The Official House and Garden Thread

[Jozikins]

Three new products ? Whats every one think if you didnt get the new update from H&G. Nitrogen Boost, Amino Treatment, Shootingpowerder DryorWet.

I got to test the Amino Boost before it came out, I've been using it for almost a year now. It's fucking incredible, but the trial batches went rank fast so you have to use it quickly. I just threw out a bunch because I tried Organics for a while and it went rank over the last 2 or 3 grows. I haven't tried the official product yet, when I was testing it, they were considering naming it "Cell Splitter" but I guess they decided Amino Treatment was a little more conservative I guess. I highly recommend it, haven't tried the other products, I am perfectly happy weighing out dry Shooting Powder so I don't plan on trying the new stuff, and I have no need for a nitrogen boost because I use Magic Green. Not to mention H&G is already loaded with N.

Hi, If I change my res every two weeks and add water +/- nutes based on PPM and PH as well as the look of the plants (wish me luck, how would you folks handle the three week finish with shooting powder? Is this the time to exactly follow the
charts or .. has anyone any advice?? I know I'm being cheap this first run but have also heard that others don't do a weekly change. Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks.
I'm in week one of flower doing a 4x4 scrog with Jack Flash. 40 gal res.

A&B portions are always reduced for me, I've always gone off what the plants like, but for Shooting Powder and Top Booster it is good to reduce your A&B fertilizers a bit, but realize for most 8-9 week strains that week 4-6 is the heaviest feeding period of your plants entire life, and after that, the nutritional requirements drop off the chart, like old people, just don't need as much food anymore. If you would like you can absolutely use feeding schedule strength Top Booster and Shooting Powder. Since you have never used either I suggest using less than what is suggested until you know what your plants can comfortably handle. I have used half strength Top Booster and Shooting Powder and still got greatly enhanced results vs another product. Shooting Powder is really an amazing fertilizer, I swear by it. Next round I want to use just A/B plus the Multi Zen during flower, and instead of BUD XL or Top Booster (a liquid weak strength Shooting Powder formula with a little less magic, btw) and use Awesome Blossoms by Technaflora for flowering and only use Shooting Powder on the last 2-3 weeks. That Awesome Blossoms is some fucking stellar 1 part bloom booster.

Jack Flash is a killer strain btw!! One of my all time favorites, I was seriously considering buying seeds the other night, but I just cropped 400 seeds of my own cross, and have way to many varieties growing out at the moment already, so I decided to hold off. I swear if I found some extra seeds or clones though I would drop one of my major players with no hesitation.
That Jack Flash is pure fucking fire

Nope only just got bud xl and only added 50ml last night cuse I still got a week To go before res change.havnt used top booster ether.

BUD XL is awesome, but I still highly recommend Top Booster and Shooting Powder. If you cant afford the top booster, use the shooting powder at an extra weak dose instead.

 

[Hulk Nugs]

I got to test the Amino Boost before it came out, I've been using it for almost a year now. It's fucking incredible, but the trial batches went rank fast so you have to use it quickly. I just threw out a bunch because I tried Organics for a while and it went rank over the last 2 or 3 grows. I haven't tried the official product yet, when I was testing it, they were considering naming it "Cell Splitter" but I guess they decided Amino Treatment was a little more conservative I guess. I highly recommend it, haven't tried the other products, I am perfectly happy weighing out dry Shooting Powder so I don't plan on trying the new stuff, and I have no need for a nitrogen boost because I use Magic Green. Not to mention H&G is already loaded with N.

Right on lucky bastard, how did you hear about it before it was out? I remember the liquid shooting powder being available when i first started using H&G, but it i think there was something with the shipping on it and the us. Looking into it its cheaper to just weigh out the powder. Magic green is great but i don't use it at much as i should, hate spraying in my flower room gets all over the place. Do you use Cal mag?, was having problems last grow with nitrogen and since i put cal mag don't see any problems.

 

[justcrusin]

Goin with HG for the first time now and can't complain. I live in San Diego and apparantly there are only a couple stores here that have "rights" to sell HG! Don't know what thats about. Anyway I agree the line is magnificent but I do add Cal/Mag as well and even upped it a little after finding signs of Mag def. I hope my initial Cal/Mag supplements 5mL/g didn't lock anything up and now Im overcompensating. Did you ever find out if Cal/Mag was in fact included in there nute line? Seems it would be pertinent info...

 

[Jozikins]

Right on lucky bastard, how did you hear about it before it was out? I remember the liquid shooting powder being available when i first started using H&G, but it i think there was something with the shipping on it and the us. Looking into it its cheaper to just weigh out the powder. Magic green is great but i don't use it at much as i should, hate spraying in my flower room gets all over the place. Do you use Cal mag?, was having problems last grow with nitrogen and since i put cal mag don't see any problems.

Flowers love the Magic Green though. I found out about the Amino Boost through a factory rep, he was at a hydro shop I was shopping at and we started talking and laughing and talking shit on Advanced Nutrients and before I knew it he loaded me up with 2 gal of A&B Cocos formula, a sample pack of Bud XL and Shooting Powder, and an entire liter of the Amino Boost. I was pretty stoked, he was out of the other fertilizer samples, but I'm sure if he had them all I wouldn't have had to spend a dime on my line up. Really cool dude. I do use ca/mg with the H&G, even if you use tap water you usually need it. All synthetic ca/mg supplements are all the same for the most part, so I use GroTeks because it is cheap. I do often have to go heavy on the feeding strength on ca/mg in week 4 of flower, I have never got just a plain old N deficiency, it would be more of a side effect next to the big calcium def I would get. Sometimes I had a little Sweet Raw to get a little extra Magnesium without extra Calcium. But back to what I was saying, Amino Boost is fucking tits, I highly recommend it. Definitely got fatter buds and happier plants.

Goin with HG for the first time now and can't complain. I live in San Diego and apparantly there are only a couple stores here that have "rights" to sell HG! Don't know what thats about. Anyway I agree the line is magnificent but I do add Cal/Mag as well and even upped it a little after finding signs of Mag def. I hope my initial Cal/Mag supplements 5mL/g didn't lock anything up and now Im overcompensating. Did you ever find out if Cal/Mag was in fact included in there nute line? Seems it would be pertinent info...

Add a little Sweet Raw or Sugar Daddy and it will give you extra mg without the extra ca which can give a bad flavor near the last week or 2 of harvest. But I used to give a full on tsp a gal, and at one time 1 1/2 tsp a gal with the H&G, so you shouldn't have lock out unless your plants are sensitive, my main crop of choice is a ca/mg whore so it's hard to give her too much. The bastards still don't have a a ca/mg supplement here in the states though, I don't know about else where, I think they do, but not here. Their is Calcium and Magnesium usually included in the B part of your base, so it is in there, but it's not enough most of the time. This is a major draw back to H&G in my opinion. If they want to boast that they are the shit, than they better have all their shit already available.

 

[Hulk Nugs]

Sick Jozikins, thanks for the feedback. Next trip i will check to see if the store by me has it fatter buds is always good. Keep growing strong.

 

[Jozikins]

Sick Jozikins, thanks for the feedback. Next trip i will check to see if the store by me has it fatter buds is always good. Keep growing strong.

Couldn't stop me if you tried

 

[unity]

Nice info jozikins!

 

[Hulk Nugs]

Flowers love the Magic Green though.

Wait i just read that agian, so you spray your buds/flowers with the magice green to? and you dont run into any problems because of it? Might have to try it on one plant first but dam never would have thought they would like it.

 

[Jozikins]

Wait i just read that agian, so you spray your buds/flowers with the magice green to? and you dont run into any problems because of it? Might have to try it on one plant first but dam never would have thought they would like it.

Yes sir, you sure can, buds do really well with foliar feeding as long as you properly pH it and keep the mist light. You need to raise your lamps way up or dim them for a two or three hours, make sure you foliar is well mixed, and make sure you have PLENTY OF AIR MOVING AROUND IN THAT GARDEN. PPM under 250 @.5 TDS factor, and PPM at 5.8-5.9, no wiggle room. I say 5.9 every time because the higher pH will prevent and destroy powdery mildew and rot. Remember, rot and mildew need a certain acidity to grow, even if a environment is a little too alkaline, the PM spores die when it comes into contact with the solution or sprayed surface of the plant. Healthy plant tissue will also discourage pests and insects from munching. Magic Green contains Potassium Silicate... I think, I'll have to double check that, but that stuff will help your plants survive more extreme temps and large temp shifts.

Always waft your Magic Green before each use, it goes bad fast. Once you mix it up, I highly recommend you use it all at once and discard the rest, it does not stay well at all when mixed up. It isn't very stable in the bottle it came in, it definitely isn't stable enough to hang out in your mister.

 

[Scion05]

Greetings all, just wanted to throw my two cents in.... I had really an interesting three crop experience with H&G soil nutrient line, after I corrected cal/mag and nitrogen deficiencies, and re-adjusted shooting powder dosages to my strains liking, and rinsing more than recommended for the final flush, I and a few friends who all agreed the taste of the smoke was no where near the quality I was producing prior to my experimenting, (they do not know what nutes I use) I gave it three shots and went back to all organic, the only product I would still recommend is their roots accelerator, but the price is high, you can get the same results from a product called M.O.A.B. (Mother of all bud) which is less expensive. Like I said just my two cents, to each his own and good luck too all!

 

[Jozikins]

Greetings all, just wanted to throw my two cents in.... I had really an interesting three crop experience with H&G soil nutrient line, after I corrected cal/mag and nitrogen deficiencies, and re-adjusted shooting powder dosages to my strains liking, and rinsing more than recommended for the final flush, I and a few friends who all agreed the taste of the smoke was no where near the quality I was producing prior to my experimenting, (they do not know what nutes I use) I gave it three shots and went back to all organic, the only product I would still recommend is their roots accelerator, but the price is high, you can get the same results from a product called M.O.A.B. (Mother of all bud) which is less expensive. Like I said just my two cents, to each his own and good luck too all!

After doing three crops of purely organic buds after using the H&G for roughly 2 years, I can absolutely agree with you that H&G gives buds a decent flavor if you know, and a great flavor if you don't know any better, but it is nothing like 100% organic cannabis. My buds smell, taste, and smoke smoother than ever, and they were award winners before that. A 10 day flush is mandatory with H&G, even with Drip Clean every time, I don't care what anybody on here says, it's because they haven't had some organically grown dank like me and you do. And I hate making blanket statements like that, but it's friggin true man. However, I have seen vast improvements with H&G and many other synthetic products when combined with a liquid compost tea, or other organic additives, a 50/50 ratio is totally gravy to me, still not quite as smooth, but real smooth anyways. I like how little you have to flush with organics and still get incredible results, I may used 1/3 to 1/2 the flush water I normally would and it still comes out extremely smooth and tasty.

However, MOAB, which is actually Mother of all Blooms, is not a replacement for Shooting Powder in my opinion. They both give incredible results, but nothing does it like Shooting Powder. I do have experience with MOAB, and it is easier to toast your plants with, and I wasn't as happy with the results, big fat fat fat buds though. Shooting Powder gives better density, and it is tough to burn plants with compared to other high P/K boosters. Roots Excelurator will never ever leave my garden, I agree.

I am switching back over to H&G in veg though, until I get vegging down with organics, because I just cannot keep them as happy as they are on the H&G in veg, not with BioBizz and my own soiless organic blend, which by definition I suppose would be potting mix. BioBizz is too expensive and I am looking elsewhere, and I am still experimenting with my soil, getting a lot better. I might even switch over to Flora Nova instead of H&G for veg, because I like how easy it is, and it gives great results. But god dammit BioBizz is expensive, fucking a.

You have any suggestions? Or do you go just off soil/potting mix and compost tea?

 

[a mongo frog]

is bio bizz even totally organic?
how could vegging with h&g be hard?
nothing compares to h&g imo. got to be the best priced nutes around.

 

[Jozikins]

is bio bizz even totally organic?
how could vegging with h&g be hard?
nothing compares to h&g imo. got to be the best priced nutes around.

I believe so, I've been messaging the rep, but always assumed it was from what I've read so far. I'll ask him right now, I don't think they wake up over on that side of the world until around 1 in the morning over here. But I know only a few products are OMRI certified by them, but OMRI has roughly a 30% leniency on non-organic matter.

Vegging with H&G is super easy! That is what I was trying to say, but I get redundant, lol. I've just seen the stems get fatter a little faster with the Flora Nova. This, like my results with the BioBizz, is variable depending on the grower. But my vegging plants are all much happier now that they are on H&G.

Unit price of H&G is fantastic, but after you have to buy all the additives it becomes a little pricey. Compared to BioBizz and their outrageous prices though, H&G is discount deluxe. The reason I am beginning to grow so fond of Flora Nova is that it is affordable and everything you need is in 2 bottles, grow and bloom. And you can use basically any bloom booster with it for bonker harvests, and you can still use it stand alone without additives and pull a respectable harvest of dense high quality cannabis. I am probably going to use the Shooting Powder, but I want to experiment with Awesome Blossoms by TechnaFlora, it isn't too expensive, and you can use it through out the flowering process and pull insane harvests, I've used it with the Technaflora line up and was extremely pleased, but Technaflora gave me watery tissue, but the plants were still soooo happy on it, very strong, incredibly thick, but incredibly watery stems. But this wasn't because of the Awesome Blossoms so I'm going to try mixing it up.

 

[a mongo frog]

heres my thinking, u can get the h&g whole flower line for under 200 bucks. 5 litter a and b base nutes, 1 litter bud xl, 1 litter multi zen, 1 litter top b., small drip, box of shooting powder.
with 6 grows a year thats around 33 bucks a run. give or take. maybe youll run shor of some thing. for the quallity of nutes they are its the cheapest around.

 

[Jozikins]

That's quite the statement, but I certainly agree that H&G is an excellent product at an excellent price. I am very satisfied with my results and the price I have payed. I haven't definitively decided one way or the other if I am going to go else where or stick with the H&G. But so far H&G has given me the best over all results.

But I feel all growers who haven't ventured out into organics should do it at least once. We all know how our buds taste, but most of us don't know how they are supposed to taste. It ain't as easy though, that's for sure. H&G is easy-peasie, just add a synthetic ca/mg supplement that contains N. Although I never had a N problem, others have reported it, Scion5 isn't the first person who has said it to me. My plants were a little heavy on the green side for me most of the time.

 

[Scion05]

Hey Jozikins, I have been down BioBizz road to a dissapointing grow, I shoulda known better when I read the NPK ratios... I had deficiencies I had never experienced besides the obvious lack of nitrogen, but I know people who like and use it, so they double or triple on their dosages for deficiencies and give BioBizz lots of cash...( I'm in the wrong business!) way too freakin' spendy to start with... I have used Flora Nova in the past with good results, I added additional cal/mag,silica, notrozyme and Floralicious/Flora Nectar during flower and amended my soil with bone meal, neem seed meal and mycorrhizae, tasty crop.
I agree that adding an organic tea to a synthetic fertilizer will help, and I understand people use synthetic nutes to get bigger crops but personally I am sticking with all organic from here on out, you get the best flavorful potent buds that the plant can possibly produce, period.
I have tasted some really nasty synthetic weed that gave me a hell of a head ache and I thought I was going to cough up a lung, how is that possibly good for people to smoke??!!
Nice chatting with you! And thanks for editing my MOAB error!

 

[Scion05]

Hey Jozikins, I have been down BioBizz road to a dissapointing grow, I shoulda known better when I read the NPK ratios... I had deficiencies I had never experienced besides the obvious lack of nitrogen, but I know people who like and use it, so they double or triple on their dosages for deficiencies and give BioBizz lots of cash...( I'm in the wrong business!) way too freakin' spendy to start with... I have used Flora Nova in the past with good results, I added additional cal/mag,silica, notrozyme and Floralicious/Flora Nectar during flower and amended my soil with bone meal, neem seed meal and mycorrhizae, tasty crop.
I agree that adding an organic tea to a synthetic fertilizer will help, and I understand people use synthetic nutes to get bigger crops but personally I am sticking with all organic from here on out, you get the best flavorful potent buds that the plant can possibly produce, period.
I have tasted some really nasty synthetic weed that gave me a hell of a head ache and I thought I was going to cough up a lung, how is that possibly good for people to smoke??!!
Nice chatting with you! And thanks for editing my MOAB error!​

 

[raindog]

Hey all, I'm on HG near the end of week two flower. I have three gal smart pots filled with coco/perlite 50/50 set in hydroton in an ebb/flow tray. When I moved the pots from veg they had healthy roots coming out the sides and bottom like crazy. Now I see dark roots and not much of them. So.. I found gnats on the roots and drenched with Azomax, then did this again
yesterday (4 days after the first drench). Also i have these little slugs, my hygroton must have picked up in pails outside !!!!

My question is How do i beef up my roots hoping that the Azamax did a good kill.
Azamax for slugs?? I am going with the HG chart but adding hygrozyme, Cal/mag.

My plan tonight when lights go on is to drench with Mykos and stronger hygrozyme in a half strength nute mix, maybe some more HG Roots.

This is my first grow, I'm working on 5 femed plants from seed to find the best mother for the next grow. Ha One turned male yesterday and I cut him out. Not Ha really as he almost got to the females, plus a hole in my scrog. I admit I have stressed these plants in all sorts of ways. Well, the mother winner will certianally have gone through the ringer as I get my education.

BTY the remaining 5 plants do look good despite of the root problem. They just need to
thicken up and getting the roots happy is a must.

Any sugestions on getting the roots back and also on slugs.

Mahalo,
raindog

 

[K11ng]

For raindog, not sure about the slugs and that doesn't sound to good for the ladies, but as far as the roots I would suggest picking up some great white ( benificial bacteria) and dose as instructed. Works great to keep roots healthy hope his helps good luck

 

[raindog]

For raindog, not sure about the slugs and that doesn't sound to good for the ladies, but as far as the roots I would suggest picking up some great white ( benificial bacteria) and dose as instructed. Works great to keep roots healthy hope his helps good luck

Thanks. But they can't sell GW here in Hawaii.