The Reckoning

all sounds good to me lacy.

I have never done an march either and to be honest I don't think I can but I can probably do most others.

Its always about making money for the gov't. It really pisses me off but if more of the general public read or heard(even better) testimony (I'll record mine and send it in) that puts a face on it. When I saw this documentary and saw all the different people from every walk of life wanting to use cannibis for something or other, it truly was gut wrenching stuff.
I mean it stuck with me to this day. I'll never forget it.

Imagine if the general public viewed these more and more. We would make such postive changes in the way marijuana is viewed and rid that old out-dated myth once and for all.

skunkushybrid said:

Yes, although we should steer clear of religion... this is about mankind. As FPT said we all have genuine heart felt reasons for growing this stuff. Even the commercial growers have to believe that this is more than just a means to an end to make money (most of them, I hope).

I do it because it relaxes me, helps me concentrate... am I hurting anybody by wanting to self medicate? Do I want some doctor giving me HIS diagnosis, and what he thinks I should take? Do I trust them fuckers?

Medicines are freely available in all kinds of herbs and plants... yet in my country a simple thing like penicylin is prescription only. So, if you cultivate your own penicylin this too would be illegal. Likewise any other 'prescription only' drug. It's all about the money, the prescription drugs are the only ones that work.

They make money from our illnesses, and keep us uneducated and lazy as to what is actually best for our bodies... just so they can make more.

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Gosh yes don't ever add religion to anything. (that would cause world war 3).
We'd have everyone jumping on us.

skunkushybrid said:

Yes, although we should steer clear of religion... this is about mankind. As FPT said we all have genuine heart felt reasons for growing this stuff. Even the commercial growers have to believe that this is more than just a means to an end to make money (most of them, I hope).

I do it because it relaxes me, helps me concentrate... am I hurting anybody by wanting to self medicate? Do I want some doctor giving me HIS diagnosis, and what he thinks I should take? Do I trust them fuckers?

Medicines are freely available in all kinds of herbs and plants... yet in my country a simple thing like penicylin is prescription only. So, if you cultivate your own penicylin this too would be illegal. Likewise any other 'prescription only' drug. It's all about the money, the prescription drugs are the only ones that work.

They make money from our illnesses, and keep us uneducated and lazy as to what is actually best for our bodies... just so they can make more.

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the rest of the US, are yet to wake up... I mean that literally as in regards to the thread moving slowly.

Yes, I believe it can be done legally, but only with the threat of illegality if they do not comply. With enough pressure they have to cave in.

How many of us here have actually been on a march?

I warrant there aren't many. Me included, I've never been on a march.

Yet, the marches still draw significant followers... already enough to have a voice in government. What if, all of us joined in? How loud would we be then?

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I like this idea. We could stage a million man march. To show the gov't how many of us there are. If we all stand together, We would hold the power.

Most the bans on pot are from propaganda, and bogus data done a long time ago..

I can drink and smoke tobacco as much as I please, yet a naturally occurring plant I can't. Not only that but be treated just as bad as if I was doing something that was a serious crime.


There is a lot of bullshit about this simple plant that was started in what I'd call the time of ignorant propaganda against anything different. Hell, in the 1950's there was plenty of films that portrayed any homosexual as a pedophile and out to molest America's children. People still buy into this crap too, thats the sad thing! I don't like the fact people blame the herb for people's choices, I've smoked for years yet never moved onto any other drug as a primary high, I don't even drink too often because I don't like the way it makes me feel.


For those people who worry about people being extremely blazed and driving they have a on the spot THC test which can detect if someone had consumed an amount of the herb, but I don't see what the worry about that is.. It still is a crime to drive intoxicated with any substance even LEGAL ones.

I personally don't like the fact the government wants to tell me what is right for my body and what isn't. I have a brain and are capable of reading the data myself so I can make my own choice on it.

So I'd for sure be up for something, though I wont be carrying anything on such a date my experiences in jail have been extremely awful.

Count me in on whatever you guys decide on.

It would be wise if nobody brings herb at the time because that would turn into a huge arrest-fest, I'm sure they'll be performing searches on people

No, no searches... they wouldn't be able to come near us. Imagine if they did, there'd be a riot. Violence begets violence, and if they start it they would lose. They don't have the man power.

Although neither do we, at the moment. 11 votes for a Saturday is not very good. Let's see what Sunday brings.

What about this. Use Central Park in New York. Contact the clinics and Normal since they seem to have a lot of pull. I also know some really big players in this game. Alert everyone on all the boards and every single site possible. Oh, I'm sure there is one of you out there that is a mega huge website geek......(I'm married to a geek) no offence...maybe there are a lot of people. Start posting all the reasons that weed is good and not dangerous. Compare it to other things that are legal. Then, if you can get one of the presidential running mates to notice us, he or she may have no choice but to support it.

Now, about the other problems this could spawn. Growers would have to lower prices (because not everyone has the talent to grow) and their living would be compromised. Also, the drug companies have so much money and so many lawyers that they could tie this up in courts for a century. Drug companies honestly are the losers here and big business won't let us through. Otherwise it would have been legalized a long time ago.

I completely agree with you on this and would help anyway that I know how. We really need to plan this very carefully to create the best impact. Winning right away will not happen....but if there are enough rallys and newscasts and articles it would really help.

Also, we all have to appear extremely professional and not be violent in any fashion. That is exactly why the conservatives don't like this drug. They are afraid. So...education is also the key.

Start building web sites, talk to people, post on the boards, contact your friends, call the clinics, contact Normal, get on TV (not really hard to do) and use the media to fight.

Just my two cents.

Yes I agree... but we could do it world-wide. With the right pushes, I just bet that mm would get legalised a lot quicker.

They'd do it as an offering... also as they know that the mm users would drop out of the debate (at least quite a lot would).

I honestly believe though that we need to threaten them with the fact that if they don't let us grow... then we shall just do it anyway.


I agree with the website building... also other forums must get involved... and it would help if we could all join local cannabis legalisation initiatives and push the cause there. Everything, and anything we can think of. I know it'll take a while, and lots of organisation.

But I'm taking this site as a general guide to cannabis smokers, and not many of us seem to want it badly enough. I've never liked being in fear... and the only thing I truthfully fear are the police.

Although I agree with this thread, it just doesn't seem logical

Zekedogg said:

Although I agree with this thread, it just doesn't seem logical

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Why not? Or is it your habit to make pointless posts?

skunkushybrid said:

Why not? Or is it your habit to make pointless posts?

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Because I said it doesn't, you need to realize not everyone has the same opinion as yours, wether you are a mod or not.

You say all these things but yet you don't want to be a leader. Why would you not want to lead your own idea?

perhaps consequences?
failure maybe?

No... the whole point is, that there isn't a leader. This must be a conscious decision by all.

A complete change of consciousness. If what I'm saying went to the extremes, we could change society completely.

True freedom for mankind. This may be a level you cannot attain, why would you want to do that?

Anyway, there is too much animosity from you. So please keep out of my thread.

Well realistically speaking, WE would never get enough support therefore the people that do support it I believe would suffer consequences...Its all about numbers, and I just don't think they favor us

Zekedogg said:

Well realistically speaking, WE would never get enough support therefore the people that do support it I believe would suffer consequences...Its all about numbers, and I just don't think they favor us

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No, it seems they don't.

u both need to stop arguing....smoke something...shit----

yes you do not need a leader but you do need leader figures to gain and show power/authority----i would comtact some popular stoners if i were u---i dont no anyone but im with ya!

The numbers seem to be growing... and what an appropriate number we are on.

12 disciples of the cause.

Negativity should never rule your heart.

Remember we are doing nothing wrong... what we do does not hurt anybody.

As people we do have the power to move governments. If you're positive that what you do is right. there can be no shades of grey (gray).

um, what about this???????

Worldwide Marijuana March 2008

Worldwide Marijuana March 2008

Worldwide Marijuana March 2008

Great find fdd'...

My nearest is London.

Get in touch with the relative leaders of your march, and tell them of the new desire. Simply, enough is enough. They either give us what we want or we take it.

I see banners... and fdd' t-shirts...lol... maybe hotdogs.

I been thinking a lot about this and I think the quickest way to gain attention is to hit them where it hurts most...The wallet(so to speak). We could try to fuck up the economy somehow. Maybe schedule a day where us stoners don't buy a single thing. Not gas, food, or anything. See how much money the economy loses in one day. And then tell them we're scheduling one day a month like this until weed is legal.