The White Fluff: My Night In With Lucy

Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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`Dave said:
Is there one ?
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I assume every substance has one. As every substance I can think of kills you eventually when enough of it is in your body.

edit: I looked it up

1) When smoking DMT what is the LD50 ? Can it cause a heart attack?

Certainly much higher than the amount beyond which one would have no concept of what a pipe, DMT, oneself, etc. is. Also much higher than the amount one could get into ones body by smoking before it was metabolised. I imagine that even if one hooked oneself to a machine which continously fed oxygen, nitrogen, and DMT vapour it would still be hard to _physically_ overdose. As for heart attack, I have no idea. I can imagine being scared to death (literally).
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Cool. It's like herb in the sense of an overdose.


Or maybe I'm completely wrong, I'm going in and out of understanding things right now.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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These are the rules that make psychedelics so refined! If you look at the LD50's of marijuana, lsd, mushrooms, and even live fresh peyote... it is ridiculously insane to assume that someone would reach the state of death! On the other hand, when you look at the LD50's of the real causers of death and habit forming ways, you'll find: alcohol, opiates, uppers, benzodiazpenes to be at the pinnacle of overdose potential. Yet, these are more prevelant... more widely used then sacraments that shape and give life meaning... what a odd predicament that is!
 
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Michael Phelps

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^haha your so right.. Its insane to look at how many people view "doctor" prescribed things as being okay, they figure doctor's are only interested in your health... Yeah right, some def are true genuine want to help people, but a good chunk of doctors dont give a shit about anything but a fat pay check and bonus.. Especially the kind of bonus they get from prescribing certain kinds of medicine..
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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Fuck, those Big Pharma leeches get on the poor med students before they even graduate. They are groomed to become dealers of experimental drugs. I have to laugh each and every time I see one of those new drug commercials. "Side effects may include dry mouth, darkening of the stool, numbness of the limbs, coma and death. If any thoughts of suicide occur, see your doctor immediately." W.. T.. F..
 
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Michael Phelps

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yeah haha.. Just like Katt William's points out, half the time the side effects are worse then what your trying to get rid of..

Its amazing when you find out the kind of bonus's doctor's get for prescribing different types of pills..
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Michael Phelps said:
yeah haha.. Just like Katt William's points out, half the time the side effects are worse then what your trying to get rid of..

Its amazing when you find out the kind of bonus's doctor's get for prescribing different types of pills..
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Sadly I was once a victim of that when younger. I would be on one medication for an illness I didn't have. And the side effects of that medication would be siezures. So I would also be on seizure medication, and those meds had their own side effects, so I would take something for THOSE side effects.

Basically I was eating like 8 pills every 12 hours.

Now it's just sweet ganja, and mind expanding substances :)



CaNNaBiZ CaNucK said:
each and every time I see one of those new drug commercials. "Side effects may include dry mouth, darkening of the stool, numbness of the limbs, coma and death. If any thoughts of suicide occur, see your doctor immediately." W.. T.. F..
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SO true! lol
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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Sr. Verde said:
Now it's just sweet ganja, and mind expanding substances :)
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Right on, brother. We need to distance ourselves from the 'Medical Industrial Complex' these days. Obviously, modern medicine has brought us great advances in knowledge and treatment, but they just seem to be tweaking the same harmful substances to get a new analogue from this or that. We need to return to nature's raw medicines. Who knows what advancements would be had if we studied earth's plants and animals more intently, instead of raping the planet of them. We need to merge modern medicine with Nature's natural substances in a harmonious manner where some serious progress could be made. Hopefully, Naturopathic medicine will gain more respect in the future where this fusing of practices can occur. But I believe a shift in consciousness is happening right now. It will happen. It has to if humankind is to continue, I think.
 
growdankbuds

growdankbuds

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The government knows thc kills cancer, there were tests done where thc stopped the growth of cancer in mice. Why werent there tests with humans? because cancer is the number one killer in the world, imagine if all those people lived. massive overpopulation. Why dont we instill morals in our children, and promote birth control, and let cancer patients live. Rick Simpson can no longer return to Canada slowing his message in the US and Canada. He sure the fuck cant do anything in the US We need to do something about the way were being treated. All because the government wont admit a 60 year old lie.............................The US thinks we can fix the world when they are terrorists to there own county. Look in the mirror America
 
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badlandz

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It's funny, and true. I still argue with men of age about it's pros and cons. Oddly most who disapprove are drunken fools who drowned there own thought with spirits.

Odd how they find wrong in a plant that has 0 deaths yet they chug from the same bottle that surely take lives of loved ones they know.

It's a fucking tragedy.
 
growdankbuds

growdankbuds

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Its only a matter of time before things change. Imo they have to its the only thing that can save the world. The thing is it will take as long as it is possible. The government will milk money gained from big pharm since Cannabis will substitute so many medications, yet cannot be pattened
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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ndangerspecimen101 said:
It's not wholly AMS's fault they couldn't do nothing about it... without FDA's and utlimately DEA's approval... essentially its there two votes that really count!
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Yeah, you're right. Just another yesman when you get down to it..


And the FDA is a funny organization to.. They don't actually do any clinical tests themselves on anything that crosses their desks. They rely on the applicant's own testing! Laughable!
 
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badlandz

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Things are the way we as a whole allow them to be.

Make your own destination, beat your own path, set forth a path for the new generation. Do your part.

A product of the underworld is a movement my friend. Abide no laws that contradict life. Take what you feel heals.

Do that and you have done your part.
 
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