This LED Light claiming 210w draw but 1000w equivilent??

gubblebum said:
Hollandstar is the one im looking at, is this for real? Or some kind of mistake? I'm debating if I should go LED so I can get more light without drawing suspicion... Or just stick with simple HID

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HollandStar...ring-Hydroponic-Plant-Grow-Lamp-/121934212214
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here my question on that led. if its got 100 diode and they 2 five watts at each one .then why only 240 watts . is it running at only 24% . this is where . the led over hid gets confusing . i do like the design. but will you get the same .results.. im ready to step over, but then i see these types of stats . and it gets me wondering .. anyways good luck on your grow.
 
420producer said:
here my question on that led. if its got 100 diode and they 2 five watts at each one .then why only 240 watts . is it running at only 24% . this is where . the led over hid gets confusing . i do like the design. but will you get the same .results.. im ready to step over, but then i see these types of stats . and it gets me wondering .. anyways good luck on your grow.
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you WILL NOT, cobs can grow lots of weed, but HID still kicks its ass in size and quality. LED fanboys like to think they can compete with HIDS best, but they ALL talk out their asses and can't produce a decent picture of some finished bud.
 
No. Fucking. Way.

Just another blurple Mars knockoff.

Believe me when I tell you I know about what's coming in LED, and that's straight bullshit designed to separate the unwary from their money.

You're on RIU, bro; some of the best lighting designers in plant cultivation are right here. Come on over to the LED section and we'll be happy to help you bone up on the newest tech and how to use it to best advantage!
 
for sure. and @ chuck this day 32 of flower. 1000watts hps 4x4 space avg temp 77 rh. 40% lights on 73 and Rh 49% off
 

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Ah sorry didnt realize there was an LED section! Looking through it now! I'd much prefer to grow using HID but, I'd say I'm safely limited to around 2000w of lights in my 2 bedroom apartment so I'm thinking how I can get more yield without raising suspicion on electricity usage!

So I'm thinking

HID Vertical grow SOG or Horizontal and LED lights if they allow you say get close to double output per watt. My worries about a vertical SOG is the first grow or 2 I wont be sure about spacing and will get less yield than a traditional SOG.
 
No, 210 watts won't give you the output of 1,000 watts.

However, if LEDs are 60% efficient and HID is 30% efficient, you will still be putting out more light per watt with LEDs and wasting more of your energy as heat with HIDs.

Two other factors come into play...

LEDs usually concentrate their light into the red and blue parts of the spectrum, and these parts of the spectrum are used more effectively by plants. HID lights "waste" some of their power by putting light into yellow/orange/green parts of the spectrum, and plants aren't good at using these colors of light.

LEDs are more directional. HID fixtures output light in every direction. The reflectors aren't 100% effective, so some of this light is lost. Some of this reflected light hits the bulb again, and is lost. Also, the reflected light has to travel farther, so loses intensity.

Anyway, I would guess that a 210 watt LED could put out as much usable light as a 600 watt HID, but would fall short of a 1,000 watt HID.
 
Ok, well cheers for the info guys! So conflicting though reading up about LED's. Seems some people swear by them and others are adamant they will not give you results as good as HID!
 
gubblebum said:
Ok, well cheers for the info guys! So conflicting though reading up about LED's. Seems some people swear by them and others are adamant they will not give you results as good as HID!
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go look at ALL the LED grow pics, you will notice a common look and theme to their bud, it usually will be fluffy or really small.Not very many pics of finnished dried led grown bud. LED guys will tell you all kinds of bullshit. CAN THEY GROW WEED? YES, will they grow more than hps watt for watt? yes, will they grow better than hps as far as bag appeal/size and density? NO
It comes down to your application, if your growing lots of weed for money, stick with hps, if your growing a couple plants in a closet,LED is probably a better choice.
 
chuck estevez said:
go look at ALL the LED grow pics, you will notice a common look and theme to their bud, it usually will be fluffy or really small.Not very many pics of finnished dried led grown bud. LED guys will tell you all kinds of bullshit. CAN THEY GROW WEED? YES, will they grow more than hps watt for watt? yes, will they grow better than hps as far as bag appeal/size and density? NO
It comes down to your application, if your growing lots of weed for money, stick with hps, if your growing a couple plants in a closet,LED is probably a better choice.
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Chuck is a tiresome luddite. He has zero experience with led. And he is the guy pulling the toot toot on the hooterville cannonball as the levitating train flashes by at 10x the speed.
 
By comparison to HID, the product I've grown under CXB3590 3500K @54W was denser, frostier, smelled better, looked better, stonier....

...and GONE!

In addition, I pulled my first 2lb plant under COB LED, first run with them; that never happened in years of running the same strains in the same RDWC setup with the same trellis panels.

You may draw your own conclusions.

EDIT: I neglected to mention that not only was the growing style and surface area held constant between the two lighting sources, but they pulled the exact same 5400W.
 
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ttystikk said:
By comparison to HID, the product I've grown under CXB3590 3500K @54W was denser, frostier, smelled better, looked better, stonier....

...and GONE!

In addition, I pulled my first 2lb plant under COB LED, first run with them; that never happened in years of running the same strains in the same RDWC setup with the same trellis panels.

You may draw your own conclusions.
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let's see some pics of the finished product.
 
why is it so hard for you guys to take a pic of the bud after it is dried and ready to be smoked, I want to see the BAG APPEAL. it seems to be the great ghost of pictures for some reason. HMMMMM???
 
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