Thompson the corrupt mole

Dankdude

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Not all would put a heroic sheen on Thompson's Watergate role

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | July 4, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The day before Senate Watergate Committee minority counsel Fred Thompson made the inquiry that launched him into the national spotlight -- asking an aide to President Nixon whether there was a White House taping system -- he telephoned Nixon's lawyer.

Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, "At That Point in Time," Thompson said he acted with "no authority" in divulging the committee's knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon's resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson's actions.

"Thompson was a mole for the White House," Armstrong said in an interview. "Fred was working hammer and tong to defeat the investigation of finding out what happened to authorize Watergate and find out what the role of the president was."

Asked about the matter this week, Thompson -- who is preparing to run for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination -- responded via e-mail without addressing the specific charge of being a Nixon mole: "I'm glad all of this has finally caused someone to read my Watergate book, even though it's taken them over thirty years."

The view of Thompson as a Nixon mole is strikingly at odds with the former Tennessee senator's longtime image as an independent-minded prosecutor who helped bring down the president he admired. Indeed, the website of Thompson's presidential exploratory committee boasts that he "gained national attention for leading the line of inquiry that revealed the audio-taping system in the White House Oval Office." It is an image that has been solidified by Thompson's portrayal of a tough-talking prosecutor in the television series "Law and Order."

But the story of his role in the Nixon case helps put in perspective Thompson's recent stance as one of the most outspoken proponents of pardoning I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Just as Thompson once staunchly defended Nixon, Thompson urged a pardon for Libby, who was convicted in March of obstructing justice in the investigation into who leaked a CIA operative's name.

Thompson declared in a June 6 radio commentary that Libby's conviction was a "shocking injustice . . . created and enabled by federal officials." Bush on Monday commuted Libby's 30-month sentence, stopping short of a pardon.

The intensity of Thompson's remarks about Libby is reminiscent of how he initially felt about Nixon. Few Republicans were stronger believers in Nixon during the early days of Watergate.

Thompson, in his 1975 memoir, wrote that he believed "there would be nothing incriminating" about Nixon on the tapes, a theory he said "proved totally wrong."

"In retrospect it is apparent that I was subconsciously looking for a way to justify my faith in the leader of my country and my party, a man who was undergoing a violent attack from the news media, which I thought had never given him fair treatment in the past," Thompson wrote. "I was looking for a reason to believe that Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, was not a crook."

Thompson was a little-known assistant US attorney in Tennessee when the Watergate investigation in Congress got underway. He had served as campaign manager for the successful 1972 reelection of Senator Howard Baker, a powerful Tennessee Republican.

When the Senate Watergate Committee was established in 1973, Baker became the ranking Republican member and brought Thompson to Washington to serve as minority counsel. Baker, who has been among those now urging Thompson to seek the presidency, did not return a call seeking comment.

John Dean , Nixon's former White House counsel, who was a central witness at the hearings, said he believed that Baker and Thompson were anything but impartial players. "I knew that Thompson would be Baker's man, trying to protect Nixon," Dean said in an interview.

The website of Thompson's presidential exploratory committee, imwithfred.com, suggests that Thompson helped reveal the taping system and expose Nixon's role in the Watergate coverup. And while Thompson's question to presidential aide Alexander Butterfield during a Watergate hearing unveiled the existence of the taping system to the outside world, it wasn't Thompson who discovered that Nixon was taping conversations. Nor was Thompson the first to question Butterfield about the possibility.

On July 13, 1973, Armstrong, the Democratic staffer, asked Butterfield a series of questions during a private session that led up to the revelation. He then turned the questioning over to a Republican staffer, Don Sanders, who asked Butterfield the question that led to the mention of the taping system.

To the astonishment of everyone in the room, Butterfield admitted the taping system existed.

When Thompson learned of Butterfield's admission, he leaked the revelation to Nixon's counsel, J. Fred Buzhardt .

"Even though I had no authority to act for the committee, I decided to call Fred Buzhardt at home" to tell him that the committee had learned about the taping system, Thompson wrote. "I wanted to be sure that the White House was fully aware of what was to be disclosed so that it could take appropriate action."

Armstrong said he and other Democratic staffers had long been convinced that Thompson was leaking information about the investigation to the White House. The committee, for example, had obtained a memo written by Buzhardt that Democratic staffers believed was based on information leaked by Thompson.

Armstrong said he thought the leaks would lead to Thompson's firing. "Any prosecutor would be upset if another member of the prosecution team was orchestrating a defense for Nixon," said Armstrong, who later became a Washington Post reporter and currently is executive director of Information Trust, a nonprofit organization specializing in open government issues.

Baker, meanwhile, insisted that Thompson be allowed to ask Butterfield the question about the taping system in a public session on July 16, 1973, three days after the committee had learned about the system.

The choice of Thompson irked Samuel Dash , the Democratic chief counsel on the committee, who preferred that a Democrat be allowed to ask the question. "I personally resented it and felt cheated," Dash wrote in his memoirs. But he said he felt he had "no choice but to let Fred Thompson develop the Butterfield material" because the question initially had been posed by Sanders, a Republican staffer.

When Dash told Thompson on the day of the hearing that he had agreed to let Thompson ask the question that would change US history, Thompson replied: "That's right generous of you, Sam."

So it was, at the hearing, that Thompson leapt into the national spotlight:

"Are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president?" he asked Butterfield during the national televised hearings.

"I was aware of listening devices, yes, sir," Butterfield responded.

Even as he quizzed Butterfield during the hearing, Thompson said later, he believed the tapes would exonerate Nixon, so he saw no problem in pressing for their release. It was after Thompson heard Nixon incriminate himself on the tapes that Thompson finally decided that Nixon was a crook -- and stopped being a Nixon apologist.

"Looking back, I wonder how I could have failed to realize at once . . . the significance of the tapes," Thompson wrote. "I realized that I would probably be thinking about the implications of Watergate for the rest of my life."
 

Dankdude

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Vi, Thompson was the Lobbyist that got the Deregulation of the Savings and Loans back in the 80s, we all know what happen to the Savings and Loan Industry back in the 80s.

Fred Thompson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Thompson, who likes to cast himself as a political outsider, earned more than $1 million lobbying the federal government for more than 20 years. He lobbied for a savings-and-loan deregulation bill that helped hasten the industry's collapse and a failed nuclear energy project that cost taxpayers more than a billion dollars.

He also was a lobbyist for deposed Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who was widely criticized for endorsing "necklacing," the gruesome practice of execution where gasoline-soaked tires are thrown over a person's neck and set ablaze.

In September 1991, Aristide said: "The burning tire, what a beautiful tool! ... It smells good. And wherever you go, you want to smell it."
linky
A vote for Fred Thompson is a Vote for the Same old shit.

What I think is funny is how all the conservitives are fawning over Fred Thomson.
It seems to me that they didn't do their research too well....

Fred Thomson was a Lobbyist for 20 years before he was elected to the Senate.
I wonder who is pushing him towards running?
The same people who push GW Bush into Running.... Neoconsevitives.
 

Indie

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The Liberals don\'t know what to do about Thomson. So they come out of the box with the smear campain. Thats a new idea......
 

medicineman

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Dank ...

And your choice for president would be ... who?

Vi
I don't know about Dank, but I'll offer up Jesus, Other than that, I guess it will just have to be some lowly mortal like Mike Gravel (No chance) Dennis Kucinich, (No chance), Obamarama, (Some chance), Billary clinton (Most chance),I don't think Ron Paul has a chance and I know damn well no Republican can win "legitamately" in '08', Thompson is as corrupt as they come, he is for Thompson and fuck everyone else, Kind of reminds me of you, VI. I'm pretty sure most all republicans and a lot of democrats are like that, at least that's what my 66 years of exposure to them has shown. I just got back from vacation with my wife, her best friend, and our combined 3 grandchildren, aged 4-5-6, I can now see clearly how there will never be world peace.
 

medicineman

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So, how's the heat in Vegas? Should be great for the property values, eh?

Vi
Wasn't it you that said Fuck global warming? Maybe there is something to it. I just got back from Colorado where it was a tepid 90 degrees, Thank God for AC, it's a cool 74 in my home, the temp reading in my truck said 116 on the way into town, looks like we'll be spending some nights in the pool, the pool is around 85 degrees without a heater.
 

Dankdude

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Dank ...

And your choice for president would be ... who?

Vi
Not Fred Thompson, the last thing we need in the White house is a Former Lobbyist (and one who everything he touched turned to shit. Think Savings and Loan industry of the 1980's) and Cover up artist (think Watergate).
Sorry Vi, but Fred Thompson is Damaged goods.

Indie, do you have any facts to share, or do you just like to talk out your ass?
 

Indie

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Indie, do you have any facts to share, or do you just like to talk out your ass?............................................................................................................................................................................................................It\'s the same ol drumbeat, Bush did not win the popular vote, he is not legit. thats bullshit, you speak of facts and then ignore them. let me remind you and everyone else, that Clinton did not win the popular vote in \"92\" but did get the electorial collage, and in turn won the election. There was no whine, no bitch just dissapointment, that brainwashed America was that gullabule. It\'s funny how the same Clinton machine is beating the same drum, and expecting the same result....that is insane.
 

medicineman

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No Republican will ever win Legitamately, in your world.
You mean the real world. Isn't it funny how it is Republicans that all own stock in the voting machines and have control over the inner workings. Am I suspicious of republicans, Hell yes. This last regime and the Nixon regime have proven that most are crooks and will do anything to win elections, from closing voting places early in democratic regions to dumping voting ballots in the trash (Democratic ones of course). So why would I trust the manufacturers of these voting machines (all republican oriented) to not skew the votes. There is no way that they can win a national election at this time without cheating, and cheat they will. I just hope the truth can come out and those crooked assholes can be exposed. I'm sure there are a few good republicans, hell I've even voted Republican a time or two, but this current republican venue is corrupt to the bone. BTW I am also an independent. I take my vote seriously and vote for the lessor of the two evils. I don't think I've ever championed many democrats, there may have been one or two, but I'm not a fan of the democrats either, I just think at this time, on most issues (not immigration) they have a better plan for American people.
 

Dankdude

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Indie, what I have posted can be verified, so it's not the same ol' drum beat as you say. Thompson is damaged goods. You keep calling me a democrat..... WRONG! I'm an Independent. I look at both parties with equal disdain.
If you don't have something of substance to say, stay the hell out of my thread.
 

ViRedd

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I was gonna say, Death to all Democrats ... but then it occured to me that dead democrats vote! Yikes!

Vi
 

Dankdude

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One More thing, Let me ask you where did I ever say that Bush didn't win back in the Election of 2000? Answer: I didn't, ever!
As I said before, put up or shut up.... In other words, if you don't have facts that can be verified, then stay the hell out of my threads. Hell even Vi shows some respect, unlike you.
 

Indie

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Thompson is damaged goods. You keep calling me a democrat..... WRONG! I\'m an Independent. I look at both parties with equal disdain. If you don\'t have something of substance to say, stay the hell out of my thread.************************************************************************************************************************************************************************I really have better things to do than argue with you, but I read the entire post and cannot find where I called you a Democrat, but if you insist. I was referring to the post the med had made earlier about Rebublicans cannot win legit, not referring to you at all. There were two press releases from the Far left about Fred Thompson, and you just regergetated one of them. LOL,you said somthing about \"PARROT TALKING POINTS\". They were both planned and executed by the left wing lib\'s, and then distributed to people like yourself. You are about as independent as my *LEFT* nut, and you show it everytime you post. When you post something of real substance I will show you more respect, but until then, you will get sarcasm.
 

420worshipper

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Thompson, who likes to cast himself as a political outsider, earned more than $1 million lobbying the federal government for more than 20 years.

Doesn't seem like he was too good of a lobbyist if all he made in 20 years was $1 million. But then again he wasn't that great of a Senator. Especially to get elected doing this:

Fred Thompson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
<Quote>
During the campaign, Thompson drove around Tennessee in a rented[37] red pickup truck, and charged that his opponent, longtime Nashville Congressman Jim Cooper, had "never seen the inside of a pickup."
</Quote>

To be honest, I don't really think he's that good of an actor so as somebody that has voted for republicans, democrats, and independents I would move to a European Country and give up my citizenship in USA if he became president.
 

Indie

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Indie, you suck. here is a bit of sarcasm for you: Asshole :: Film Strip International. LOL~: Watch and learn, maybe those two brancells you have left will start to multiply************************************************************************************************************************************************************************* Med, your mother must be proud.
 
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