These Fans Are The Real Deal !!
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LoudBlunts
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yea right.....
southfloridasean
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mattman0217
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I also use the speed controllers. What I found is that they do generate some noises from the motor but not very much. If you run the fan above I would say 50% of max , the spead controller does not cause any hum.
What i did note the speed controller is not accurate. For example if you put the speed controller at 75% speed, the fan is truely at about 40% speed which is not a big deal. But it may be why some people say anything below 80%-90% will cause noise.
I use the speedster and td-200x both recommened on this thread because i like the simple set-up. You just plug the wired fan into it.
I am also the one using the fatmat, I just wanted to note that the fans are quiet enough that you do not hear them outside the cabinet without any insulation. The noise that is generated is from the air movement alone. The fans are quiter than the panasonic whisper I have in a cabinet i bulit for server storage with similar placement, CFM , and ducting.
Thanks for everones input on this thread, this is what rollitup is all about.
What i did note the speed controller is not accurate. For example if you put the speed controller at 75% speed, the fan is truely at about 40% speed which is not a big deal. But it may be why some people say anything below 80%-90% will cause noise.
I use the speedster and td-200x both recommened on this thread because i like the simple set-up. You just plug the wired fan into it.
I am also the one using the fatmat, I just wanted to note that the fans are quiet enough that you do not hear them outside the cabinet without any insulation. The noise that is generated is from the air movement alone. The fans are quiter than the panasonic whisper I have in a cabinet i bulit for server storage with similar placement, CFM , and ducting.
Thanks for everones input on this thread, this is what rollitup is all about.
mattman0217
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Also the PDF that has details on the fan on the HVAC site posted earlier in this thread is extremely useful if considering one of these fans.
For example I am using a can filter 33 that causes a static pressure of .75 and is rated for 200 cfm(found on the can filter website). Using the chart in the PDF file I simply went to .75 in the SP column to see what S&P fan pushed greater than 200 cfm at .75 sp. Chose the TD-200x.
The can filter 2900 causes .25 SP and recommends 50 cfm. Did the same thing for this and chose the TD-100.
You will also notice in the PDF the materials. Models larger than teh TD-150 use steel as opposed to the plastic. Except for the TD-200x that is. The TD-200x uses plastic and pushes slightly less cfm than the TD-200 but has better cfm against the higher static pressures. I wanted the ABS plastic over steel because they are supposed to run more silent and last longer.
Point being, check out that PDF if you are interested in these fans. It contains size measurements (note the small square box where the wiring is can just be unscrewd as it is unneeded wasted space), max operating temperatures, and CFM ratings against different Static Pressures.
Mounting instructions are included to, but i simply place mine on 1/2 inch foam and there is no vibration what so ever. i would not gain anything personally by mounting it.
For example I am using a can filter 33 that causes a static pressure of .75 and is rated for 200 cfm(found on the can filter website). Using the chart in the PDF file I simply went to .75 in the SP column to see what S&P fan pushed greater than 200 cfm at .75 sp. Chose the TD-200x.
The can filter 2900 causes .25 SP and recommends 50 cfm. Did the same thing for this and chose the TD-100.
You will also notice in the PDF the materials. Models larger than teh TD-150 use steel as opposed to the plastic. Except for the TD-200x that is. The TD-200x uses plastic and pushes slightly less cfm than the TD-200 but has better cfm against the higher static pressures. I wanted the ABS plastic over steel because they are supposed to run more silent and last longer.
Point being, check out that PDF if you are interested in these fans. It contains size measurements (note the small square box where the wiring is can just be unscrewd as it is unneeded wasted space), max operating temperatures, and CFM ratings against different Static Pressures.
Mounting instructions are included to, but i simply place mine on 1/2 inch foam and there is no vibration what so ever. i would not gain anything personally by mounting it.
southfloridasean
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These are really good fans and are quiter than a vortex, but they are not designed to be used under pressure. I mean they do not have what it really take to push through a scrubber while pulling through a hose, or grow box. On the other hand they are absolutely great booster fans and should not be disregarded.
southfloridasean
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You really dont want to push thru a scrubber. Pulling or sucking is always better. Now as far as airflow they are much better than centrifugal fans however as far as static pressure they are about three notches below. Look on pg 3 of this link to see comparisons you will see comparison ratios for noise, airflow & static pressure. 
southfloridasean
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oops forgot the lnk http://www.hvacquick.com/catalog_files/solerpalau_TD_Extended_Catalog.pdf
FullMetalJacket
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MdgCmd - While i can respect you belief that these fans do not do well with carbon scubbers I do not think that is a valid statement. What do you base this on? I just hate to see people who do not know better pass on incorrect information plus it hurts your creditbility.
Also on that PDF SouthFlorida just posted you will see a chart of what the cfm is when a certain amount of static pressure is applied.
For example a can carbon filter 33 recommends 200 cfm max and causes .75 SP. The 200x model is more than enough. I cannot open my doors when i have it on low speed pulling through the carbon scrubber. I just started a new thread with using these fans in 3 areas as well as the fatmat.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/70716-building-stealth-super-cabinet-least.html
Thanks again SouthFlorida
Also on that PDF SouthFlorida just posted you will see a chart of what the cfm is when a certain amount of static pressure is applied.
For example a can carbon filter 33 recommends 200 cfm max and causes .75 SP. The 200x model is more than enough. I cannot open my doors when i have it on low speed pulling through the carbon scrubber. I just started a new thread with using these fans in 3 areas as well as the fatmat.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/70716-building-stealth-super-cabinet-least.html
Thanks again SouthFlorida
southfloridasean
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No problem man. Anytime & all the best to you & your grow.
hemlockstones
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....joke....WTF
old yeller
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FMJ - Beautiful cabinet!! Ain't plasma cutters the shit? I'm bettin' you keep it.
Love the 3 S&P's - i'm still doing the math on my wierd space to see which model would be best for me. I'm gonna try the Harbor Freight router controller first, but i see myself gettin' a 3 amp Variac in the end.
Love the 3 S&P's - i'm still doing the math on my wierd space to see which model would be best for me. I'm gonna try the Harbor Freight router controller first, but i see myself gettin' a 3 amp Variac in the end.
FullMetalJacket
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TY old yeller yea plama cutters are cool. I was able to actually cut most of my smaller cuts in my living room..lol. No smell or residue really. Kind of expensive though if i never use it again.
old yeller
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I used one to make this...
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specialkayme
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Not perfect, but works well. That and the insulated ducting.The dynamat is working out huh?
upinchronic1
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WHy? Is the hum to loud for you?
LoudBlunts
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generally speaking, yes!
upinchronic1
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Yeah i just got mine in yesterday, same model, and the hum fwith the speed controll is a dissapointment. It sounds like a genereator or something at half speed, which is shity because if the motor didnt make a sound, this thing would be absolutly undetectable/hearable in any cab, Too bad but yeah i also noticed that if you reduce it by a little less than 1/3 its very quiet, I noticed theres a point where the humming dies down but then the wooooosh of air takes its place somewhere right between there, i think, is the best bet.
Overall, this being my first fan and all i cant say mutch, Im just hoping i can silence it in my utility cab i have. Though i would never relate it to a jet engine, for what that is worth, when its on full speed theres no motor noise at all, just the explosion of air coming out of it. Very glad i got it, So compact!
LoudBlunts
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vortex's are the jet engines...lol!