things i have learned from republicans this week

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

This is not relevant to anything I suggested becoming an issue. You can't scare me into new politics by a huge logical leap like this. What options do they have? Its Damascus or Beijing and Moscow right? Mutual annihilation is in nobodys interest. China kind of needs us to buy all their garbage too....don't kill your best customer. I am not trying to condescend but fear makes us buy into the worst kind of manipulation.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

Please do, facts are welcome. I am just reeling in the topic I was initially speaking of. Honestly, I don't know anything about this situation and am not qualified to speak intelligently about it. I assumed it was just brought up to reject my military cuts. I think on a gut level that it is some kind of shakedown but cannot back that up.

FreedomWorks · Sep 1, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
This is not relevant to anything I suggested becoming an issue. You can't scare me into new politics by a huge logical leap like this. What options do they have? Its Damascus or Beijing and Moscow right? Mutual annihilation is in nobodys interest. China kind of needs us to buy all their garbage too....don't kill your best customer. I am not trying to condescend but fear makes us buy into the worst kind of manipulation.

Nobody is trying to sell you fear. If anything I'm saying is not factual, or doesn't sound logical then call me out and set me strait. All I want to do is put the facts out in the open, and then let people make up their own mind.

Thats a good point. We are China's #1 consumer. I'm sure they will consider that.

FreedomWorks · Sep 1, 2013

It is never as simple as spending cuts. Its a fear tactic that Obama uses to get his way. Jerry BRown does it here in California all the time. Its dirty politics. Read the article

http://freebeacon.com/obama-threatens-veto-of-defense-spending-bill-if-tricare-costs-are-not-increased/

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

Backing up, I was asking for legit solutions and WW3 came out of the blue. I was talking about humanitarian issues and the we are in the perfect place to negate military cuts. I just don't see what the connection is.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

FreedomWorks said:
It is never as simple as spending cuts. Its a fear tactic that Obama uses to get his way. Jerry BRown does it here in California all the time. Its dirty politics. Read the article

http://freebeacon.com/obama-threatens-veto-of-defense-spending-bill-if-tricare-costs-are-not-increased/

It is a shakedown!!! I guess my gut was on today....

FreedomWorks · Sep 1, 2013

When you cut the military, you cut jobs. When you give the money away to humanitarian efforts, It stays gone. Look. It sounds like you have a good heart and you want to help people. Thats great. really. But its not the government's job to volunteer your money, or my money, or decide how much we are all able to give. And just because we cut in one area doesn't mean we have extra money to put into something else. At some point, we need to start cutting into the debt. Its getting way out of control.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

It is fear based extortion but isn't as complicated when it is a budget reallocation is all. Obamas agenda and the dirty politics are another matter that obfuscates the matter that I was initially supporting. It is easy to do and Americans don't know that apples and oranges are different.

FreedomWorks · Sep 1, 2013

What is it that you want to know burgertime? Ask me a strait question, and I will give you a strait answer.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

FreedomWorks said:
When you cut the military, you cut jobs. When you give the money away to humanitarian efforts, It stays gone. Look. It sounds like you have a good heart and you want to help people. Thats great. really. But its not the government's job to volunteer your money, or my money, or decide how much we are all able to give. And just because we cut in one area doesn't mean we have extra money to put into something else. At some point, we need to start cutting into the debt. Its getting way out of control.

The military as a jobs program borders on humanitarian. Rob got me all fired up and off topic. I am not speaking of arbitrary sentimental spending shifts, he just phrased social welfare as forced humanitarianism enough times. Cutting one to replace another maintains a status quo fiscally and the debt is an issue just like it always was.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

FreedomWorks said:
What is it that you want to know burgertime? Ask me a strait question, and I will give you a strait answer.

We already spoke about it. You said republicans were pussies.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

FreedomWorks said:
When you cut the military, you cut jobs. When you give the money away to humanitarian efforts, It stays gone. Look. It sounds like you have a good heart and you want to help people. Thats great. really. But its not the government's job to volunteer your money, or my money, or decide how much we are all able to give. And just because we cut in one area doesn't mean we have extra money to put into something else. At some point, we need to start cutting into the debt. Its getting way out of control.

We just differ on where we take from and where that goes to. I think both are not impossible to address as major concerns and strategize accordingly.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

It is always me that is asking for solutions, and always me that is offering them. Shooting down ideas is far easier than coming up with and defending your own. I want to shoot too and never get the chance really....I carry a lot of weight here. Is that a fair statement?

UncleBuck · Sep 1, 2013

FreedomWorks said:
At some point, we need to start cutting into the debt. Its getting way out of control.

i agree, we should keep electing democrats since they are the ones who cut deficits and therefore debt.

all republicans ever do historically is blow up the deficit and debt.

you finally made a good point. elect democrats, cut the deficits and debt.

Harrekin · Sep 1, 2013

UncleBuck said:
i agree, we should keep electing democrats since they are the ones who cut deficits and therefore debt.

all republicans ever do historically is blow up the deficit and debt.

you finally made a good point. elect democrats, cut the deficits and debt.

You know Obama increased the debt by just under 100%...right?

UncleBuck · Sep 1, 2013

Harrekin said:
You know Obama increased the debt by just under 100%...right?

that's just plain false.

you know that obama cut the deficit by more than 50%, which is something no republican has done in recent history...right?

Canna Sylvan · Sep 1, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Nice try Kaiser. I know you often talk out of your ass, but how and why did the Government school system originate in the USA?

Perhaps you should put the corn syrup snacks away, shit on your TV, and school me....Kaiser.

Public schools are classical conditioning and behavior modification. At first the bell means recess.

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

Canna Sylvan said:
Public schools are classical conditioning and behavior modification. At first the bell means recess.

Then what happens?

Canna Sylvan · Sep 1, 2013

You become a slave punching a clock. Those in power never went to public school..

burgertime2010 · Sep 1, 2013

I went to private school for elementary...I got to public school and didn't need to study for 2 years. You know that being stond makes you less responsive to advertising....true

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