natrone23
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lol what about the first debate, where were those tele-promtors?
To: Palin fans, From: Your demise
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ViRedd
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Yes, Fox is biased toward McCain/Palin ... but what about the other TV stations? Did you see O'Bama on The View, then compare the way he was treated when McCain was on? How about the Sunday morning shows ... Face the Nation and Meet the Press? They are so one-sided toward O'Bama, it isn't funny. Then there's Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, SNL, Letterman, Leno, Newsweek, Time, People, NY Times, NY Post ... and on and on and on and on ....
All I'm saying is ... don't believe everything you read or hear from the MSM. Remember the Reagan/Mondale race? It was the same thing coming from the media ... "Mondale way ahead in the polls." Reagan won in a landslide and carried 49 states.
I just can't believe that the American people are ready for a congress and senate made up of hard-core lefties and an executive branch run by a Marxist president. WTF ... this isn't Venezuela, fer cryin' out loud.
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Stoney McFried
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In my post, I stated, depends on what station you watch, lol.I don't remember the reagan race, I think I was 2 or 3 at the time.But I think Obama will win, and I hope so.Because I don't want another term of Bush.And I don't want creationism pushed into my schools, or choice taken away from women.Not that they could accomplish this(Mccain/Palin)but you never know.
imtylerdammit
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i think everyone knows that mccain is just so OLD and EVIL that putting him in the oval office, with the codes(he will definatly forget), with the connections(Life Alert around his neck) and with young his nurse(palin), it means almost certain death.
no question about it mccain/palin is a losing ticket. there campaign is taking a shit nap. they have no chance. its over.
Obama/Biden '08
no question about it mccain/palin is a losing ticket. there campaign is taking a shit nap. they have no chance. its over.
Obama/Biden '08
Stoney McFried
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Lmao...his nurse.Well, she is skilled in diaper changing.
natrone23
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Vi the reason you think everybody is pinko leftists, marxist ect is because you are so out of touch with mainstream america. your so far right you don't even know where the center is. But thats why we have elections, you will see how wrong you are. There is going to be alot of young people coming out for this election
imtylerdammit
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im afraid that nat speaks the truth. young americans are getting involved more then ever and we all chant the same name. we all fight for the same cause. we all want to see the same two men in the white house.
and im sure we all want to see mccain go back to the nursing home he spawned from.
and im sure we all want to see mccain go back to the nursing home he spawned from.
undertheice
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i insulted a friend of mine yesterday (yes, i do still have one or two friends that i haven't managed to completely alienate) by reminding him that we are both life-long liberals and that we hadn't necessarily abandoned our ideals, but that our ideals were no longer considered perverse enough to be worthy of much attention.
ViRedd
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undertheice
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i should probably qualify that statement by noting that i am an adherent of classical liberalism, not the sad attempts at totalitarianism that passes for liberalism these days.
ViRedd
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medicineman
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I don't know vi, I still like the dems program over the repukes. Help the people rather than the corporations. Something about that just sounds right, no left, well correct anyway. Since I am a people and have never owned a corporation, I guess that makes me prejudiced.
undertheice
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the problem with that way of thinking is that it denies that corporations are made up of people too, they aren't just amorphous creatures that exist in their own separate reality and feed off of the people. they employ people, they support and are largely controlled by people. their capital is provided by people and their profits are returned to those people. the major problem with the piss-down economic strategies of the conservatives is that they go too far in protecting business, they try to deny the very real possibilities of failure that are a part of the risks involved in success.
Only one problem, they (corporations) are practically not held accountable like people. If I remember correctly, there was a time when corporations had to be re-authorized on a yearly basis, depending the overall 'good' that they were providing for the people and the commons. Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong.
Bongulator
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That's a basic ideological difference between Republicans and Democrats. The whole trickle-down thing as compared to the bottom-up thing. I think the trickle-down theory doesn't work particularly well. We've tried it several times, and nothing ever seems to actually trickle down.
The bottom-up thing, I don't know if that's really been tried on a large scale. I do think it would work better. Why? Because the poor and middle-class *can't* just take extra money and throw it into the stock market or assets to gain value over the years, because they *have* no money that could be considered 'extra'. If they have money, it gets spent, and if they're spending it, that means someone -- a business -- is doing some selling. In other words, the trickle-UP effect is virtually guaranteed, whereas the trickle-down effect never actually materializes.
The bottom-up thing, I don't know if that's really been tried on a large scale. I do think it would work better. Why? Because the poor and middle-class *can't* just take extra money and throw it into the stock market or assets to gain value over the years, because they *have* no money that could be considered 'extra'. If they have money, it gets spent, and if they're spending it, that means someone -- a business -- is doing some selling. In other words, the trickle-UP effect is virtually guaranteed, whereas the trickle-down effect never actually materializes.
Man, I'm starting to like you!
Nice mind! I second you again.
Now I will stop stalking you,lol!
medicineman
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I agree that there are workers that benefit from the corporate existence, and I am not totally against corporations, just the way they are run. Them top dogs get way too much of the pie, and since they aren't really responsible for what they wrought, they basically do what makes them the most money, fuck responsibility. Come on now, allowing them to run wild over workers and the environment, cranking out job cuts and fucking over the environment, for the almighty bottom line. That is what I find reprehensible with capitalism, their almighty bottom line. hey it's allright to make a profit, but when it's at the expence of everything else, then it's no good. The basic premis of corporations is flawed.
4maggio
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When her religious sect start flying planes into buildings and beheading people,.. Then I'll worry about them. Untill then muslims have the spotlight.
Can't believe you (proverbial you) choose to ignore that fact <buildings/planes
Did you hear the speach by that freak from that church?! "not God bless America, God Damn America" .. maybe I'm mis-quoteing?
And why is it so hard to believe that men and dinosours existed at the same time.. you have someone tell you that they didn't.. first hand?
I'll say it again.. she's the only one that isn't a good ole boy...
I do want change.. I'm not up for BarryOs type of change...
Fun it is..
Bongulator
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People can multitask. Worry about *all* the religious nutjobs, including Palin. She's just the Christian version of the folks who flew the planes into the towers. She just hasn't put on a vest and gone to blow up a Planned Parenthood dispensary. Yet.