Thoughts about my first plant?

Azam114 said:

FFOF ocean forrest.
Hydroflora trio and cal mag using the charts on their website.

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Azam114 said:

Okay so I’ll wait 2 or 3 days to water them without feeding them. But when should I start feeding them back? Especially they’re in flowering stage I presume. bloom is tempting but I’ll hold off.
so from now day 30 til 45 no feeding? How about rh? Must be high as mentioned? I’ll adjust temp to 28c.

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Cinco said:

You are feeding way, way too frequently, there’s no way FFOF dries down in a day with those size plants. That’s why they are droopy and small for their age. Being constantly wet kills root growth.

Those plants are also too young to be feeding... there’s nitrogen clawing on the leaves, and they are dark green. That’s because you have been adding fertilizer to already hot soil. I don’t use FFOF, but I hear others advise it does not need any additional nutrients until 30-45 days out.

You need to water less frequently, to more runoff, and you don’t need to add anything but water for the next several waterings.

I guess you didn’t ask for help, but that plant needs a bit.

You may not get a ton of yield out of this one but the next round will go much better. Your lighting is great, your environment needs some more control. The RH and temp are a bit low, especially for LEDs, move to 28-29c and 70-75% for veg if you can and the plant will boom.

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Azam114 said:

Could you please confirm if yes i'm in flower stage. My research says Rh goes down through age of the plant. I understand this one has flaws does that mean I must raise Rh? You mentioned Rh and temp but said for veg. You consider this a veg state? week 5 and I think other here mentioned it's flowering.

Could you please let me know which Rh and temp I should have now on week 5 and week 6 as I will be watering without feeding.

I just want to briefly say adjusting from the usual flowering stage 40% to 75% rh, I guess that would help in my Nitrogen toxicity especially that i'm also over watering. correct?

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Cinco said:

Yes, this is in flower, but barely. I’m saying you should run high humidity and temps through veg, and your plant would be much bigger than this. I’m giving that advice more toward your next run, however... you can still safely run high humidity for the next many weeks. I’d run recommended temps until the buds start to mature and get fat, and then drop the humidity only below 40% in the last week or two to prevent mildew and bud rot. You’re nowhere close to that. You have at least 4-6 weeks before you get to the end stage.

Now may be a good time to learn about VPD. Here’s a chart that’s as good as any.

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My advice is to keep it in these RH ranges with a temp between 28-30c, so 70-80% RH. In the last few weeks, ignore the chart, and park the RH as low as you reasonably can without plummeting temps.

The reason for this is that high temps and humidity mean rapid growth, and higher-than-average temps work great with LED for reasons related to spectrum. However, the last few weeks of flower are the most dangerous for a new grower, so during that time I recommend dropping RH purely for safety. It sucks to lose your first crop to rot.

If had a few grows under your belt, my recommendation would actually be to stay in 1.0-1.2 kPa VPD through harvest, and be real careful about airflow, filtration, and ventilation. That’s like keeping the pedal down and bottle on through the finish line, but it isn’t without risk.

This won’t necessarily directly help with nitrogen toxicity, the nutes are in the soil and I don’t like to try and reset soil. But the plant is going to start transpiring a lot more rapidly and you will see some real growth, and the plant will start to dry that pot down and you can start running some of the nutrients salts out of there... it’ll let you max out what you can get from this girlie. Run it until the pot is very dry, then drench it well to good runoff, and repeat.

I dunno how many days until you should water... it depends on what’s going on under the surface with the root system. Let it go until it’s very dry. Then water to very significant runoff. If you put 2 gallons in, you want a half gallon to run off for the next little bit.

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Azam114 said:

Very informative thanks. I will basically dry them out real nice these days with temp and rh high wash them to run off the nutes in 2 days for 15 days. let them dry off for three days than wash them till run off and repeat for 15 days. Afterwards i will go back into feeding them but I will not make the mistake of not letting them dry off and overwater them , so basically my watering schedule will be every 3 days however it will only be washing them with water for 15 days now along with high temp and rh. Lower the rh and temp to it's lowest when my end stage window opens up in 26 days. I hope I get a good yield.

I didn't know about the LED temp thin and the graph is helpful. I will now rely on high rh high temp through veg and early flower for my next grows. Thanks

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