This is really F-ing up my crop & my mind!!!!

smokin1

smokin1

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Ok here is my set up:

Strain: Nirvanas Wonder Woman & PPP, 5 weeks into Flower.

Lights: Veg.- 6 20w Floro Grow Lights. / Flower- 400w HPS in cooltube 18 in. above canopy.

Intake/Exhaust/Circulation: 2 fresh air intakes, 1 500cfm exhaust, & 2 circulation fans(1 below the canopy, & 1 blowing on the top of the canopy.

Soil: MG Moisture Control,(ya ya I know not the best, but its what I got.)

Pot Size: 3.5gal.

Nutes: Molasses only, till today.

PH: 6.5 - 6.9

CO2: Sugar, yeast solution.

Watering Schedule: Was every 2 days till this started happening then went to every 4-5 days.(thought I might have been overwatering)

Watered with 4-5 day schedule for 2 weeks no change, yellowing got worse but no drooping. I started to think its either a Mg or Nitgn Difcy. So today I watered with a solution of EP Salt 1/2 tsp and veg nutes 1tsp Grow Big(for the nitgn). I also misted them today with the same mixture.

Temp: At the start of flowering they stayed pretty consistent Light on 80F-83F(little high), lights off mid to low 70's. Lately the temps have been running high(87F-90F) due to the lack of running A/C, so i open the door for most of the day when the lights are on and it keeps the temp around 79F-82F. I have to close the door when my kids get home and the temps go thru the roof for about 3 hrs.

So to sum this up, I think I was over watering, I think it might be a Mg or Nitrgn Def., or heat stress. All I know is most of my larger fan leaves have fallen off and know its now affecting the upper leaves.

Pic.#1= Wonder Woman
Pic.#2= PPP
Pic.#3= A fan leaf on the Wonder Woman
Pic.#4= Both at 3 weeks

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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KaleoXxX

KaleoXxX

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your diagnosis sounds pretty dead on to me man. i think you need to keep feeding the plant well (dont over feed tho) and figure out what nutes have what your plants need. have you been using flowering nutes, or just a little grow big?

dont stress lousing a few fan leafs its no big deal. plants lose leafs all the time
 
kms420

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hey man, check out the miracle grow molasses thread.
it goes great with the soil u have doesnt burn your plants at all and is easy to use
i use it on all my plants in my flower room, an the buds really swell hope it helps
 
DW4174

DW4174

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Everything looks good to me a little yellowing is ok. You never want to over do nitrogen in the flowering stage.
 
KaleoXxX

KaleoXxX

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the miracle grow nutrients should be out of that soil by now id think. how old are they, and how long did the package of soil say it feeds for?
 
smokin1

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KaleoXxX said:
your diagnosis sounds pretty dead on to me man. i think you need to keep feeding the plant well (dont over feed tho) and figure out what nutes have what your plants need. have you been using flowering nutes, or just a little grow big?

dont stress lousing a few fan leafs its no big deal. plants lose leafs all the time
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Well I used Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom @ 1/6th strg in the second week of flowering. Thats it other then molasses, till today.

I've never had a plant yellow out and drop fan leaves like this, this early into flowering(5 weeks). I've seen them go that route in the 7th & 8th week but not the 5th.
 
smokin1

smokin1

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KaleoXxX said:
the miracle grow nutrients should be out of that soil by now id think. how old are they, and how long did the package of soil say it feeds for?
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Well I veged for 5 weeks, and Friday ends their 5th week of flower,so 10 weeks total. The Pkg says feeds for 3mths., but I watered alot like I said(they felt like they needed it) so it might be close to being washed out.
 
smokin1

smokin1

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Cant get a good pic but the pistils are turning yellow. Dont know if thats the start of them going amber, I cant remember ever seeing yellow pistils before.
 
laserbrn

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Those plants are just hungry man. Feed them. Not nitrogen, doesn't look like a nitrogen deficiency. They need more bloom nutes. that's yellowing up top, not from the bottom up. Just up the strength a little and hope for the best. Shoulda upped it when they started going really light up top, they are pretty far along in their yellowing now. But if you bump the nutes for a week or so they should at least hold out for you until the end. That's all you can really ask for now.
 
smokin1

smokin1

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laserbrn said:
Those plants are just hungry man. Feed them. Not nitrogen, doesn't look like a nitrogen deficiency. They need more bloom nutes. that's yellowing up top, not from the bottom up. Just up the strength a little and hope for the best. Shoulda upped it when they started going really light up top, they are pretty far along in their yellowing now. But if you bump the nutes for a week or so they should at least hold out for you until the end. That's all you can really ask for now.
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I'll have to wait till the next watering to give them bloom nutes, just watered today with Big Bloom. On Tuesday and Wed. I misted them 3 times a day with bloom nutes. I dont normally mist my plants but I have to help them any way I can right now. I was reading some other posts and the PPP is supposed to finish up at 9 weeks so I have 3 weeks left of flowering her, Wonder Woman is about the same flower time.
 
laserbrn

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When you say ph 6.5 - 6.9 is that the runoff or the solution you are feeding them with?

This also happens if your soil ph drops too low for an extended period of time.
 
smokin1

smokin1

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laserbrn said:
When you say ph 6.5 - 6.9 is that the runoff or the solution you are feeding them with?

This also happens if your soil ph drops too low for an extended period of time.
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the soil has had a Ph just below 7 for the entire grow, today i measured the run off and it kept bouncing between 6.5 and 6.9.
 
nellyatcha

nellyatcha

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smokin1 said:
Ok here is my set up:

Strain: Nirvanas Wonder Woman & PPP, 5 weeks into Flower.

Lights: Veg.- 6 20w Floro Grow Lights. / Flower- 400w HPS in cooltube 18 in. above canopy.

Intake/Exhaust/Circulation: 2 fresh air intakes, 1 500cfm exhaust, & 2 circulation fans(1 below the canopy, & 1 blowing on the top of the canopy.

Soil: MG Moisture Control,(ya ya I know not the best, but its what I got.)

Pot Size: 3.5gal.

Nutes: Molasses only, till today.

PH: 6.5 - 6.9

CO2: Sugar, yeast solution.

Watering Schedule: Was every 2 days till this started happening then went to every 4-5 days.(thought I might have been overwatering)

Watered with 4-5 day schedule for 2 weeks no change, yellowing got worse but no drooping. I started to think its either a Mg or Nitgn Difcy. So today I watered with a solution of EP Salt 1/2 tsp and veg nutes 1tsp Grow Big(for the nitgn). I also misted them today with the same mixture.

Temp: At the start of flowering they stayed pretty consistent Light on 80F-83F(little high), lights off mid to low 70's. Lately the temps have been running high(87F-90F) due to the lack of running A/C, so i open the door for most of the day when the lights are on and it keeps the temp around 79F-82F. I have to close the door when my kids get home and the temps go thru the roof for about 3 hrs.

So to sum this up, I think I was over watering, I think it might be a Mg or Nitrgn Def., or heat stress. All I know is most of my larger fan leaves have fallen off and know its now affecting the upper leaves.

Pic.#1= Wonder Woman
Pic.#2= PPP
Pic.#3= A fan leaf on the Wonder Woman
Pic.#4= Both at 3 weeks

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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some strains have that burn effect but yellowing is natural and they look good they just needs a good flush and i say your good to go and dont have pre mixed nutes always go fresh nutes because they get stale and can clog the plant bro, but nice shit keep it up .
 
Phelps

Phelps

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The biggest problem is ur temps. Get that ac running. Get ur feeding pumped up. The first 4 weeks of flower, veg growth still happens. U should make sure to use plenty of N until then. I know people who cut it completely after week 4 or 5.
Everyday u are losing bud. Id say u get 4 times the weight if u get ur temps and nutes right, than if u didnt. A used $50 ac, thats all u need. At this time of yr there should be plenty for cheap.:peace:.
 
smokin1

smokin1

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Phelps said:
The biggest problem is ur temps. Get that ac running. Get ur feeding pumped up. The first 4 weeks of flower, veg growth still happens. U should make sure to use plenty of N until then. I know people who cut it completely after week 4 or 5.
Everyday u are losing bud. Id say u get 4 times the weight if u get ur temps and nutes right, than if u didnt. A used $50 ac, thats all u need. At this time of yr there should be plenty for cheap.:peace:.
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Are talking a $50 window a/c unit, if so not sure that will work. I'm very limited on space, avabl to me is a area that is 5'L x 27"W x 8'T I would have no place to put it. I need to think of someway to make that work, cause your right my temps need to come down and I really dont want my light 5' above my plants.
 
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