Tobacco alternatives

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Lionbear

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Hey guys. I smoke pot but I don't use tobacco. I usually use lotus mixed with chacruna and other entheogens mixed together to make some trippy mix. A little tobacco is used for burn however not a lot is used.

So my question is. What do you guys use when you have no tobacco??:peace:
 
is the reason people mix weed with tobaco to take the harshness away from it? if it was dried to fast or not flushed properly?
 
we do it because it's what our culture does. it's nothing to do with taste or strength. tobacco allows the joint to burn propperly, stay lit, personally i find that joints with the perfect aount of tobacco kicks the arse of a pure weed joint. tobacco also allows you to spread your weed out into more smokes and have them last a bit longer. cannabis is VERY expensive for the amount you get in the UK 99% of the time
 
That was the one way to tell Americans while in Amsterdam: huge pure weed doobies. Not to stereotype, but tip top said it essentially, but Europeans smoke spliffs, which are different from American spliffs. Their terminology for roach is different as well. Where we take a hit and pass it, they hold on to it for a few puffs and then pass it. Completely different mentality. Anyway, for some reason they think it's crazy to smoke that much weed and that it's too harsh.

I have come across a few American tokers, though not many, that use tobacco in their bong hits. They call em "rippers."

Dude, don't pollute our bud!!! Keep tobacco out. If the weed is to harsh, try a bong. They come in all sizes.

But I find nothing better than just a nice bowl of nuttin but bud. I think we need to spread the word.
 
good points there.

it's got nothing to do with the harshness for me, it's just a smoother more enjoyable smoke from a rizzla. if i'm using glassware or pipes etc, as you say, nothing but pure weed every time, i'd never contemplate making a weed abccy mix to stick in my bowl.

and pollution, contamination etc, as people like to call it, well it's perfectly subjective. would you class JD and coke as a polluted drink? same thing kinda.

random thought though, if it's such a contaminant etc, then surely but a handful of americans would therefore smoke blunts? but this is definately not the case.
 
other than the tobacco wrap? that is my question.

why is rolling up a rizzla with a little bit of tobacco inside it, we're not talking a handful, we're talking a small pinch, such a shunned frowned upon "wtf are you doing???!???" action, yet placing your weed inside of a thick tobacco wrapper and smoking it is perfectly acceptable?

it confuses me. they are both the same thing really at the end of the day other than size. why not just put all your weed into a rizzla without baccy, why a blunt?
 
i use white owls or dutch cigars. i hate those cheap ass wraps they fall apart to easy. i love white owls cause they don't add any shit to a cigar wrapper they do with tobacco that's why i don't do it but to each his own. I'm not saying its wrong i'm just saying its not for me.
 
it just seems so hypocritical to me.

they are both tobacco products, both will have brands and varients that are better or worse, both user bases will use a wide variety, from horrible chemical ridden sterling straights, to golden virginia, to small local producers, likewise from white owls to platinum wraps etc. so to me smoking with tobacco is either acceptable, or it is unacceptable, the unacceptable side being based on a general sterotype that all tobacco smoked in joints is cherical and nasty, in which case the same must be applied to blunts, in that they are all cheap chemical and nasty.

yet one seems to be massively criticised, the other adored, sounds kinda fucky to me.

this isn't a rant against you btw SS, seems like you have good appreciation and acceptance for other methods and and such :)
 
no it's all good. there is no nicotine, tar, and other chemicals out side side a cigar case. they uses small amounts of tobacco in the paper for whit owls and for dutchies they use a hole leaf and paper no added shit there, but there is in most tobacco in the US so that's why like i said to each there own
 
when Americans talk about adding tobacco to their joint, are they referring to fresh hand rolling tobacco, or tobacco treated to sit on a shelf for 12 months and still be smokable aka straights?
 
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