This should be a sticky !

Xs121

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Actually I'm jealous of noobs...everytime they asked how much their plant would yield.....you masters always say 'bout a pound'. I'm never that lucky. Well, my plants are in their first week of flowering....maybe I'll post a new thread, what you masters think my plants will yield.

Hopefully, I'll get lucky this time :cool:
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I even joined the rm3 site and spent the day reading through threads.

Mimed is exaggerating the story.
Yeah I'm sure things have been cleaned up to favor their story. I argued with the website owner. He will have handled any problems that affect his "business" negatively.
 

whitebb2727

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Yeah I'm sure things have been cleaned up to favor their story. I argued with the website owner. He will have handled any problems that affect his "business" negatively.
No. The threads seem intact. Its not like there is big chunks missing. They read fluid.

I also realize that there is a reason for the way you act. I won't air that here though.

Just going to say you take things way too personal.

You also aired way too much personal info there.

I'm also saying it might be a good idea to just let it go. Your call. Being that angry is not healthy.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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No. The threads seem intact. Its not like there is big chunks missing. They read fluid.

I also realize that there is a reason for the way you act. I won't air that here though.

Just going to say you take things way too personal.

You also aired way too much personal info there.

I'm also saying it might be a good idea to just let it go. Your call. Being that angry is not healthy.

You are right about me putting too much personal info up there. I got comfortable and trusted RM3.

You can't read the actual story as it happened in private conversations and rm3 is a manipulator and a liar.

And like any group anywhere. They will automatically protect their leader. Regardless of the truth.

my personal health issues sure did not start what happened. My accurate opinion of rm3 when I reviewed him and his site and methods privately is what got him upset and using my private words in public skewed against me.

Sure that made me pretty upset.

And he ignored the treatment we were trying for my friends tinnitus just because he reported it did not work the way as promised the first time. But he asked to try again to be sure.

If we were talking a hobby then sure. Let the goof mis inform all the hobbiests. You should read the idiocy on the guitar player and builder forums. But he does what he does with a personal agenda and many of us rely on the plant for our life and livelihood. He is more worried about his ego.

I already admitted my mistakes a long time ago and again now.

Why should I let a rat get away with anything?
 

whitebb2727

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You are right about me putting too much personal info up there. I got comfortable and trusted RM3.

You can't read the actual story as it happened in private conversations and rm3 is a manipulator and a liar.

And like any group anywhere. They will automatically protect their leader. Regardless of the truth.

my personal health issues sure did not start what happened. My accurate opinion of rm3 when I reviewed him and his site and methods privately is what got him upset and using my private words in public skewed against me.

Sure that made me pretty upset.

And he ignored the treatment we were trying for my friends tinnitus just because he reported it did not work the way as promised the first time. But he asked to try again to be sure.

If we were talking a hobby then sure. Let the goof mis inform all the hobbiests. You should read the idiocy on the guitar player and builder forums. But he does what he does with a personal agenda and many of us rely on the plant for our life and livelihood. He is more worried about his ego.

I already admitted my mistakes a long time ago and again now.

Why should I let a rat get away with anything?
Get over man. He didn't rat you out. That's not a rat.

Your claims against him are still there. He didn't remove them.

I think maybe you re seeing boogie men when they aren't there.

Its an unhealthy obsession. The story has changed a bit the more times you tell it. That can be seen her and quit different than it reads.

If he were protecting his image as you say why did he leave the negative things you said on the site?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Get over man. He didn't rat you out. That's not a rat.

Your claims against him are still there. He didn't remove them.

I think maybe you re seeing boogie men when they aren't there.

Its an unhealthy obsession. The story has changed a bit the more times you tell it. That can be seen her and quit different than it reads.

If he were protecting his image as you say why did he leave the negative things you said on the site?

I'm sure the question you are asking should be where are the negative things he said to me?

The story has only changed from his mis direction.

And everything else I claimed is true too. People are afraid of the truth. And brutally honest people are attacked.

What he put on the site during the argument was already only what he allowed. None of my original message to him was answered. He turned it into an attack originally. Not me.

and if he has not deleted my personal info from the private messages he is still a dangerous rat to me.

What do you call someone who breaks confidence and manipulates the evidence?
 

RM3

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I'm sure the question you are asking should be where are the negative things he said to me?

The story has only changed from his mis direction.

And everything else I claimed is true too. People are afraid of the truth. And brutally honest people are attacked.

What he put on the site during the argument was already only what he allowed. None of my original message to him was answered. He turned it into an attack originally. Not me.

and if he has not deleted my personal info from the private messages he is still a dangerous rat to me.

What do you call someone who breaks confidence and manipulates the evidence?
You simply don't get it, I was trying to help you and I have not altered anything as the truth is I could give a fuck about my ego and have zero agenda. I know you'll scream to the heavens it's not true but the truth is you're the only one that doesn't see it. And what you also don't get is now someone here knows the truth as white has read the post between you and joe, he has seen why I invited joe and he has seen the whole truth and just like joe, I invited white because of your interaction with him here . You have a diseased perception of reality and need to get the fuck over it ,,,,
You can rant all you want because it will be seen for what it is and the bigger truth is that makes me sad as I really was trying to help
 

MichiganMedGrower

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You simply don't get it, I was trying to help you and I have not altered anything as the truth is I could give a fuck about my ego and have zero agenda. I know you'll scream to the heavens it's not true but the truth is you're the only one that doesn't see it. And what you also don't get is now someone here knows the truth as white has read the post between you and joe, he has seen why I invited joe and he has seen the whole truth and just like joe, I invited white because of your interaction with him here . You have a diseased perception of reality and need to get the fuck over it ,,,,
You can rant all you want because it will be seen for what it is and the bigger truth is that makes me sad as I really was trying to help

How could you possibly help me? Listening to you and your lighting ideas cost me 30% all year for believing I should experiment just because you say so.

Best results as usual were following the university of michigans recommendation for our type of plant.

And meeting a member you vouched for almost got me in trouble. He is as much of an "expert" as you. Lol. You only cared if I saw the amazing work he was doing with lighting and innovation you taught him. He could barely grow a plant to completion. He didn't even have the t-5 lighting I was supposed to learn all about. He had a ton of sick spider mite ridden plants under 1 light bulb that could never cover the space. And he was an irresponsible dime bag dealing drunken idiot making up a lot of great sounding stuff that is just plain wrong.

Just like you.

His weed sucked and his mentors weed he shared got us mold sick pretty bad. He was explaining how great his curing method works and how to properly store weed at the time.

And how I was doing it wrong and he was "helping" me.

The post between me and joe has no truth in it. I never shared the private conversation. He just kept pressing and pressing because he is a nosey fuck who has to feel he is in charge or involved.

If you had just answered my comments to you and your nosey member did not push about it you might not be in any trouble for being a silly rat with an agenda today.

But you crossed my trust in you and your private website. I did not invite joe into the conversation. And you are still lying about what actually transpired between us.

All I did was not favorably review you and your website as good for beginners. I still say they would get better results ignoring you and your fraternity of helpers and just go on Grow Weed Easy dot com. And I said your weed did not get me or my friend high or help us medically.

But we smoke a lot more than you. He said you were not like us. We have real history with weed. And had real contacts since the early 80's. You make yours up. It has all been in your basement hasn't it? And before that you lived vicariously through your mentor. I read all the posts. It isn't even your work you are selling everyone.

you also did not invite joe in to our conversation. You meant to message him privately and fucked up. You did not mean for me to read the first message to him. You were trying to prepare him first for some reason. I was only talking to you. you made me wait days for a response that never came. You even messaged me you had to think about your response. What was to think about?. I pointed out only the truth about you.

You got upset because I am right and it proves you have wasted yours and everyone who listened to you all these years time and money.

You have a small memory. And a big agenda to be famous for nothing.

You named your website after yourself and the gathering you don't arrange or contribute to is called "Ridfest".

You just get to show up and pretend you are famous so you can pretend you have special worth and aren't just an average grower and a light weight smoker.

You are just like Trump. Not me. You are a politician selling your own cause. You talk about it like you run a cult.

You shared only the angry response from the private message after you insulted me. Not my initial comments to you.

This changes the tone of this all forever and allowed you to hide the truth I told you that you did not like or want to hear.

Truth that explains why you don't even have the facilities to breed properly or even test for stability. Or even ever have.

I was very popular and followed on your site and vocal about not using any special methods and that yield and quality are not mutually exclusive and that none of what you do increases quality at all.

I did this on your private website. You did not like it. In your eyes you will protect your work at any cost.

My mistake for being honest with an "owner".

And you did continually tell me "I don't get it" and you can't grow great weed with those "black market" methods.

You call that trying to help me.

Problem is for you I only simply garden and all of the techniques and info can be found on Greenhouse production and gardening sites and books.

You make this into a big silly hobby and none of what you teach is correct or can offer more quality. Just less yield.

and you do it with a massive agenda to fill your ego. You offer nothing. Your community always pays your way.

Nothing has been proven. You have just continued to hide the truth and mis direct.

I already admitted you turning on me and my friend I sent to you for help has pissed me off and affected my behavior.

And I am afraid for my mistake of sharing mailing addresses in your private massage section.

And I am really sorry I met the Riddler I did. Nice guy. Very stupid and dangerous.

It is you who only lie.

I will handle this in person when I go to Colorado. I am done with it here. I admit it is hard not to comment when your idiotic self important threads get bumped. But it isn't even usually me first. Someone beat me to laughing at you in this old thread before this even.

Someone else who grows much better than you.

Now it should be a sticky. You self important rat fuck.
 

chemphlegm

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I bought the cervantes grow bible and germinated my seeds. by the time the roots showed I had finished the book. then I spent a fortune buying every cannabis cup winning seed available around the world. I grew them all what a blast. built a pro drying tent with controls, set it and forget it, just like the rooms' controls. One weekend of reading and I never had plant issues(unless I tried tech outside of that book), no mites no molds, no police, no shitty "pheno's/geno's", an excellent germ rate, the lowest cost room management I ever heard of, superb ends, happy patients , constant supply.
then I read a better book by rosenthal, and changed nothing. that was almost 10 years ago, I'm not changing a goddamned thing.
if you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on getting what you've always got.

namaste
 

Chunky Stool

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I bought the cervantes grow bible and germinated my seeds. by the time the roots showed I had finished the book. then I spent a fortune buying every cannabis cup winning seed available around the world. I grew them all what a blast. built a pro drying tent with controls, set it and forget it, just like the rooms' controls. One weekend of reading and I never had plant issues(unless I tried tech outside of that book), no mites no molds, no police, no shitty "pheno's/geno's", an excellent germ rate, the lowest cost room management I ever heard of, superb ends, happy patients , constant supply.
then I read a better book by rosenthal, and changed nothing. that was almost 10 years ago, I'm not changing a goddamned thing.
if you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on getting what you've always got.

namaste
So you are are officially "set in your ways"???
That's not good bro.
The implication is "Life is good, I know all I need to know". :dunce:

I have No doubt that you grow some fine herb, but when you think you've peaked, you are on your way to the rocking chair.

PS: I've read lots of books, many of which are out of date. Doesn't make them a waste of time, but the most efficient lighting for flower is no longer 600w HPS.

Just sayin'...
 

chemphlegm

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most efficient lighting? I dont use 600 watt hps btw but thanks for that info. dunno about efficiency but I've never seen returns and penetration like a 1k hps/mh light.
I've been growing on the farm for most of my life. I became legal in 2008. I didnt peak. I found my comfort zone is all. I'm disabled and have several restrictions in my garden, around the farm now. I do whats best for me, now, here.
I've no need to try a hotter room, or colder room, or push fertilizers, or try new additives, or different bulbs even. I'm in no competition with anyone or their produce. I grow for myself, no cups, no smoke downs, no matchs.
i know a few other growers who do what I do, share the same awesome results. I didnt invent growing plants I do what works, and it works well over and over. thanks for looking out though;-)
 
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