The truth about aliens ?

cannabineer

cannabineer

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reddan1981 said:
Yet you all stay to read this thread ?
My whole point being, your inability to tolerate another persons belief and your inability to understand you can not logically argue a dam thing. We are receivers of information. We have proved nothing personally , so how can any of you argue with disgust at my belief?
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The question comes, where do you draw the line between belief and fact? It seems to me that there should be a ... method ... for separating the wheat of fact from the chaff of all else, especially belief.

Discussions of the shape of our immediate objective universe become impossible (and immediately past that point, boring as Byzantium's tax code) if we are to compare beliefs, opinions and hunches on the same level as fact.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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whitebb2727 said:
Its possible for other life to be out there. It doesn't matter if you believe we are an accident or created. If we are just a random happen stance, plenty of other planets it could happen on. If you believe we were created then why not more on other planets?

I will say this. Several times in my life I have witnessed ufos. All have been near military installations. I have training on how to identify aircraft from all over the world. Some of the ufos have puzzled me. The best sighting I had was within 5 miles of a base. Large triangle craft. Red light in each corner and a large one in the center. No apparent sign of propulsion.

I also had a secret clearance in the military. Got to see Airforce 1 and many other classified aircraft. There were times however we went on lock down and I did not get to see what landed. I really want to know what in the fook I was not allowed to see, even with my clearance.
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ProjectAurora.
 
haight

haight

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cannabineer said:
The question comes, where do you draw the line between belief and fact? It seems to me that there should be a ... method ... for separating the wheat of fact from the chaff of all else, especially belief.

Discussions of the shape of our immediate objective universe become impossible (and immediately past that point, boring as Byzantium's tax code) if we are to compare beliefs, opinions and hunches on the same level as fact.
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Hypothetically speaking of course...
 
haight

haight

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whitebb2727 said:
Its possible for other life to be out there. It doesn't matter if you believe we are an accident or created. If we are just a random happen stance, plenty of other planets it could happen on. If you believe we were created then why not more on other planets?

I will say this. Several times in my life I have witnessed ufos. All have been near military installations. I have training on how to identify aircraft from all over the world. Some of the ufos have puzzled me. The best sighting I had was within 5 miles of a base. Large triangle craft. Red light in each corner and a large one in the center. No apparent sign of propulsion.

I also had a secret clearance in the military. Got to see Airforce 1 and many other classified aircraft. There were times however we went on lock down and I did not get to see what landed. I really want to know what in the fook I was not allowed to see, even with my clearance.
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Secret clearances are a dime a dozen. Now Top Secret- Crypto... that would get you a couple of beers at the local watering hole
 
curious2garden

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cannabineer said:
The question comes, where do you draw the line between belief and fact? It seems to me that there should be a ... method ... for separating the wheat of fact from the chaff of all else, especially belief.

Discussions of the shape of our immediate objective universe become impossible (and immediately past that point, boring as Byzantium's tax code) if we are to compare beliefs, opinions and hunches on the same level as fact.
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A Chevy is a Chevy no matter your belief it's a Ford.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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reddan1981 said:
Yet you all stay to read this thread ?
My whole point being, your inability to tolerate another persons belief and your inability to understand you can not logically argue a dam thing. We are receivers of information. We have proved nothing personally , so how can any of you argue with disgust at my belief?
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Because your posted beliefs here are ridiculous?

whitebb2727 said:
Its possible for other life to be out there. It doesn't matter if you believe we are an accident or created. If we are just a random happen stance, plenty of other planets it could happen on. If you believe we were created then why not more on other planets?

I will say this. Several times in my life I have witnessed ufos. All have been near military installations. I have training on how to identify aircraft from all over the world. Some of the ufos have puzzled me. The best sighting I had was within 5 miles of a base. Large triangle craft. Red light in each corner and a large one in the center. No apparent sign of propulsion.

I also had a secret clearance in the military. Got to see Airforce 1 and many other classified aircraft. There were times however we went on lock down and I did not get to see what landed. I really want to know what in the fook I was not allowed to see, even with my clearance.
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There are many UFO sightings near military bases. I have no doubt you have seen things, but you also know that the military is always doing R&D on new technology that they aren't telling us about for obvious reasons.

Alien life probably exists, a micro organism is a form of life. I have no doubt that there are forms of life somewhere out there.
Evolved intelligent life is another matter.

A lot of what people believe today originated in the minds of people like Rod Serling. I love science fiction, always have. But I still realize it's fiction.

In the words of Will Smith in Independance Day, "Welcome to earth."
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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haight said:
Secret clearances are a dime a dozen. Now Top Secret- Crypto... that would get you a couple of beers at the local watering hole
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Mine was top secret. I got to see some cool stuff.

Very long process and they really dig into your background. They interviewed family and childhood friends.

I also was trained on composite and stealth technology.
 
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tangerinegreen555

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whitebb2727 said:
Mine was top secret. I got to see some cool stuff.

Very long process and they really dig into your background. they interviewed family and childhood friends.
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My cousin was in the army in the early '60's. He was in army intellgence and would never talk about it.

Even now, over 50 yrs. later, he won't tell me any stories about it.

Some people think everything is a conspiracy. There are very legitimate military intelligence secrets that can't be released. How can anyone not understand that?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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tangerinegreen555 said:
My cousin was in the army in the early '60's. He was in army intellgence and would never talk about it.

Even now, over 50 yrs. later, he won't tell me any stories about it.

Some people think everything is a conspiracy. There are very legitimate military intelligence secrets that can't be released. How can anyone not understand that?
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Even the dime a dozen clearances give access to classified info.

My own family knows very little about what I did. I talk in general terms.

They are very serious about it. I was told that talking about certain things could lead to a treason charge.

I wasn't a bad ass or anything like that. No combat or nothing. Just got to work on some cool weapon systems and aircraft.
 
reddan1981

reddan1981

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Unclebaldrick said:
We tolerate you. We mock you but nobody wants to try you for heresy. You want acceptance. Fuck that.
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Told you before, it's you that cares about image, I could keep my mouth shut, and you would never know me. I could open up multiple socks (like you and many do). I don't care for that either. You are rude, and so bloody ignorant to your own ignorance it is laughable.
You think because you can type a question into Google, or parrot the views of dinner time tv, that you are intelligent?

You have been sold a narrative that isn't true. I could leave it at that and say fuck you, but I don't. I continue to try and be respectful, because I empathise with you and everyone else that doesn't understand this.
You are holding on to your distortions, let them go and argue with common sense, instead of your programming.

I said, that all we can see is light, am I wrong?
 
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