"Those Who Oppose Gay Rights Are Vilified"

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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A Vatican official has told a UN body that people who openly object to homosexual behavior are at risk of losing their human rights when they are prosecuted or stigmatized for their beliefs.

"People are being attacked for taking positions that do not support sexual behavior between people of the same sex." said Archbishop Silvano M. Tomasi. "When they express their moral beliefs or beliefs about human nature, which may also be expressions of religious convictions, or state opinions aout scientific claims, they are stigmatized, and worse - they are vilified, and prosecuted."

"The truth is, these attacks are violations of fundamental human rights, and cannot be justified under any circumstances."


So, what do you think?

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Should people who believe being homosexual is wrong be forced to show why it's wrong or how it can harm society or face the consequences of being mocked, made fun of, or as the Archbishop put it, "vilified" by the public?

Do you believe this is a violation of a persons human rights?
 
420God

420God

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If someone is going out of their way to make it clear they don't like gays then yes.

People have opinions but we have no right to push them onto others.
 
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Richard Smith

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Personaly i have nothing against same sex union as in under law, i absolutely agree same sex couples should be entitled of all the priviledges of marrige... if any :D

but i mean same sex couples being married in church? call me small minded but no thanks. it was adam and eve not adam and larry.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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People that are against homosexuality aren't being asked to prove anything. They are being asked to shut the hell up and let others get on with their lives.... Why the fuck do some of you care what goes on in other's homes? It's none of your business..... There is no vilification or prosecution going on for not endorsing homosexual civil rights.... That is just silly.... The Mon Signor is feeling some heat because he persecutes and vilifies gays.... Of course he is going to be attacked back.
 
karri0n

karri0n

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Yes, people who say anything at all that can be construed as anti-gay are persecuted more than gays are. Maybe this isn't true in the south/middle america, but if you live in the northeast or the pacific coast, or are viewed in the public eye, absolutely.

case in point:

Serapis said:
People that are against homosexuality aren't being asked to prove anything. They are being asked to shut the hell up and let others get on with their lives.... Why the fuck do some of you care what goes on in other's homes? It's none of your business..... There is no vilification or prosecution going on for not endorsing homosexual civil rights.... That is just silly.... The Mon Signor is feeling some heat because he persecutes and vilifies gays.... Of course he is going to be attacked back.
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I think you mean PERSECUTION, but prosecution(as in legal action) has happened as well.

Most people don't care what goes on in others' homes. It's the general "It's cool to be gay" trend, aimed at children, that people have a problem with. it pushes promiscuity and shallow interpersonal relationships.
 
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Senor SmokeAlot

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if straight people can get married and be miserable y cant gay people do the same?!?!

i dont have a problem with any one being gay or straight. who cares. i do beleive openly gay people are goin to have it harder and might be treated wrong in our society and its sad. but shit racism still goes on every day,everywhere. there are alot of stupid,immature,closed minded people in this world. i feel that gay people,straights,white,black,hispanic,chinese....wat ever everyone should be treated equal, we are all the same anyways. im not gonna get into whether or not they should be allowed to marry in church, im not very religous so im of that topic.
 
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Illumination

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What business is it of ANYONE what two consenting adults engage in with each other regardless of orientation? That is the inalienable right which the religions, governments, and corporations do not let us have....everyone is entitled to their opinion but not to what people do with each other personally...you have to wrong them by infiltrating their privacy to even have an opinion...

And who even cares what the vatican and its child molesting leaders opine....the whole thing is evil and based on hypocrisy of the highest order
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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karri0n said:
Yes, people who say anything at all that can be construed as anti-gay are persecuted more than gays are. Maybe this isn't true in the south/middle america, but if you live in the northeast or the pacific coast, or are viewed in the public eye, absolutely.

case in point:



I think you mean PERSECUTION, but prosecution(as in legal action) has happened as well.

Most people don't care what goes on in others' homes. It's the general "It's cool to be gay" trend, aimed at children, that people have a problem with. it pushes promiscuity and shallow interpersonal relationships.
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You have got to be fucking kidding me. Being persecuted more than GAYS?? You actually believe that? How many people do you see getting their heads bashed in with baseball bats or beaten to death by gangs of thugs simply because they oppose gay rights? None. How many gay men or those who are perceived to be gay do you see getting their head bashed in with baseball bats or beaten to death by gangs of thugs? A LOT. New York City alone is plagued with numerous gay bashings and murders.

Do you see people putting up websites called GOD HATES ANTI-GAYS and all ANTI-GAYS must die. Look across the country at what the teabaggers are doing to equal rights in states across the country. Governors and state legislators are repealing equal rights for LGBT folks everywhere or trying to impose straights only legislation.

You know what us GAYS want? For you to leave us the fuck alone and let us live our lives. We don't want to destroy your families or your faith or your churches or even your mistaken misguided beliefs. WE WANT TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR. That's all. End of story. Look at Uganda and the Kill-The-Gays bill. Who got that ball rolling? Why some very eager and industrious evangelicals in the good ol' U.S.ofA.

Your post is complete bullshit.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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420God said:
I don't know much about religion but will this affect how the Westboro Church acts?
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It won't. They are protected as a church and the constitutional right of free speech. AS it should be. I don't fucking like what they say but I damn sure think they have the right to say it. fucking assholes.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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And I'm sure none of your fantasies or fetishes could seem perverted to others? Do you also hate blacks because they aren't like you? What about Mexicans? Are you anti Jewish?

Mr.Therapy Man 2 said:
I do stay the fuck away from them,whatever they do is fine just stay away from me with that perverted shit
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No, the word was "prosecuted", I know the difference K, I was referring to the mon signor's own words.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Cool to be gay? Are you on fucking crack? I'd give my left nut to be straight. And who the hell is pushing promiscuity on children? There is more soft and medium straight porn on TV than cartoons. When was the last time you saw two dudes making out in a fucking movie? And as for shallow relationships, you are right, there are plenty of straight dudes that won't fucking commit and the ones that do, 50% of them get divorced....

Keep your straight stereotypes for the straights, we sure as hell don't want em... shallow relationships and promiscuity have been the trademarks of heteros for decades.... just ask the fucking hookers on the corner ;)

karri0n said:
Yes, people who say anything at all that can be construed as anti-gay are persecuted more than gays are. Maybe this isn't true in the south/middle america, but if you live in the northeast or the pacific coast, or are viewed in the public eye, absolutely.

case in point:



I think you mean PERSECUTION, but prosecution(as in legal action) has happened as well.

Most people don't care what goes on in others' homes. It's the general "It's cool to be gay" trend, aimed at children, that people have a problem with. it pushes promiscuity and shallow interpersonal relationships.
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Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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We went from think of the children to.. oh no if you oppose gay rights you're going to a death camp. Despite what some of you think, we don't sit around fucking each other in the butt all day long. shallow relationships? I've had the same gay friends since college. Two of them have been together for twenty years. My own cousin has been with his partner for over thirty years. Through thick and thin. And yes, they are monogamous.

As for what we do to the children. Maybe you should watch this again:

[video=youtube;FSQQK2Vuf9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQQK2Vuf9Q[/video]
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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freedom of speach means freedom of expression.

If you cant take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. leaves little to be said about drama queens, regardless of sexual orientation.


i dont give 2 hoots if people are gay, but the rest of the world doesnt need to see your gayness flaunted like anywhere is hollywood blvd impo.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Then kindly take your arm from your girl's waist. Don't hold hands with her and don't kiss in public. I'm tired of seeing heteroness flaunted everyday on TV, on radio, on the streets...., in the mall, in the schools, etc. Save that shit for inside your home and then we will too ;)

And please don't mistake freedom of speech as a right to insult or belittle others, simply because you don't like them.

Timmahh said:
freedom of speach means freedom of expression.

If you cant take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. leaves little to be said about drama queens, regardless of sexual orientation.


i dont give 2 hoots if people are gay, but the rest of the world doesnt need to see your gayness flaunted like anywhere is hollywood blvd impo.
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Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Timmahh said:
freedom of speach means freedom of expression.

If you cant take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. leaves little to be said about drama queens, regardless of sexual orientation.


i dont give 2 hoots if people are gay, but the rest of the world doesnt need to see your gayness flaunted like anywhere is hollywood blvd impo.
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You mean like the constant bombardment of heterosexuality that is broadcast through every media across the nation? That kind of flaunting?
 
Serapis

Serapis

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That's exactly what he is talking about....

Oh, my previous roommate, who is 24, just bought a house and paid cash. He named his boyfriend of 8 years as half owner. Just another "shallow" relationship I guess... ;)

Carne Seca said:
You mean like the constant bombardment of heterosexuality that is broadcast through every media across the nation? That kind of flaunting?
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