this plant needs help and so do i plz

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

im in third week of flowering my plants are doing awesome except this one it has messed with me the whole grow all the leaves are turning yellow i trimmed some off but need help with a fast and easy fix im using a promix in 5 gal buckets under a 400w hps and a 100w hps

KaleoXxX · Jul 22, 2009

a little yellowing huh? did it start at the veins of the leaf and move out? and are you checking the ph of the water and runoff?

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

KaleoXxX said:
a little yellowing huh? did it start at the veins of the leaf and move out? and are you checking the ph of the water and runoff?

well the whole plant has been a supper yellow green the whole time but just this weekend i went for a "trip in the woods" and came back it was all yellow except bud sites i checked ph and it was around 7 ao I FLUSHED it with a 5.6 until it was around 6 i will continue flushing just didnt want to drop it too fast and shock it but i originally thought a N defeciency

CanadianBacon · Jul 22, 2009

hmmm could be N def but what are you giving you plant in terms of phosphorus cuz thats what she needs for budding

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

CanadianBacon said:
hmmm could be N def but what are you giving you plant in terms of phosphorus cuz thats what she needs for budding

im using a mixture that is 15-30-15

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

She's hungry, plain and simple. The one next to her is starting to look hungry as well. Your soil (looks like you are in soil anyways) ph sould be 6.5 to maximize availability of nutirents to the plants. Does your 15-30-15 also contain nutrients other than the basic npk you listed?

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

brasmith said:
She's hungry, plain and simple. The one next to her is starting to look hungry as well. Your soil (looks like you are in soil anyways) ph sould be 6.5 to maximize availability of nutirents to the plants. Does your 15-30-15 also contain nutrients other than the basic npk you listed?

yes boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum, and zinc

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
yes boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum, and zinc

Okay that is a good thing, what about calcium and magnesium? These are 2 important nutrients and some feeding systems do not contain them. If you can and have access to a hydro shop or nice garden center pick up some calmag from Botanicare to suppliment.

For now though, give her a regular feeding, she's telling you she's hungry.

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

brasmith said:
Okay that is a good thing, what about calcium and magnesium? These are 2 important nutrients and some feeding systems do not contain them. If you can and have access to a hydro shop or nice garden center pick up some calmag from Botanicare to suppliment.

For now though, give her a regular feeding, she's telling you she's hungry.

well i try to feed every two weeks is that not enough i just feed a week ago

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
well i try to feed every two weeks is that not enough i just feed a week ago

nope there are no garden stores here and not any hydro stores either is there a good place to get it online thats where all my stuff comes from.

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
nope there are no garden stores here and not any hydro stores either is there a good place to get it online thats where all my stuff comes from.

If I'm not mistaken Botanicare has their own website. Also there is www.advancednutrientsonline.com They don't carry the Botanicare line but they do have a cal/mag suppliment that is good and reasonable.

Also, do you know your ph?
When these plants are in flower they often eat like crazy, especially during the first couple of weeks. Have you been feeding the full dose?

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

brasmith said:
If I'm not mistaken Botanicare has their own website. Also there is www.advancednutrientsonline.com They don't carry the Botanicare line but they do have a cal/mag suppliment that is good and reasonable.

Also, do you know your ph?
When these plants are in flower they often eat like crazy, especially during the first couple of weeks. Have you been feeding the full dose?

yes my drian off ph is at 5.8 and yes i give a full 1 gallon dose to each plant every other water cycle

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
well the whole plant has been a supper yellow green the whole time but just this weekend i went for a "trip in the woods" and came back it was all yellow except bud sites i checked ph and it was around 7 ao I FLUSHED it with a 5.6 until it was around 6 i will continue flushing just didnt want to drop it too fast and shock it but i originally thought a N defeciency

Have you fed since you have flushed? If they were lime before the flush and then you flushed, then all available nutrients have been cleaned from the soil. Since they were lime before the flush they did not have enough stored food in its system to get her to the next feeding. Hope this is helping

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
yes my drian off ph is at 5.8 and yes i give a full 1 gallon dose to each plant every other water cycle

Soil correct? PH must be at 6.5.....bring it up so they can use the food you are about to give em. ;-)

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

brasmith said:
Have you fed since you have flushed? If they were lime before the flush and then you flushed, then all available nutrients have been cleaned from the soil. Since they were lime before the flush they did not have enough stored food in its system to get her to the next feeding. Hope this is helping

well i flushed again today then the last gallon was a nut mix so i hope it is gonna work like i said i thought it was a N def. and wheni checked the ph i knew that it prolly wasnt able to draw thats y i flushed but it didnt do anything so i added nuts to the flush this time

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
well i flushed again today then the last gallon was a nut mix so i hope it is gonna work like i said i thought it was a N def. and wheni checked the ph i knew that it prolly wasnt able to draw thats y i flushed but it didnt do anything so i added nuts to the flush this time

Well, feeding them the nute mix right behind the flush was the next step to take, you are on it, nice :peace:

Now it is time to just sit back and watch the girl come back. Some of the more damaged leaves will not heal, just cut those off so the plant can focus energy on healthier parts. Some of the yellow leaves will turn green again and some won't but it will be a couple days before you know for sure which ones. Keep us posted

ryanp1 · Jul 22, 2009

brasmith said:
Well, feeding them the nute mix right behind the flush was the next step to take, you are on it, nice

Now it is time to just sit back and watch the girl come back. Some of the more damaged leaves will not heal, just cut those off so the plant can focus energy on healthier parts. Some of the yellow leaves will turn green again and some won't but it will be a couple days before you know for sure which ones. Keep us posted

hey thanks for the help talking this out i love this website

brasmith · Jul 22, 2009

ryanp1 said:
hey thanks for the help talking this out i love this website

Anytime....I could talk grow talk all day long and never get board.

KaleoXxX · Jul 22, 2009

i wouldnt cut anything off, the leaves wont heal if there dead, but they dont really look near dead yet anyways. if there dead id let them wither i bit before cuting them off

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