The Public Sucks

The Gram Reaper said:

Where do I stand? I stand here wondering why you guys fight to give power to people you never met, that will never appreciate it, and that will never repay you or improve your quality of life.

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It's not like people have a choice about personally experiencing another's personality, how would you suggest 500,000 people do that with their congress person? This is a discussion about politics and that means it's a fight, and it's closely tied to the fight for liberty these days, the stakes have never been higher. If your young you'll have to live with the consequences of this bullshit a lot longer than an old fart like me! Trump is a menace, if you read a bit of history you'll find out that an unstable sociopathic leader is a very bad idea. In America a third of the government and it's administration depend on the character of the president and this one has none.

Some of the consequences of the above are toddlers in cages under inhuman conditions and a whole lot of stupid in general. Prices are going up on Chinese imports by 15% soon is another, as is the damage to American agriculture. The list is very long...

The Gram Reaper said:

Definately racist, the human race.

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You’re a retarded sock puppet

bartow said:

Carlin has a good point. A good point is a good point regardless of what else a person might say or think. It is a fact that those who get what they want from government work outside the system to accomplish that. Voting has been neutralized as an effective means of managing government. Representation is transferable. As soon as your favorite candidates take office you get outbid with respect to representation. You end up without any. The representation you expect gets bought away from you by those who work outside the system. Only individual citizens can change this but most believe government works one way when it really works another. Your favorite candidate is really not going to be your fairy god mother. Democracy/republic is the best system but it really is a brutal process. If citizens let it get corrupted things turn out badly and that is what has happened.

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The Gram Reaper said:

What do I think about Donald? He told people what they wanted to hear and made empty promises to get what he wanted.

Where do I stand? I stand here wondering why you guys fight to give power to people you never met, that will never appreciate it, and that will never repay you or improve your quality of life.

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Then don’t vote. Either of you

Trump will miss your votes

The rest of us Dems are gonna vote out the racist, kid raping neo nazi that both of you voted for

The Gram Reaper said:

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Carlin has the right to be wrong and say it out loud. It should be said that voter suppression is a Republican tool, which makes me wonder why you support that.

Democracy requires informed voters. I'm OK with people who can't be bothered to learn enough to make a choice stepping up and not voting. It's not admirable though.

UncleBuck said:

Then don’t vote. Either of you

Trump will miss your votes

The rest of us Dems are gonna vote out the racist, kid raping neo nazi that both of you voted for

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In my opinion, there is no such thing as a good president. I don't support presidents. I am part of the sovereign. It is from the sovereign that the president gets his approval. My role and yours also is to rein in presidents, not support them. As far as Trump is concerned, he is doing far worse things than most are aware of. When people vote, they are messiah seeking and voting their fantasies. That is no way to vote for a president. Democracy is a blood sport. Truth is not used in politics.

I wish the Democrats had a good candidate. They don't. If one doesn't pop up, we are going to have 6 more years of Trump. Just because you like someone doesn't mean they have a chance to win.

bartow said:

In my opinion, there is no such thing as a good president. I don't support presidents. I am part of the sovereign. It is from the sovereign that the president gets his approval. My role and yours also is to rein in presidents, not support them. As far as Trump is concerned, he is doing far worse things than most are aware of. When people vote, they are messiah seeking and voting their fantasies. That is no way to vote for a president. Democracy is a blood sport. Truth is not used in politics.

I wish the Democrats had a good candidate. They don't. If one doesn't pop up, we are going to have 6 more years of Trump. Just because you like someone doesn't mean they have a chance to win.

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"part of the sovereign. "

LOL, part of the right wing propaganda dupes. There is no such thing. Never was. re: @Rob Roy

bartow said:

In my opinion, there is no such thing as a good president. I don't support presidents. I am part of the sovereign. It is from the sovereign that the president gets his approval. My role and yours also is to rein in presidents, not support them. As far as Trump is concerned, he is doing far worse things than most are aware of. When people vote, they are messiah seeking and voting their fantasies. That is no way to vote for a president. Democracy is a blood sport. Truth is not used in politics.

I wish the Democrats had a good candidate. They don't. If one doesn't pop up, we are going to have 6 more years of Trump. Just because you like someone doesn't mean they have a chance to win.

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Each side proves the other side is discredited. 6 more years?

It's a big club, and you aint in it!

bartow said:

I am part of the sovereign.

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LOL

The Gram Reaper said:

Each side proves the other side is discredited

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naive

DIY-HP-LED said:

The democrats have a plan to combat voter suppression, money and corruption in American politics and gerrymandering too, not to mention foreign interference. The party is responding to the concerns of the populace and the "corporate democrats" are at their nadir, the left is strong in the party. America was for sale to the highest bidder and Putin bought it, why not, he's a billionaire, the days of dark money in American politics are numbered, the NRA and Russians proved how bad an idea that was.

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DIY-HP-LED said:

The democrats have a plan to combat voter suppression, money and corruption in American politics and gerrymandering too, not to mention foreign interference. The party is responding to the concerns of the populace and the "corporate democrats" are at their nadir, the left is strong in the party. America was for sale to the highest bidder and Putin bought it, why not, he's a billionaire, the days of dark money in American politics are numbered, the NRA and Russians proved how bad an idea that was.

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The Democrats are in serious trouble. Trump has made the deal of his lifetime and as part of the deal the Democrats as much as agree to lose the 2020 election. It has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. He is dead of course. There is an FBI investigation. There is enough dirt the FBI can come up with to seriously damage both the Democrat and Republican Parties. The Royal Family is implicated. Important members of the Deep State are involved. Trump may be guilty himself. If the Epstein situation is conducted honestly, it will break up the entire power structure of the world. The deal is that the Trump administration squelches meaning evidence on all of the vulnerable. What does Trump get? The Deep State calls the media off and has them go much much softer on him. The Deep State agrees to stop trying to sabotage his presidency. The pretty much concede 2020.

Do I expect you to believe that? No, and almost no one will. But, keep watching. The media has already gone soft. RT is the only network running any in depth coverage of controversy over Epstein's death or any FBI investigation. Democrats can expect no help from the media through 2020. But, keep watching because unless someone gets honest and blows his beets, it will all transpire just about the way I explained.

bartow said:

the Deep State

The Deep State

The Deep State

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bartow said:

The Democrats are in serious trouble. Trump has made the deal of his lifetime and as part of the deal the Democrats as much as agree to lose the 2020 election. It has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. He is dead of course. There is an FBI investigation. There is enough dirt the FBI can come up with to seriously damage both the Democrat and Republican Parties. The Royal Family is implicated. Important members of the Deep State are involved. Trump may be guilty himself. If the Epstein situation is conducted honestly, it will break up the entire power structure of the world. The deal is that the Trump administration squelches meaning evidence on all of the vulnerable. What does Trump get? The Deep State calls the media off and has them go much much softer on him. The Deep State agrees to stop trying to sabotage his presidency. The pretty much concede 2020.

Do I expect you to believe that? No, and almost no one will. But, keep watching. The media has already gone soft. RT is the only network running any in depth coverage of controversy over Epstein's death or any FBI investigation. Democrats can expect no help from the media through 2020. But, keep watching because unless someone gets honest and blows his beets, it will all transpire just about the way I explained.

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yes, yes, "the way you explained it". blah blah blah.

We understand. Trump wants to rule as does his little club of rich men. This deep state thing is invented to keep soggy minds like yours distracted.

From your example, it works pretty well too.

TacoMac said:

There was no longer a need to create jobs when the nation was at war.

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Changed it a tad.
Hasn't changed much has it?

Fogdog said:

"part of the sovereign. "

LOL, part of the right wing propaganda dupes. There is no such thing. Never was. re: @Rob Roy

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bartow said:

The Democrats are in serious trouble. Trump has made the deal of his lifetime and as part of the deal the Democrats as much as agree to lose the 2020 election. It has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. He is dead of course. There is an FBI investigation. There is enough dirt the FBI can come up with to seriously damage both the Democrat and Republican Parties. The Royal Family is implicated. Important members of the Deep State are involved. Trump may be guilty himself. If the Epstein situation is conducted honestly, it will break up the entire power structure of the world. The deal is that the Trump administration squelches meaning evidence on all of the vulnerable. What does Trump get? The Deep State calls the media off and has them go much much softer on him. The Deep State agrees to stop trying to sabotage his presidency. The pretty much concede 2020.

Do I expect you to believe that? No, and almost no one will. But, keep watching. The media has already gone soft. RT is the only network running any in depth coverage of controversy over Epstein's death or any FBI investigation. Democrats can expect no help from the media through 2020. But, keep watching because unless someone gets honest and blows his beets, it will all transpire just about the way I explained.

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So, who on the democratic side do you think was involved? Remember the Clinton's are out of power and have almost no influence in the party any more. As for British royal involvement, have you ever read the British press? They would rip Andrew a new one at light speed. Sounds a bit like Qnon bullshit to me.

Jeffery was a very smart and bad man, a pervert with out of control impulses and who contrived to feed them, he's dead but the cases against his associates are far from over. Your right, I don't believe it, it is very loosely based on a gross misinterpretation of reality (most propaganda is). Sounds like it has it's roots in Russian disinformation, RT is a propaganda vehicle for a hostile foreign power. Wait for the facts to come out and they will, Epstein had lot's of employed help.

DIY-HP-LED said:

So, who on the democratic side do you think was involved? Remember the Clinton's are out of power and have almost no influence in the party any more. As for British royal involvement, have you ever read the British press? They would rip Andrew a new one at light speed. Sounds a bit like Qnon bullshit to me.

Jeffery was a very smart and bad man, a pervert with out of control impulses and who contrived to feed them, he's dead but the cases against his associates are far from over. Your right, I don't believe it, it is very loosely based on gross misinterpretation of reality. Sounds like it has it's roots in Russian disinformation, RT is a propaganda vehicle for a hostile foreign power. Wait for the facts to come out and they will, Epstein had lot's of employed help.

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bartow said:

The Democrats are in serious trouble. Trump has made the deal of his lifetime and as part of the deal the Democrats as much as agree to lose the 2020 election.

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Then why is Trump polling at historic lows against them?

I genuinely feel bad for people that value a comedians political opinion

blu3bird said:

I genuinely feel bad for people that value a comedians political opinion

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I genuinely feel comedy for people that value a politicians political opinion.