TIMBER GROW LIGHTS LOWERED PRICING

growingforfun said:

Another 25% and you'll become a viable option.. great product but the price makes it pretty unattractive when theres options that are so much cheaper for pretty much the same thing with minimal added effort...

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whytewidow said:

DIY has gotta be hard on sales for them.... if you know how to build a light. You can build their biggest light for a fraction of the price. Super nice lights. And they stand behind their warranty and product. But it's hard to pay someone else for their time. When essentially your own time is free to build one. But I'd say they sell enough to open. And are hopefully staying outta the red. Small businesses are what's needed to make America great again. Not some crazy bitch prez or some rich pussy grabbing mother fukr. We need businesses like timber, hlg, and whatnot to be successful. It helps the economy.

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whytewidow said:

DIY has gotta be hard on sales for them.... if you know how to build a light. You can build their biggest light for a fraction of the price. Super nice lights. And they stand behind their warranty and product. But it's hard to pay someone else for their time. When essentially your own time is free to build one. But I'd say they sell enough to stay open. And are hopefully staying outta the red. Small businesses are what's needed to make America great again. Not some crazy bitch prez or some rich pussy grabbing mother fukr. We need businesses like timber, hlg, and whatnot to be successful. It helps the economy.

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growingforfun said:

Your right, however I believe that's since they order the componates in bulk and such they really should charge less. I truly believe they could easily charge 25% less than current, aka 35% of former pricing and make enough for everyone to be paid well. Especially when they increase sale dramatically. Nobody wants to pay 1k for a light they can build for 500. But they may be willing to pay 650 for it. Especially when it costs timber 1/2 or less what we pay for parts due to bulk pricing.

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Renfro said:

I don't see a reason to whine. If someone can build the light cheaper, more power to them, If someone wants to buy a light and is willing to pay that price, more power to them. Also imagine them having to deal with warranty returns and customers that are dumb. Anytime you do business in retail there is a percentage of loss. A home builder doesn't have to contend with that.

If their business model is sustainable they will do well, it seems as their price point is dropping so perhaps they realize there is a discrepancy between what a product is worth and what they charge.

Personally I think LED lights are too costly for what they do and it will be 3 to 5 years before one can get a true 1kW DE HPS replacement for say $400 bucks and it only uses say 500 watts or less. Until then it's a DIY heaven, but that doesn't work for commercial because they need UL listed fixtures and lots of them.

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Renfro said:

I don't see a reason to whine. If someone can build the light cheaper, more power to them, If someone wants to buy a light and is willing to pay that price, more power to them. Also imagine them having to deal with warranty returns and customers that are dumb. Anytime you do business in retail there is a percentage of loss. A home builder doesn't have to contend with that.

If their business model is sustainable they will do well, it seems as their price point is dropping so perhaps they realize there is a discrepancy between what a product is worth and what they charge.

Personally I think LED lights are too costly for what they do and it will be 3 to 5 years before one can get a true 1kW DE HPS replacement for say $400 bucks and it only uses say 500 watts or less. Until then it's a DIY heaven, but that doesn't work for commercial because they need UL listed fixtures and lots of them.

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whytewidow said:

My 660w diy will eat 1khps every single time. So I'm not sure why you think leds wont replace 1khps yet. Theres plenty of grows on here other forums of leds rockn hps by far.

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Renfro said:

I didnt say they can't compete performance wise, it's the cost that has yet to come down. When someone can buy a UL Listed IP68 fixture for a price thats closer to a DE HPS... Say 600 bucks for a LED that replaces a 1kW DE HPS. It's about price point for initial investment. Watch how fast HPS becomes obsolete when that price point is hit.

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Renfro said:

I didnt say they can't compete performance wise, it's the cost that has yet to come down. When someone can buy a UL Listed IP68 fixture for a price thats closer to a DE HPS... Say 600 bucks for a LED that replaces a 1kW DE HPS. It's about price point for initial investment. Watch how fast HPS becomes obsolete when that price point is hit.

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