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Hydro4life

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Bro, you are ABSOLUTELY right..especially for this about clones..my main problem is that i have different phenos from the same seeds almost every time..with the clone method this problem is solved..but i dont make a mother cause i set 4 plants in a m2 tent and the cost for the seeds is lower than the cost for making a mother,also i run 2 crops per year..for personal use..so the ''mother method'' :p is lil bit more expensive for my situation..but would definetely do it if i run more plants..
Yeah true! Makes sense to me! I'm currently half way through my 1st real sog lol. 18 plants under a 600w, 1sqm ish. And have 3 different strains with different phenos. And what a pain haha. How long did you veg for (if any and defoliate/lollipop at all?) Good to hear another perspective from someone with a brain haha.
 

EL Connoisseur

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Thanks for kind words bro..
Well, i run 4 plants 20lt pots(~6 gallons) and i veg them for 4 - 4.5 weeks..i top them once above the 4th node..i bend them and get 8 colas from each plant..i clear the 1st 1/3 of them 4-5 days before switching..after this i DONT touch it till day 20..at this day, i clear the 1st 1/4 of the plant and, i defoliate the hell out..i take ALL the fan leaves WITH STEMS..so i give it 2 days till day 22 to recover and start powerfully the bud production process with perfect light penetration and airflow..after this i dont touch them till harvest, unless if a fanleaf covers another head when i take this leaf's life ;p..easy, fast, great yields(quality and quantity), with a lil bit of money for seeds..also this run i run 690w HPS2000k(with super lumens) + 270true watts LED(blue+UV spectrum) as supplement for the quality and maybe quantity also..thats all bro..!Easy and clean.!:bigjoint:
 

Hydro4life

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Nice! Yep I've grown an 8 cola plant outdoors (that incredible bulk strain) yielded well. Above average quality 4 sure. its very hard to do in your circumstance and again growing from seed but have you tried growing a bunch of single cola plants crammed together and vegged for like 5 to 7 days?? I have 18 in a sq metre with 1 week veg and their surprisingly big 4 weeks in2 flower! I can see huge potential with this method. Nothin but a sea of main colas!! Big yield, best quality, fast grow! I would throw up a photo but am very low key lol. (And itl probably take me an hour to figure out how haha)
 

Rainbow Warrior

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Thanks for kind words bro..
Well, i run 4 plants 20lt pots(~6 gallons) and i veg them for 4 - 4.5 weeks..i top them once above the 4th node..i bend them and get 8 colas from each plant..i clear the 1st 1/3 of them 4-5 days before switching..after this i DONT touch it till day 20..at this day, i clear the 1st 1/4 of the plant and, i defoliate the hell out..i take ALL the fan leaves WITH STEMS..so i give it 2 days till day 22 to recover and start powerfully the bud production process with perfect light penetration and airflow..after this i dont touch them till harvest, unless if a fanleaf covers another head when i take this leaf's life ;p..easy, fast, great yields(quality and quantity), with a lil bit of money for seeds..also this run i run 690w HPS2000k(with super lumens) + 270true watts LED(blue+UV spectrum) as supplement for the quality and maybe quantity also..thats all bro..!Easy and clean.!:bigjoint:
Thanks for all the advice!

Now I read your preference regards to SoG-I’m not so sure about scrogging, especially as the veg time is longer; could I run Two satties in One m2?
Is the four/five weeks from seed or from sprouting or from topping? Same veg time for Sativas?
Soz my stupidity-do you defoliate befor switching to 12/12 or after?

RW
:peace:
 

EL Connoisseur

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Your method is definitely the best..but i cant give this money for the seeds..this is my only problem..if i can in the future this will be ofc my first option..by the way i do it..i try to simulate your way..but personally i would give them 2 weeks..i think one is a lil tricky ;p
 

EL Connoisseur

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Thanks for all the advice!

Now I read your preference regards to SoG-I’m not so sure about scrogging, especially as the veg time is longer; could I run Two satties in One m2?
Is the four/five weeks from seed or from sprouting or from topping? Same veg time for Sativas?
Soz my stupidity-do you defoliate befor switching to 12/12 or after?

RW
:peace:
No problem dude, i personally run only indica/indica hybrid but i can help you with sativas also i think..better run 4 plants for better destribution.. you start counting from the sprouting day..the veg time is the same to let it mature enough..unless if u run more plants in the same canopy like Hydro4Life said..i dont def before flowering..i just clean the 1st 1/3 of the plant..i do exactly what i wrote above for the def and lollipop..over there is everything you will need..
 
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Hydro4life

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Your method is definitely the best..but i cant give this money for the seeds..this is my only problem..if i can in the future this will be ofc my first option..by the way i do it..i try to simulate your way..but personally i would give them 2 weeks..i think one is a lil tricky ;p
Yes would be expensive buying and doing sog by seed.... I grow in Dwc so veg is very fast (Especially if taken from big, healthy clones) with one week veg their over knee height with moderate to close node spacing. I was very surprised with how big they got as I've always vegged for 3 weeks minimum. I'll be harvesting a couple of Sqm scrog soon. I'll let you know final yield and will be interesting to compare with the sog that is 4 weeks into flower!
 

EL Connoisseur

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Yes would be expensive buying and doing sog by seed.... I grow in Dwc so veg is very fast (Especially if taken from big, healthy clones) with one week veg their over knee height with moderate to close node spacing. I was very surprised with how big they got as I've always vegged for 3 weeks minimum. I'll be harvesting a couple of Sqm scrog soon. I'll let you know final yield and will be interesting to compare with the sog that is 4 weeks into flower!
Oh yeah ofc..i am interested in it..atm i cant take pics cause i smashed my smartphone but after some days i ll take some photos and upload them here to share the progress of this run..and the Rainbow Warrior will have more info about how he wants to do the job..i am also interested in seeing your sog..i really LOVE this method bro!Cheers!:clap::clap::clap:
 

Rainbow Warrior

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No problem dude, i personally run only indica/indica hybrid but i can help you with sativas also i think..better run 4 plants for better destribution.. you start counting from the sprouting day..the veg time is the same to let it mature enough..unless if u run more plants in the same canopy like Hydro4Life said..i dont def before flowering..i just clean the 1st 1/3 of the plant..i do exactly what i wrote above for the def and lollipop..over there is everything you will need..
Cheers man, I let u know how I get on...
:weed:

RW:peace:
 

Hydro4life

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Oh yeah ofc..i am interested in it..atm i cant take pics cause i smashed my smartphone but after some days i ll take some photos and upload them here to share the progress of this run..and the Rainbow Warrior will have more info about how he wants to do the job..i am also interested in seeing your sog..i really LOVE this method bro!Cheers!:clap::clap::clap:
Look foward to it man!!
 

Rainbow Warrior

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:peace:
Oh yeah ofc..i am interested in it..atm i cant take pics cause i smashed my smartphone but after some days i ll take some photos and upload them here to share the progress of this run..and the Rainbow Warrior will have more info about how he wants to do the job..i am also interested in seeing your sog..i really LOVE this method bro!Cheers!:clap::clap::clap:
Will let u guys know progress & yield.
I know it’s probably stupid, but I’ve been reading a lot about biodynamic gardening; decided to give it a go. If the experts are correct then my girlies should be extra strong and big, u never know...
Watch this space! Hope I won’t have to eat my words

RW
:peace:
 

Hydro4life

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:peace:

Will let u guys know progress & yield.
I know it’s probably stupid, but I’ve been reading a lot about biodynamic gardening; decided to give it a go. If the experts are correct then my girlies should be extra strong and big, u never know...
Watch this space! Hope I won’t have to eat my words

RW
:peace:
That's what it's all about rainbow warrior! Experimenting and trying new things...... sky's the limit brother!!
 

EL Connoisseur

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:peace:

Will let u guys know progress & yield.
I know it’s probably stupid, but I’ve been reading a lot about biodynamic gardening; decided to give it a go. If the experts are correct then my girlies should be extra strong and big, u never know...
Watch this space! Hope I won’t have to eat my words

RW
:peace:
ye bro..let us know about this biodynamic..i personally hear it for 1st time!
 

Rainbow Warrior

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ye bro..let us know about this biodynamic..i personally hear it for 1st time!
Been using this method for growing normal veg(the leagal kind ;-) For a couple of years now and compared it to the „Chuck it in the ground and see what happens“ method; definitely got more tomatoes and carrots that way; see how I get on with Mary Janes...

https://www.marijuana.com/news/2016/05/grow-guide-biodynamic-gardening/

I catch up with u guys in a few weeks...

Again, thanks for the advice & help dudes

Have a good one and keep on blazing!

RW
:peace:
 

EL Connoisseur

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Been using this method for growing normal veg(the leagal kind ;-) For a couple of years now and compared it to the „Chuck it in the ground and see what happens“ method; definitely got more tomatoes and carrots that way; see how I get on with Mary Janes...

https://www.marijuana.com/news/2016/05/grow-guide-biodynamic-gardening/

I catch up with u guys in a few weeks...

Again, thanks for the advice & help dudes

Have a good one and keep on blazing!

RW
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No problem bro..this king of growing is reaaaally interesting...i read this article..it makes my interested in learning this,,even if i wont run it..cause i grow only indoors for personal purposes..but thank you bro! Keep us informed if you can dude..i cant w8 to see the progress..
Good luck man!:clap::clap::clap:
 

Rainbow Warrior

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No problem bro..this king of growing is reaaaally interesting...i read this article..it makes my interested in learning this,,even if i wont run it..cause i grow only indoors for personal purposes..but thank you bro! Keep us informed if you can dude..i cant w8 to see the progress..
Good luck man!:clap::clap::clap:
Thanks; hope it works as I expect; if not I just have to resort to the old days and start scoring again....:eyesmoke:

RW
:peace:
 
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