The president who cried wolf

TreesAsMedicine

Active Member
Obama didnt start Iraq, Bush did. Bush didnt start in Afghanistan, Osama Bin Laden did. Let us not forget about that.

The true threat to the republican party is, and I HATE to say it, Sarah Palin. In her quest for political fame, or more likely suicide, her and her Teabaggers with make the majority democrat. I am a stern moderate, and as much as I hate radical conservatism, we need the opposition for debate!!! Republicans are more likely to go towards the TEA party than democrats or Indys.

I love how last year on April 15th the tea party openly criticized the president for tax policies, where their dumb asses could realize that he was not president for the 2008 tax year. What a bunch of fucking idiots. Protest war, or something worthwhile, not the fact that you can't do your taxes worth a damn.
 
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Illegal Smile

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Actually, if AIG also went under, and Fannie Mae/Mac went under completely, it would have been a global depression. Let us also not forget that Bush got us in the mess in the firstplace, under policies set forth by the regan administration. America just got greedy.
I got news for you, we're in a global recession now. If the wolves never get any of the herd, the whole herd gets fat and weak.
 

TreesAsMedicine

Active Member
No other country holds a candle to America. What is there to comprehend. You stated that you believe America is the best. Now you are trying to be condescending. By saying I can’t comprehend what you posted? I understand. I figure you are trying to get around the fact. By flooding out subjective garbage. Now it has just become a flame. Chill out smoke some of that herb...

Hell yeah v.
 

TreesAsMedicine

Active Member
Actually, historians will probably rate him the best so-far. Look at the mess he inherited. I wouldnt want that job, but I believe he is doing well. Remember, the economy will not turn around NEARLY as quickly as it collapsed. Myself, as well as most of my friends are a lot better off than we were 18 months ago. Not back to where we were, but going in that direction. I do miss Bush and Palin, those two have to be the biggest fucking idiots in the country. SEE,EVEN WITH A HISTORY OF DRUG USE AND ALCOHOLISM, YOU CAN EVEN BE PRESIDENT!!!!
 

TreesAsMedicine

Active Member
A recession to avoid a collapse and total meltdown. We as taxpayers are also to blame. Overextending credit was a big problem from about 04 to 07, then it took a nosedive when noone could pay. Go to your local pawn shop. There is a lot of shit there folks have to sell off just to live, let alone pay their bills.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Yeah, he's so great starts out with 70% approval, and is under 50 in less than a year.

Outspends Bush times 400% and no jobs have appeared. Business is stagnant and no one will hire. Jobs are shedding and ppl are falling off the job ques (meaning they've quit looking).

1 trillion gone.... and nothing to show for it.

Foreign policy is practically non existent. F-22 canceled.... Space program canceled.

Yah....he's terrific.

Obama knows he's in trouble, even if you folks don't.
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
I would beg to differ. Although I am not content with his overall performance so far, only one thing will determine the 2012 election. It's the economy, stupid.

If the economy is up enough, which it most certainly/likely will since it was damn low when Obama enetered office, blind mice will give him credit for it and he will be re-elected. Who knows what will actually happen, this is simply my preliminary, 2.5 years in advance prediction.

The economy, in many folks' opinions, cycles independently of any president or party in power. To blame Obama for the recession makes no sense. It would be just as nonsensical to say the same thing about any boom/bust that occured when whoever was in office.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
:lol: So when does that start?

It's not going to be anything Obama has done and the ppl will know it. His aptitude has already been judged and found wanting. Not surprising since the ppl voted in a person with ZERO experience. ZERO.... he is a ZERO.

Perry takes out a seated Senator for the governors race in Texas.... it is continuing....:wink:

C'mon NOVEMBER!!! The ppl can HARDLY wait that long!
 
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Illegal Smile

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Obama won't run for re-election, he might not even make it that far.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
He just might step down. The fact that a year in and he admits he might have one term is a FIRST. Political suicide he committed.... no experience.
 

TreesAsMedicine

Active Member
Lets look at the experience of his predecessor(Bush/Cheney). Or maybe the experience of Sarah Palin? Maybe she really can see Russia from her back yard. The reception(Obama) he has received throughout world, has been tremendous (the most important reason IMO, but thats another blog) I am am American, and I have been stationed in the Army throughout the world. Everyone looks to America. Our culture, our music, our entertainment, our influence is everywhere, from Ford, to McDonalds. Sure each country has their on special traditions and culture, but even in war torn Kosovo, hell in Iraq, bombed out Bosnia, I could still buy a Coke. Seriously.

Leadership is defined in many ways, and I feel our president is writing a new book, one that many of us have not considered. I voted for him BECAUSE he had no experience. Where has experience gotton us in the last 100 years??? Two world wars, a depression, Korea, Vietnam, prohibition, nuclear weapons, etc. Sure mankind has also had many advances, but we need some real thinkers, or philosophers, to go outside the relm. You can look at their campaigns to see how they will run the executive branch. McCain, boring, normal, white, wealthy(I mean, the guy didnt even know how many houses he owned amist the most economical mortgage breakdown of US banking in history), old school thought, the Norm. Clinton, pretty much the same way. Newer ideas, a woman, but still white, wealthy, and oldschool. The norm. Now, Lets look at Barack Obama. Not white, not wealthy, at least till he wrote his book, hawaiian born, Ivy League Scholar, and professor, lived in Africa, funny name, and a first term senator from Illinois. He campaigned on change, he represents change, and he IS changing the governments way of thinking. For example, recycling should have been a law 20 years ago; Fuel effecient cars 40 years ago; No wealthy business ties/family ties to the middle east and he has been BROKE (In an interview to Newsweek during the very beginning of the campagn, he told the reporter that during the 2000 democratic national convention he had to call AMEX and beg them to extend his credit so he could get a rental car and a hotel room) An excellent lawyer, excellent public speaker, excellent debater, very knowledgable, and PUBLICLY opens towards the other sides on serious issues; another first for American politics.

Can you at least be open minded enough to understand my opinion???? I'm pretty fucking stoned, but I feel my point has been explained.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
She never said she could see Russia. Misquote and shows how deep you look into things.

Then to top it off, you try and compare experience with Bush (governor for 8 years) and Cheney (supreme business and political honcho).

It's laughable ... and a little sad for you.

Obama has ZERO experience..... and it shows.... glaringly.

I'd say ur the one with the closed mind.
 

blazin256

Well-Known Member
We have to stop blaming one guy for all the problems our good nation has. It takes a team effort to win and also lose. I blame all 535 members of congress. Whens the last time they had a pay cut?
 

CrackerJax

New Member
As Truman said ... "the buck stops here."

These are his policies failing the country.

2 wars going ( okay, it happens), Iran is going nuclear with an insane lunatic at the helm (not okay, shouldn't happen), the dollar is crumbling and a "side" currency is being considered by the IMF ( horrible, and possibly permanent damage), the national debt ratio is overtaking our GDP ( can you say 3rd world?),....

and I'm sorry, what is the national priority which consumes so much precious time and resources? An insurance policy.

Priorities...... Obama hasn't any that are good for the country.
 
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