The universe itself is God

x15

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Ever try talking to an addict out of addiction? The same neurochemical processes are at work for thought addictions.

In other words the ancient part of the brain that motivates for the gathering of resources & reproduction is overtaking the more modern thinking frontal lobe.


soooo, what youre saying is your thoughts are
'neurochemical processes are at work for thought addictions' & your thoughts are also '...Anything that goes against this causes cognitive dissonance. This is the Dopamine strengthened pathways in the brain that are bridges getting yanked at because deviations from...'

& your
'...ancient part of the brain that motivates for the gathering of resources & reproduction is overtaking the more modern thinking frontal lobe' as well ;)

your logic doesnt make sense, youre doing the same thing you accuse me of

you cant have it both ways

peace :)
 

x15

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Dinosaurs in ancient Egypt?

Not like they had Nile Crocs.




you do know you just proved my point? ;)

large reptile.
dino = large
saurus = reptile

& we know there were larger ones by the fossil records from that area & throughout the world.

the bible is correct again by recording dinosaurs

no one ever reads posts
old testament hebrew from the bible:
'gadol' — big, great
'taniyn' — reptile

greek:
'deinos' — 'big, terrible' or 'fearfully great'
'sauros' — 'reptile' 'lizard'

dinosaur! presto!

peace :)
 

eye exaggerate

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This is bullshit. Get educated...Please.

Ever try talking to an addict out of addiction? The same neurochemical processes are at work for thought addictions.

Your addiction is God belief. Anything that goes against this causes cognitive dissonance. This is the Dopamine strengthened pathways in the brain that are bridges getting yanked at because deviations from the expected reward (Heaven) is ingrained.

In other words the ancient part of the brain that motivates for the gathering of resources & reproduction is overtaking the more modern thinking frontal lobe.

Respectfully disagree. I think there is a time when it is reason that causes people to see a bigger picture / "God".

You / no one can compute the amount of available information (known and unknown), so, is it God of the Gaps-ish to say that it cannot be possible that a "God" exists?
 

iHearAll

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dont say He buddybud

thats messed up man. like god's a human or something?
it's a stupid ass argument,


if god doesnt want you to think there is a god then by god you wont think there's a god. but clearly there's a god. doesnt mean you get a gold challice and the knowledge of thousand wisemen and eternal life. you and i and him and her are gonna get snuffed. but theres a god involved with everything! again, like how your disbelief is from god still. my inability to sit down and not type this is a result of god.

ever play "the game". if you know about "the game" then you lose the game. if you know about God you have already lost.

silly ass shit.


but no this post is silly. cuz who the fuck am I?
 

Dalek Supreme

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soooo, what youre saying is your thoughts are
'neurochemical processes are at work for thought addictions' & your thoughts are also '...Anything that goes against this causes cognitive dissonance. This is the Dopamine strengthened pathways in the brain that are bridges getting yanked at because deviations from...'

& your
'...ancient part of the brain that motivates for the gathering of resources & reproduction is overtaking the more modern thinking frontal lobe' as well ;)

your logic doesnt make sense, youre doing the same thing you accuse me of

you cant have it both ways

peace :)
What I'm saying I can back it up with evidence based science.

You are working through confirmation, and cognitive biases.

How We Learn - Synapses and Neural Pathways


Critical Thinking, Confirmation Bias, & You

 

Dalek Supreme

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you do know you just proved my point? ;)

large reptile.
dino = large
saurus = reptile

& we know there were larger ones by the fossil records from that area & throughout the world.

the bible is correct again by recording dinosaurs

no one ever reads posts
old testament hebrew from the bible:
'gadol' — big, great
'taniyn' — reptile

greek:
'deinos' — 'big, terrible' or 'fearfully great'
'sauros' — 'reptile' 'lizard'

dinosaur! presto!

peace :)
So the Nile Croc previously pictured is not a "fearfully great reptile"?

Your line of thinking is false equivalency through confirmation bias.

Your logic is:

A) There's evidence for breakfast cereals.

B) There's such thing as a Navy with a rank of Captain.

C) Therefore since A & B is true, this makes Captain Crunch real.

This is very detrimental thinking that drags societies.
 

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Dalek Supreme

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Respectfully disagree. I think there is a time when it is reason that causes people to see a bigger picture / "God".

You / no one can compute the amount of available information (known and unknown), so, is it God of the Gaps-ish to say that it cannot be possible that a "God" exists?
I'm not saying there's no God. I'm saying there's no evidence for one outside people's Dopamine pumped imaginations.

All that Theists have to do is provide evidence, untill then it's reasonable not to believe.
 

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eye exaggerate

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I'm not saying there's no God. I'm saying there's no evidence for one outside people's Dopamine pumped imaginations.

All that Theists have to do is provide evidence, untill then it's reasonable not to believe.
"All that theists have to do".

Can't even say that I am in the mix of theist / atheist, and I have nothing to prove. For you, it is reasonable not to believe, and that makes no difference in my life, tbh.
 

x15

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According to the Buybull the Earth existed before light. We are star stuff that burned out billions of years before Earth even existed.

The Sun is created after the Earth, along with the stars, and the Moon is it's own light.


according to science the earth is older than the sun.
the sun is younger than earth, the earth is older than the moon.

here's why,
the earth is older (water samples) than the sun (final stages of a t-star) & the moon (rock samples from astronauts).

earth was a water planet before it became a water & land planet (via plate tectonics).

regarding light (photons) & the earth (matter) existing prior to light:

the timeline from science & the bible is...

first,
according to science (nasa & cosmologists) was light first or matter?

matter was first.

what is matter?
matter is, hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium, boron (at the very beginning of universe)

what is light?
light is a photon, photons are both particles (of matter) & waves

the sun is matter. which produces light. see the order?
matter first then light.
no matter no light.
the sun is mostly hydrogen & helium with traces of oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, silicon...the reactions of these elements (matter) produce light
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/suncomp.html

light begins after creation, darkness (dark energy & dark matter) then light (see link below from nasa)

energy first then matter, matter is made from energy, energy is the basis of matter.

the universe is/was dark energy then dark matter, they existed before light

light separates from darkness — by nasa
dark energy & dark matter, http://jwst.nasa.gov/firstlight.html
light separates from darkness, http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/media/080998/index.html

light separates from darkness — by the bible (written 5000 years prior to nasa)
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep
"And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness." <--- see the order? matter was already created then light came later.
(esv genesis 1:1-4)

& possibly all electromagnetic spectrums of light, radio, radiation, microwave, infrared, ultraviolet, visible...


the sun & moon,
since we know light had already been created these 'other' visible lights arrive later in creation's timeline,
"And God made the two great lights — the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night — and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth."

regarding the sun, God made matter, one which was turned into a sphere made mostly of hydrogen & helium with traces of oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, silicon...a nuclear reaction took place which produced light to rule the day... ;) :P

& now a word on orbits,
notice the bible says, "And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth"

the hebrew word 'set' is 'natan' — means 'to assign'

'and God assigned them (the sun & the moon) in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth'
the mass of matter & the force of gravity at work — orbits — presto! :) notice the orbit around the sun came later after the creation of planet earth. 'natan' ('assigned' or 'set' to an orbit), the earth was pulled into the sun's orbit.

the truth,
contrary to popular belief, the first divine creation was NOT the universe — it was wisdom — sooner or later the scientific community will realize this fact, non-material existence prior to material, non-material before nature:

the beginning of creation, wisdom was first.
non-material laws which existed before the creation that would govern the universe.
like laws physics, logic, mathematics...


regarding wisdom,
"When he established the heavens, I was there;
when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28 when he made firm the skies above,
when he established the fountains of the deep,
29 when he assigned to the sea its limit,
so that the waters might not transgress his command,
when he marked out the foundations of the earth,
30 then I was beside him, like a master workman,
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing before him always,..."
proverbs 8
the laws of physics


scientists can further drill down into the biblical hebrew & greek texts of genesis, psalms, job, john, hebrews... for further details of creation, our world, for example, 'empty void' 'without shape & dark' 'surface of the deep' 'darkness was' 'water' 'breath of God' 'what is made is made from things not seen'... the bible is unique in this respect, no other book is like this.


soooooo class... God's love first to freely create us, his mind, then wisdom (the laws to control nature/creation), ok now the creation of dark energy & dark matter before light not the reverse.

moses to scientists, 'youre welcome' ;)

ooooorrr, you can believe everything came from nothing, unguided, undesigned, without knowledge, without laws, by chance. presto, magic! :P


peace :)
 
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