, disease and/mold resistance, clonability, finishing time……….

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Wouldn't smell and cannabinoid content be a chemotype...I'm seriously asking

Trykes rule on this hill, I am not even aware of what most breeders say the flower time is. When tricks start to go ambe4 quickly and the plant slows water uptake we go whacking!
More than half I grow are my own chucks also.

Redlig said:

Wouldn't smell and cannabinoid content be a chemotype...I'm seriously asking

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Yes that would definitely be a more detailed label, however “chemotype” can simply be defined as the “chemical phenotype” of the plant, so I wouldn’t feel to bad lumping them. It can change just like the physical characteristics based on environment.

I’ve watched the exact same cuts get grown in multiple gardens at the same time and the plants grow very differently. They all were the same genotype, but expressed different phenotypes and chemotypes depending the grow conditions.

I am going to try let this grow (4th ever) go a bit longer than previous ones. I keep thinking its ready but in reality i think they could go another two or so weeks. This 4th grow i have the flowers are big dense golf balls.... this is the first time the flowers have felt this dense.

But i have a question.... ive noticed when i dry out my flowers over a week or so that they lose almost all their weight.. how do i get denser buds or is it dependent on strain? because this 4th plant i have seems to be bigger than any previous. Im so scared of drying it out and ill get the same result. im not sure what ive done different with this plant so im guessing it is more or less about genetics.....

but there has to be a way to fatten up buds that wouldnt be big otherwise?

...... thinking about it i may have added more P/K at an earlier stage with this 4th plant... is that the trick?

Thundercat said:

Yes that would definitely be a more detailed label, however “chemotype” can simply be defined as the “chemical phenotype” of the plant, so I wouldn’t feel to bad lumping them. It can change just like the physical characteristics based on environment.

I’ve watched the exact same cuts get grown in multiple gardens at the same time and the plants grow very differently. They all were the same genotype, but expressed different phenotypes and chemotypes depending the grow conditions.

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Ahhhhh gotcha. It's cool to see how different they can be. In one garden vrs another. Also in different mediums aswell.

I've been inspired lol I'm going to let mine go as long as I can stand it aswell

Redlig said:

Ahhhhh gotcha. It's cool to see how different they can be. In one garden vrs another. Also in different mediums aswell.

I've been inspired lol I'm going to let mine go as long as I can stand it aswell

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I’m on day 86 and it looks like I got a ways to go, it’s been a long haul but looking forward to it. There is so little progression in this stage it’s a real test of patience

Little_Hobo said:

I am going to try let this grow (4th ever) go a bit longer than previous ones. I keep thinking its ready but in reality i think they could go another two or so weeks. This 4th grow i have the flowers are big dense golf balls.... this is the first time the flowers have felt this dense.

But i have a question.... ive noticed when i dry out my flowers over a week or so that they lose almost all their weight.. how do i get denser buds or is it dependent on strain? because this 4th plant i have seems to be bigger than any previous. Im so scared of drying it out and ill get the same result. im not sure what ive done different with this plant so im guessing it is more or less about genetics.....

but there has to be a way to fatten up buds that wouldnt be big otherwise?

...... thinking about it i may have added more P/K at an earlier stage with this 4th plant... is that the trick?

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How strong is your lighting? Area and wattage?

Have to look at my past orders here to get what i bought...

80 x 80 x 160cm tent - i had been using a smaller one my brother had sitting around, and my first grow was actually a fabric wardrobe i made myself which turned out okay but i needed to be able to control the big swings in temp from night to day. I use the smaller tent now to dry.

First light i bought was

''BOSYTRO LED Grow Light 1000W with Samsung LM281B LEDs and Dimming Driver Dimmable Full Spectrum Growing Lamp for Hydroponics Indoor Plant from Seedlin''

Ran that for the first two then had a photo and auto going at the same time so i needed another light so i bought:

FECiDA 1000W Dimmable LED Grow Light, 2021 Newest Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Seedling Veg Flower Growing Lamps with 588PCS LEDs & Do

Now im just doing autos i have them in the same tent. So im hoping thats enough light now with them combined...

i know they are never what they say in the tin.. but i read reviews and did quite a lot of digging and i think theyre okay for beginner lights. id quite like a spider farmer next. They seem to be a good choice

Some pics of my grows

My first grow is further on back in pics to find. I might make a new post to track my goings on. Oh i have a strip light too of just reds and blues*. Doubt its very powerful but it gives me a little blurple. Those three to the left in the first pic are my next adventures.

Looks good

If they are both drawing 100W it should be good to grow

Bignutes said:

I’ve read all sorts of info on get a jewelers loupe and look at your trichomes. I’ve over the years have been looking at them and seeing if it’s legit and so far I’m not impressed.

I’ve been keeping track and for example Cbd shark - trichomes cloudy like opaque plastic very early in flower, no amber, Blueberry had lots of clear for a long time, Cbd Blue Shark had lots of amber early on, Cbd Spliff Berry was a mix of amber and cloudy and waited till amber and the end result was junk as compared to earlier on. The North Thunderfuck is all cloudy early. Dolato a mix of cloudy and amber.

My point is this trichome thing seems to be way overinflated. I think I’m done with it, it’s all over the map. Im going to just add two weeks to the day of flip start the breeders number of weeks and if they sorta check the ripe boxes of majority orange pistils, swollen calyxes it’s chop chop time.

Any thoughts?

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I cut my teeth growing outdoors 25 yrs ago. My luck far exceeded my skills at the time but I’d rather be lucky than good. Anyway, I’m not sure I knew what a trichome was back then. The old timer that taught me the outdoor grow def didn’t know and he damned sure didn’t carry around a jewelers loupe in the pocket of his bibbed overalls. He was a celebrity in a small circle of enthusiasts and never failed to impress when fall rolled around.
I followed his advice to a tee, and the results were perfect. Now we grew the same strain for the most part and I’m sure there are other varieties that behave a little differently…..but we would never pull a plant that was still flowering out white hairs. Let them finish doing all that and you’ll generally have a couple waves of those white pistils. Your calyces will swell and the entire bud will swell up. Once there are no new white hairs coming and the older ones have either turned and/or receded, the bud is ripe on the outside. The old timer held steadfast that once it looked ripe to give it another week to get ripe on the inside…..now I’m sure that’s some old man science but it prevents bud being picked too early…and there is nothing worse than growing a beautiful plant for months and whacking it before it’s ripe.
Let the plant ripen and then have a look at your trichs. Once it’s ripe you have a window that you can play with. Some plants will have mostly cloudy trichs way way before it’s ripe…and those trichs will generally stay that way until it’s ripe. Believe me, a plant is not going to have a degraded majority of amber trichs before it ripens.
New growers are putting the cart before the horse with harvesting…..by looking at trichs on immature buds.
You cannot and should not try to turn an indica into a sativa by chopping it early…..just grow a sativa if that’s what you like.

Im interested to see what happens when i go a little longer on this next plant. The buds already look a great structure. I hear its a mistake almost all new growers make and i think ive fallen into it myself, even after reading a million stories on not to do it... But i feel in my gut this is going to be my first successful grow. Although the stuff i have curing at the minute tastes really nice too, it could have been more structured.

Its easy to get hooked on all this isnt it. Very much like learning a new instrument.. the more you get it the more buzzed you get literally

Bignutes said:

I’m on day 86 and it looks like I got a ways to go, it’s been a long haul but looking forward to it. There is so little progression in this stage it’s a real test of patience

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I Flipped mine on December 5th so I'm a ways away.

I ran a 10-11 week plant 20 weeks just to see.

honestly not a whole lot different from 12 weeks. I notice a difference harvesting at week 8, week 10, and slightly less at 12. Past that it’s pretty much the same based off my one plant of one strain experiment.

A.k.a said:

I ran a 10-11 week plant 20 weeks just to see.

honestly not a whole lot different from 12 weeks. I notice a difference harvesting at week 8, week 10, and slightly less at 12. Past that it’s pretty much the same based off my one plant of one strain experiment.

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Seems very scientific.

Peer reviewed by Dr Broseph Broski

A.k.a said:

Peer reviewed by Dr Broseph Broski

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Nice! He's very popular on this site.

Bignutes said:

I look over at grow diaries and see my strains and they look unfinished many times, they harvest a lot of white pistol plants. My conditions are pretty good, but I may have lengthened my grow time by initiating flower at 13.5 hours, I put it at 12 hours about 3 weeks back or so and now at 11. Next time it’s 12 right off the hop. There’s a lot of hype regarding chitin and speeding up the grow cycle but I tried it and didn’t see much difference

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I go right to 11.5 hrs., I've read somewhere to shutoff lights for 24 hrs. before transitioning to 12 hr. to kickstart the flower cycle.