The people behind the violence in the American protests of George Floyd.

hanimmal

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So in your way of thinking this is all President Trump's Fault??? Get a life.

MAGA, KAG!
You really need to learn how to read and digest all the information again, post Trump logic in the MAGA crowd is so reactive you just ignore everything as soon as you get triggered and go Dear Leader cultist.

I dont believe that where we are at is 'all' Trump's fault.

But I can't think of any single major problem in our country/world that he has not dramatically made worse through either incompetence, greed, or hate.

Is it the hate or pandering to religion that you most admire about Trump?
 

hanimmal

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These proud boy goons need to have a SNL skit.

I imagine something along the lines of GI Joe knockoffs of these LARPers.
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http://www.top5must.com/toys/top-5-g-i-joe-action-figure-knock-offs/
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They can have ANTIFA too, and have the kids playing with them, have one of the ANTIFA guys with a mask you can pull off and it becomes a proud boy throwing shit to try to start a riot.

Then after that, they have a 'mom' action figure who gets called a terrorist by Trump and a Southern Border fed in riot gear gas her only to have a
'dad' with a leaf blower come in to clear the gas to get tackled by the Feds. They could even have a jail toy set for the ending, with all the protestors and have Mueller toy locking up Trump with them at the end.

That right wing propaganda video was plugging every minor 'celebrity' proud boy he got near like they were action figures is why I thought of this.
 

hanimmal

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-Propagandist cameraman: "Someone upload this pic to twitter, this is what they have been putting hot oil in and spraying us."

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I call bullshit.

1. How are they keeping the oil hot in a protest?
2. That cheap plastic would melt (especially the inner straws) if hot oil was pumped through it.

The propagandist camera man ignoring these MAGA hat wearing guys breaking windows of this van and rocking it with the reporters on top. Actually panning away at points, you can clearly see the guy also trying to break the door off of it too.
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Once they broke the window, this guy sprayed this shit into the window, gassing everyone around them.

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Throughout the video the camera man keeps commenting on what the 'other' side is throwing at them (Waterbottles, monster can, rubber balls, chalk, part of a brick, etc), but ignores all the gas that he keeps coughing from and people are washing their faces of, were coming from the idiots on the Proud Boys side.

The guy on the left spraying shit.
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The spray can be seen right above the closed caption symbol on the menu bar.
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Right at the feet of the lady camera person standing on the car.
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Spraying from behind their wall like some pussy version of 300.

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Lobbing smoke bombs (that got thrown back).

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hanimmal

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A long really good conversation a reporter had with a Portland police officer during these riots. It is interesting how similar it is with how I would hear people talk about war.

Some really interesting information, like people handing out 'PRESS' stickers for their helmets and chest that end up being rioters.

The reporter is very good at engaging and pushing back on the reasons he gives for using force.


I think I am really becoming a fan of the deputizing elderly and other adults to be living cameras and have a coordinated response of the police to respond quickly to the actual violence the rioters are doing with pinpoint accuracy.

Space them out so they cover the entire grid of the protests, because they if they are in clear view of a deputy it would be clear as soon as they started to do violence and there would be no false arrests. Plus would be a great federal jobs initiative they could use to fund the police departments with as much eyes on the ground as they could hope for in the cities that would benefit greatly from the public funding going directly to the citizens of those cities that are hurting.
 
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hanimmal

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The Black Lives Matter protests must continue because some people, especially some police officers, still act as if Black lives are worthless. Witness what happened Sunday to Jacob Blake.

Once again, a cellphone video recorded by an onlooker tells a horrifying story. At the corner of 40th Street and 28th Avenue in Kenosha, Wis., a Black man — identified as Blake, 29 — walks around a parked car. Trailing him are two police officers, their guns drawn and aimed at his back.

The scene is surreal even before it turns deadly: the officers wire-tense; Blake continuing on his way, head slightly down, leaning forward, with the air of a man trying to shut out a horrible distraction. Blake opens the driver’s-side door. One of the officers pulls on the back of Blake’s shirt in an attempt to restrain him. Blake gets into the car — and the officers, one of whom still has his hold on Blake’s shirt, shoot him seven times.

“Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam!”

Then the car’s horn sounds, presumably because Blake has slumped onto the steering wheel.

According to attorney Benjamin Crump, who reportedly has been retained by Blake’s family, Blake’s three young sons were in the back seat and watched as their father was grievously wounded.

Blake was airlifted to a Milwaukee hospital and on Monday was apparently in serious condition. The officers who shot him were placed on administrative leave. State officials launched an investigation.

Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) was quick with a righteous but ultimately unsatisfying response. “Tonight, Jacob Blake was shot in the back multiple times, in broad daylight, in Kenosha,” he tweeted. “While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country.”

Evers wrote that he stands “with all those who have and continue to demand justice, equity, and accountability for Black lives in our country” and “against excessive use of force and immediate escalation when engaging with Black Wisconsinites.”

Those words are no help at all to Blake — and not much more to the rest of us.

Overnight, after the video was released, there were protests, “disturbances,” small fires set, some property damage. And there was the obvious question: Why do we have to go through this same cycle, again and again and again? Even after George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Rayshard Brooks and all the rest?

And why are we still relying on chance documentation of these shootings? The officers involved were not wearing body cameras.

The video doesn’t show all of what happened before Blake headed for the car, and it’s shot from a distance. But what it reveals is enough. Without this cellphone clip, I’m guessing the police report would have spoken of “noncompliance” and “resisting arrest” and some sort of “threatening move” — and that, without evidence to the contrary, Blake might have been filed away as just another Black man who got what he undoubtedly deserved.

In the video, as Blake walks around the car, he is not seen to brandish or even possess any kind of weapon. His hands are by his sides or fumbling at his pockets. Yet the officers already have their guns drawn and aimed at his back. The only threat we see being presented, the only crime we see being committed, is Blake’s brown skin.

According to local reports, the officers were responding to a “domestic dispute.” Neighbors said that Blake was breaking up a fight between two women.

There’s a pattern here: Floyd was suspected of passing a fake $20 bill, and he paid with his life. Brooks fell asleep in a Wendy’s drive-through, and he paid with his life. Taylor was just sleeping in her own home, and she paid with her life.
The catalyst that turns what should be routine encounters with police into tragedies is racism.

Such has been the reality for African Americans since this nation’s founding. This is why the Black Lives Matter movement exists — and why it must persist. As long as there are police forces that act like armies of occupation rather than guardians of public safety, as long as there are officers who see the people who live in the communities they patrol as criminals rather than citizens, protesters will have to take to the streets.

Officials in Kenosha County declared a state of emergency Sunday night. But for African Americans, the emergency is permanent — and it threatens our lives.
 

hanimmal

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Local(?) coverage link.

https://apnews.com/97a0700564fb52d7f664d8de22066f88
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KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — Two people were shot to death and another was wounded during a third night of protests in Kenosha over the police shooting of a Black man, Jacob Blake, and authorities Wednesday hunted for a possible vigilante seen on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a rifle.

The gunfire was reported just before midnight, and Sheriff David Beth said one victim was shot in the head and another in the chest, the Milwaukee Journal Sentine l reported. The third victim’s wounds were not believed to life-threatening.

He said that investigators had reviewed footage of what happened and that he was confident a man would be arrested soon.

Beth told the Journal Sentinel that armed people had been patrolling the city’s streets in recent nights, but he did not know if the gunman was among them.

“They’re a militia,” Beth said. “They’re like a vigilante group.”

Cellphone video of at least two of the shootings that was posted online shows what appears to be a white man with a semi-automatic rifle jogging down the middle of a street as a crowd and some police officers follow him. Someone in the crowd can be heard asking “What did he do?” and another person responds that the man had shot someone.

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The man with the gun stumbles and falls, and as he is approached by people in the crowd, he fires three or four shots from a seated position, hitting at least two people, including one who falls over and another who stumbles away to cries of “Medic! Medic!”

A witness, Julio Rosas, 24, said that when the gunman stumbled and fell, “two people jumped onto him and there was a struggle for control of his rifle. At that point during the struggle, he just began to fire multiple rounds and that dispersed people near him.”

“The rifle was being jerked around in all directions while it was being fired,” Rosas said.

In the cellphone footage, as the crowd scatters, the gunman stands up and continues walking down the street as police cars arrive. The man puts up his hands and walks toward the squad cars, with someone in the crowd yelling at police that the man had just shot someone, but several of the cars drive past him toward the people who had been shot.

Protester Devin Scott told the Chicago Tribune that he witnessed one of the shootings.

“We were all chanting ‘Black lives matter’ at the gas station and then we heard, boom, boom, and I told my friend, `‘That’s not fireworks,’” said Scott, 19. “And then this guy with this huge gun runs by us in the middle of the street and people are yelling, ‘He shot someone! He shot someone!’ And everyone is trying to fight the guy, chasing him and then he started shooting again.”

Scott said he cradled one of the lifeless victims in his arms, and a woman started performing CPR, but “I don’t think he made it.”

At a news conference earlier Tuesday, Ben Crump, the lawyer for Blake’s family, said that Blake was shot multiple times by police on Sunday and that it would “take a miracle” for him to walk again. He called for the officer who opened fire to be arrested and for the others involved to lose their jobs.

The shooting of Blake — apparently while three of his children looked on — was captured on cellphone video and ignited new protests over racial injustice in the U.S. just three months after the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police touched off a wider reckoning on race.

Kenosha police have said little about what happened, other than that they were responding to a domestic dispute. They have not said why the officers opened fire or whether Blake was armed, and they have not disclosed the race of three officers who were on the scene.

The 29-year-old Blake underwent surgery Tuesday, according to Crump, who added that the bullets severed his spinal cord and shattered his vertebrae. Another attorney said there was also severe damage to organs.

Blake’s father, also named Jacob Blake, told the Chicago Sun-Times that his son had eight holes in his body. At a news conference, he said police shot his son “seven times, seven times, like he didn’t matter.”

“But my son matters. He’s a human being and he matters,” he said.

Blake’s mother, Julia Jackson, told CBS “This Morning” in an interview that aired Wednesday that she feels as if she is in a “bad dream” and that it felt “unreal” that her son’s name has been added to the list of Black people who were shot by police.

“Never in a million years did I think we would be here in this place. Him being alive is just a miracle in itself,” she said.

During the latest round of unrest Tuesday, police fired tear gas for the third straight night to disperse protesters who had gathered outside Kenosha’s courthouse, where some shook a protective fence and threw water bottles and fireworks at officers lined up behind it.

Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers called in up to 250 members of the National Guard and declared an emergency ahead of Tuesday night’s violence. The night before, crowds destroyed dozens of buildings and set more than 30 fires downtown.

“We cannot allow the cycle of systemic racism and injustice to continue,” said Evers, who is facing mounting pressure from Republicans over his handling of the unrest. “We also cannot continue going down this path of damage and destruction.”

Anger over the shooting has spilled into the streets of other cities, including Los Angeles and Minneapolis, the epicenter of the Black Lives Matter movement this summer following Floyd’s death.
 

hanimmal

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From the above twitter video

White male getting chased down the road by a handful of other mostly white kids. I have not seen any explanation/video of events prior, so it is too early to draw conclusions on anything other than the facts.

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The guy with the long gun falls and gets tackled by a couple guys and he starts opening fire.

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Reminds me a lot of the video of the murder in Florida, as people are backing away he continues to fire.

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There were more shots, but it is hard to tell, but I am pretty sure they were not him at this point.

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The camera pans and there are these three guys who also have guns standing there and start to scatter as the cops get closer.

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I believe that this is the shooter walking towards the oncoming police with his hands up to turn himself in. The lead cop car actually reverses from him. I will need to watch a couple dozen more times to be 100% sure that this is the shooter.

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Instead of taking him into custody, the cops over loudspeaker yell at him to get out of the road and to the side, then the armored vehicles drive PASSED him and continue down the road.

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They drove past him even as people were screaming he just shot people.
 

hanimmal

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It is amazing looking back at the occupy wall street protests in the light of all we know today and how online communication has been hijacked to cause mayhem and to use that to further divide people. I don't find it at all a coincidence that the "Tea Party" the year before and all the right wing hate groups are nudged constantly to fall in line behind Trump and the Republicans, while "Occupy Wallstreet", BLM, and and other movements are left to be leaderless and not tied to the Democratic party (even though the right wing propaganda would have their bubble think they are).

People need to wake up faster than they are to the very real dangers people are causing because they are being radicalized into becoming domestic terrorists while communicating online.

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The online call to arms was urgent: “Armed Citizens” were needed to protect Kenosha.

“Law enforcement is outnumbered and our Mayor has failed,” a new group calling itself the Kenosha Guard wrote, summoning gunmen to confront racial justice protesters in Wisconsin. “Take up arms and lets defend our CITY!”

Thousands of people liked the social media message. And the guns showed up.

Civilians carrying assault rifles and hand guns were visible on the streets in Kenosha throughout the chaotic events Tuesday night and into the next morning that left two people dead and another wounded. This included the alleged shooter — later identified by police as Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, of Antioch, Ill. — who was captured on video running with an assault rifle near a Kenosha gas station at the center of the unrest.

Militia-style groups and their sympathizers have become a regular fixture in the United States this summer, appearing at dozens of events and confronting racial justice protesters. Experts who track militia activity have been warning that the proliferation of powerful weapons in untrained hands during tense protests is a recipe for bloodshed.

“When you have all these elements present — a fraught political moment, a lot of misinformation and heavily armed groups — it’s just a question of time until something really dangerous happens,” said Lindsay Schubiner, program director at the Western States Center, which tracks militias and other extremist groups.

The Kenosha Guard, which called on people to bring guns to Tuesday’s protest, denied on Wednesday that it had any connection to Rittenhouse.

Kevin Mathewson, a leader of the Kenosha Guard who helped organize Tuesday’s activity, said in an interview that he had never met or communicated with Rittenhouse. Mathewson, 36, is a former Kenosha alderman now working as a private investigator and security contractor. He said his aim was to “alert the public that there will be other citizens out there willing to protect our lives and property since the police were outnumbered every night.”

Mathewson, who was carrying a pistol and an AR-15, waved away concerns that the armed presence had exacerbated the unrest, saying he was intent on protecting businesses and the residential units above them.

“I happen to agree with what the protesters are saying, but I don’t like seeing my neighborhood burnt to the ground,” he said, adding that law enforcement on the scene had a “positive” reaction to the citizen mobilization. “They were handing out water to some of us, thanking us and greeting us very warmly.”

Video circulating on social media appeared to confirm his account of officers thanking armed civilians and giving them water.

Guns were visible throughout the protest on Tuesday night. Some White men who moved around in military-style formations were carrying assault rifles and wore tactical gear. Others wore the insignia of the “boogaloo boys” — sometimes rendered “boogaloo bois” — a fringe anti-government movement whose members sometimes wear Hawaiian shirts and expect a second American civil war. Some people protesting the shooting of Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man who was shot in the back by police on Sunday, also carried guns.

Rittenhouse, who was arrested and charged with first-degree intentional homicide, was a member of a cadet program for the Antioch Fire Department, according to a department newsletter. He also had posted photos of himself with assault rifles on his Facebook page, as well as messages supporting the police.

Oren Segal, the vice president of the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League, said a preliminary review of Rittenhouse’s background found no ties to established extremist or formal militia groups. Segal said Rittenhouse’s social media posts showed he embraced the pro-police “Blue Lives Matter” political doctrine. “But there was no indication he had any connection to any extremist movements,” Segal said.

Still, Segal said, Rittenhouse represents a troubling trend of people using their support for the police to justify showing up at protests or riots.

These “self-styled vigilantes” often organize online, based around a loose joint belief that they are needed to help police, Segal said, “but there is no single coherent ideology that is necessarily linking them.”

While some militia groups have decades of history, other militia-style groups have formed recently — or added waves of new members — in response to government restrictions during the coronavirus pandemic and during the protests across the country over police violence this summer.

Their appearances have followed a now-familiar pattern. Often, there is a call to arms spread over social media, sometimes in response to Internet rumors or hoaxes that anti-fascist protesters were planning to loot or damage their communities. Then predominantly White and male civilians have convened at dozens of Black Lives Matter protests, lurking on the periphery, wearing military-style clothes, and carrying assault rifles and handguns.

In recent months, militia-style groups have stormed the Michigan Capitol and rushed to the battlefield in Gettysburg, Pa., following an Internet hoax.
Members of these groups say their presence is intended to maintain order and support local law enforcement. Protesters see them as a dangerous and intimidating presence with a racist message. Some of these armed civilians wear white-supremacist insignia and in some cases openly espouse neo-Nazi views against Black people and immigrants.

There have already been shootings during other clashes between protesters and armed groups. One person was shot and critically injured in Albuquerque in June during a clash between a group called the New Mexico Civil Guard and protesters. The local district attorney filed suit after the shooting, attempting to stop the group from assembling and assuming law enforcement duties.

Andy Berg, a member of the Kenosha County Board of Supervisors, said that although he doesn’t support looting or property damage, the Kenosha Guard is “agitating the situation.”

“If they wanted to be law enforcement, they should have put their application in and gone through the hiring process,” he said.

One man carrying a handgun who appeared to be with the Kenosha Guard identified himself on Tuesday night as Joe, a 29-year-old Marine Corps veteran. He said that there were 3,000 people in the group “armed and ready” and that police weren’t defending the city.

“Ain’t nothing being done,” he said. “We’re the only ones.”

The sheriff of Kenosha County, David Beth, said on Wednesday that he thought Rittenhouse was a member of a militia group but he wasn’t sure. Beth told a news conference that he had been asked by a member of the community to deputize a citizen militia to help maintain order.

“I’m like, oh, hell no,” Beth said. The violence overnight was “was probably the perfect reason why I wouldn’t. . . . Part of the problem with this group is they create confrontation.”
 

hanimmal

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Facebook early Wednesday removed the Kenosha Guard page, as well as the personal profile for Mathewson, the former alderman, for violating the company’s policies on militia organizations — part of broader rules about “dangerous individuals and organizations.” Mathewson, who was an administrator of the guard’s page, will not get his profile back, according to a Facebook official, who discussed these details on the condition of anonymity because of the threat of violence surrounding them. A page maintained by Mathewson, as a former public figure, remains active, with nearly 5,000 followers.

Facebook also designated Tuesday night’s shooting a “violating event,” meaning content and accounts found to be associated with it — including the suspected gunman’s — are being deleted. Facebook personnel were in contact with local and federal law enforcement about ongoing events in Kenosha, the official added.

In Wisconsin, adults are allowed to openly carry guns and don’t need a permit or a license for handguns, rifles and other guns, according to the National Rifle Association.

On Monday night, a group of young White men with assault rifles had gathered at Civic Center Park in Kenosha. One of the apparent leaders of the group gave his name only as Luke and described himself as “libertarian antifa.” He said their intention was to “protect” protesters.

“We’re seen as an alt-right thing,” said Luke, who did not appear to be affiliated with the Kenosha Guard. “We’re a lot like antifa, but we’re not centralized. We’re a Libertarian antifa.”

Next to him, a man with a gun wore a “boogaloo” patch and gave his Instagram handle, “johnnytheredneck,” which describes him by saying: “Now all I post about is hating all government.”

About 9 p.m. Tuesday, a reporter for The Washington Post witnessed these men marching into the protest area near Civic Center Park in formation.
“We’re not trying to harm anybody,” Luke said Tuesday night. “If the cops are not going to stop them throwing pipe bombs on innocent civilians, somebody has to.”

In an Instagram post on Wednesday, Luke denied that the shooter was part of his group and “didn’t appear to be with any other group.”

“There was a brawl at the gas station, my group got out,” he wrote. “We heard the shooting from our staging location about a mile and a half northwest of the incident. Within 5 minutes of us hearing the shots we were inundated with calls and texts about the shooting. We don’t know who this guy is and I don’t have information about the circumstances of the shooting.”

Luke added in another post that it was time for his “bois” to “withdraw from Kenosha completely.”
 

hanimmal

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I really hope the feds are quietly collecting all the people who have done violence at these protests and cross checking it with the propaganda they are looking at online. I know nothing will be done under Trump, but once we get responsible people back into the Executive branch I am hopeful they get to work to shut down all the attacks on our citizens turning them into domestic terrorists.


Especially since the Russian military is actively using it to attack our fellow citizens nonstop for years.
 

hanimmal

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html
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A teenager who walked among protesters in Kenosha, Wis., carrying a military-style semi-automatic rifle was arrested and faces a charge of first-degree intentional homicide in connection with shootings that left two people dead on Tuesday night.

Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old Illinois resident, appeared on multiple videos taken throughout the night by protesters and bystanders who chronicled the events as peaceful protests gave way to chaos, with demonstrators, armed civilians and others facing off against one another and the police in the darkened streets.

The New York Times’s Visual Investigations unit analyzed hours of footage to track Mr. Rittenhouse’s movements in the moments leading up to, and during, the shootings.

Who is Kyle Rittenhouse?
Mr. Rittenhouse was arrested early Wednesday in his hometown, Antioch, Ill., which is about 30 minutes southwest of the protests in Kenosha, just over the state line.

Multiple posts on his social media accounts proclaim support for pro-police causes like the Blue Lives Matter movement and Humanize the Badge, a nonprofit that he ran a Facebook fund-raiser for on his 16th birthday.

His posts also suggest a strong affinity for guns, with videos showing Mr. Rittenhouse taking backyard target practice, posing with guns and assembling a weapon.

But many details about both his background and his motivations for walking around the Kenosha protests carrying a military-style semi-automatic rifle are still emerging.

Before the shootings
About two hours before the first shooting, the producer of a video livestream interviews Mr. Rittenhouse at a Kenosha vehicle dealership.

Mr. Rittenhouse is there at the same time as several other armed men. Some of them are positioned on the building’s roof overlooking the parking lot where vehicles were burned the day before.

In a brief exchange on the livestream, he identifies himself as “Kyle.”


In another interview, Mr. Rittenhouse speaks with Richie McGinniss, a video editor at Daily Caller, a conservative news and opinion site.

Mr. Rittenhouse says that he’s there to protect the business. He calls it his job, although there is no indication that he was asked to guard the site.

Later, he claims to another videographer that he was pepper sprayed by someone in a nearby crowd while protecting property.

In most of the footage The Times has reviewed from before the shootings, Mr. Rittenhouse is around this area. He also offers medical assistance to protesters.

About 15 minutes before the first shooting, police officers drive past Mr. Rittenhouse, and the other armed civilians who claim to be protecting the dealership, and offer water out of appreciation.

Mr. Rittenhouse walks up to a police vehicle carrying his rifle and talks with the officers.

He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away.

First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

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Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.

Police response
As this happens, police vehicles just one block away remain stationary during the gunfire.

Mr. Rittenhouse walks with his hands up toward the police vehicles. Bystanders call out to the officers that he had just shot people.

The police drive by him without stopping, on their way to assist the victims.

After the shootings, local officials announced a 7 p.m. curfew would continue until Sunday. And Wisconsin’s governor, Tony Evers, said he was sending hundreds more members of the state’s National Guard to Kenosha.
 

hanimmal

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this whole thread and no posts of the actual unedited video(s)

Interesting sock puppet youtube page that got all the videos clipped up nicely (including the Russian state propaganda footage). Where did you find the video to post it all here?

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The 'Media' is hiding this snow flaking is what always seals the deal for me to see it as being propaganda.


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Trying to pull another Covington kid snowflake scam by amplifying the part that makes the white MAGA kid look as bad as it gets, then after the story is picked up by major news outlets (because they have to cover it) the rest gets leaked and the trolls flood the internet to say the 'Media" is hiding it.

This is bullshit. As you can see we have been discussing it here, you just chose the most troll-esque title thread to snowflake in.
 
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schuylaar

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A long really good conversation a reporter had with a Portland police officer during these riots. It is interesting how similar it is with how I would hear people talk about war.

Some really interesting information, like people handing out 'PRESS' stickers for their helmets and chest that end up being rioters.

The reporter is very good at engaging and pushing back on the reasons he gives for using force.


I think I am really becoming a fan of the deputizing elderly and other adults to be living cameras and have a coordinated response of the police to respond quickly to the actual violence the rioters are doing with pinpoint accuracy.

Space them out so they cover the entire grid of the protests, because they if they are in clear view of a deputy it would be clear as soon as they started to do violence and there would be no false arrests. Plus would be a great federal jobs initiative they could use to fund the police departments with as much eyes on the ground as they could hope for in the cities that would benefit greatly from the public funding going directly to the citizens of those cities that are hurting.
i disagree for this reason:

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notice the blood coming out of his ear and pooling on the ground..we know the vid..this gentleman was asking a question.

people will get hurt and our most vulnerable exposed to TrumPlague*.
 
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stalebiscuit

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Interesting sock puppet youtube page that got all the videos clipped up nicely (including the Russian state propaganda footage). Where did you find the video to post it all here?

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The 'Media' is hiding this snow flaking is what always seals the deal for me to see it as being propaganda.


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Trying to pull another Covington kid snowflake scam by amplifying the part that makes the white MAGA kid look as bad as it gets, then after the story is picked up by major news outlets (because they have to cover it) the rest gets leaked and the trolls flood the internet to say the 'Media" is hiding it.

This is bullshit. As you can see we have been discussing it here, you just chose the most troll-esque title thread to snowflake in.
wut? i google searched "unedited kenosha shooting" and found this on youtube. anyone can
 

hanimmal

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Self defense. Easy check for his attorney. If I see someone toting a AR-15 in the street I will leave them alone and most likely they won't shoot me in return. If he does time i'm putting money on his books for commissary. The soy boys should have left the little dorky wannabe cop alone. They tried to beat him up and take his gun and got blasted. One of the attackers who got his bicep blown out had a 9MM Glock in his hand.
We don't see what happened before that though.We don't know why he was running from those white guys at least one of which had a gun too.

I still think he got radicalized to think it is ok to carry a gun in someone else's home, and shit that we don't know happened, and this kid now has murdered people.

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He is defiantly crowded around a bunch of potential domestic terrorists in this picture. Who is to say some boogaloo domestic terrorist didn't jump out of his LARPing gear toss on some black and create chaos? I think the NY Times is a very good read to get the full picture of what is known on this so far. The guy popping off rounds in the air after this kid is chased triggered that little rabbit into being a killer in that moment.

But this kid was also radicalized to think it is ok to go to someone else's neighborhood packing openly like he is, is a big problem. Especially because we know Russia has been attacking our citizens with this exact subject.

Regardless of what happens from here, that kids entire life is now screwed, he is now a murderer.

Also the guy he shot who had the handgun, I wouldn't scream 'medic' if I got shot on the street I would call for 9/11.

I think this is likely just more right wing produced violent street propaganda to once again try to paint the BLM protests as anything but peaceful to help Dear Leader's election chances.
 

UncleBuck

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We don't see what happened before that though.We don't know why he was running from those white guys at least one of which had a gun too.

I still think he got radicalized to think it is ok to carry a gun in someone else's home, and shit that we don't know happened, and this kid now has murdered people.

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He is defiantly crowded around a bunch of potential domestic terrorists in this picture. Who is to say some boogaloo domestic terrorist didn't jump out of his LARPing gear toss on some black and create chaos? I think the NY Times is a very good read to get the full picture of what is known on this so far. The guy popping off rounds in the air after this kid is chased triggered that little rabbit into being a killer in that moment.

But this kid was also radicalized to think it is ok to go to someone else's neighborhood packing openly like he is, is a big problem. Especially because we know Russia has been attacking our citizens with this exact subject.

Regardless of what happens from here, that kids entire life is now screwed, he is now a murderer.

Also the guy he shot who had the handgun, I wouldn't scream 'medic' if I got shot on the street I would call for 9/11.

I think this is likely just more right wing produced violent street propaganda to once again try to paint the BLM protests as anything but peaceful to help Dear Leader's election chances.
here is what happened

some white guy (rosenbaum) tried to confront the murder kid, the kid ran initially but then turned and raised his gun to rosenbaum. rosenbaum lunged to try to take the gun away from the kid and was shot fatally in the back.

the same thing happened in the ahmaud arbery case where the white guys hunted down arbery. unarmed arbery tried to defend himself from the armed whites by going for the gun that was being pointed at him and was murdered.

the kid then circles around to see his victim, calmly and dispassionately calls someone to say he shot a guy, then starts running when he sees people approaching him.

he runs for a while before deciding to stop and fight. another white guy, huber, tries to disarm the murder kid. in a fight for control of the gun, he gets fatally shot. a third white guy, grosskreutz, was also attempting to disarm murder kid until he saw huber get shot, at which point he raised his hands in the air. murder kid shot anyway.


murder kid is going away for a long time.
 

hanimmal

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here is what happened

some white guy (rosenbaum) tried to confront the murder kid, the kid ran initially but then turned and raised his gun to rosenbaum. rosenbaum lunged to try to take the gun away from the kid and was shot fatally in the back.

the same thing happened in the ahmaud arbery case where the white guys hunted down arbery. unarmed arbery tried to defend himself from the armed whites by going for the gun that was being pointed at him and was murdered.

the kid then circles around to see his victim, calmly and dispassionately calls someone to say he shot a guy, then starts running when he sees people approaching him.

he runs for a while before deciding to stop and fight. another white guy, huber, tries to disarm the murder kid. in a fight for control of the gun, he gets fatally shot. a third white guy, grosskreutz, was also attempting to disarm murder kid until he saw huber get shot, at which point he raised his hands in the air. murder kid shot anyway.


murder kid is going away for a long time.
There was something about a fire in there, and in that one video that was posted, there is something on fire thrown in the general direction of the kid when he was running. Also someone shot a few times ni the air, and there were a handful of shots after that kid killed those people. Also the way the video was leaked and promoted similar to the Covington kid troll.

The Right Wing crazies are already propping this kid up like that anyways.

I will wait for more to come out about the 'fire' he was stopping or whatever. Until then I will just stick with not knowing.

I am not saying that this kid doesn't deserve to go to jail like every other kid who shoots and kills people in our country do. He does. But a lot of people went into enabling this kid from a different state to bring a gun to a protest and kill people when he 'felt threatened'. A lot of people need to go to jail for this.

Who was sending this kid information about this protest and told him to bring a gun?
 
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