The New Majestic12 LED

CobKits

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So the process of documenting how my plants and specific strains respond to a specific light source from beginning to end not enough??
no not really. just another anecdotal grow. theres not a single person on here who doubts that LED light of almost any quality can raise plants through harvest. thats kind of where we were in 2007 or so with this technology. Any "issue" you could think of in terms of plant response, whether its metabolic rate, stretch, finish time, resin production, yield, quality, etc has been studied intensively already,under better controlled circumstances. and then tweaked and studied again and is well understood. You can say "well my plants had this response under this light." But you are still talking about a light with unknown efficiency, intensity, or spectrum. Without that data its basically just another anecdotal grow that doesnt advance the art in the slightest.

Wtf do u want a quadratic formula on the fuckin light?
some basic specs would be a start, havent seen a single real spec on this light on their site. We have no idea what the spectrum is. We have no idea what the system efficiency is.We have no idea what your input wattage is. a side by side with same strain(s) under hid accounting for the required environmental differences would be an improvement but theres still way too many unknowns with your light to draw any useful conclusions.

U want metrics charts etc they have a website for that.
Then link it. all i see on that site is the usual sales pitchy "our spectrum is proprietary and better than everyone elses" hyperbolic pitch, with NO efficiency specs whatsoever. Same as every other fly-by-night light manufacturer in the last decade. in 2018 the market is different than 2007. Consumers are educated. They dont want hyperbolic sales pitches about a magical proprietary spectrum. They want an actual spectral measurement, system efficiency numbers, and ideally to understand at a fundamental level which drivers and emitters are being used to get an idea of quality and longevity. Its a HUGE risk to buy a $1400 light from a company that has been around for 3 months. Chances of future warranty support are nil. Compare that to top shelf led manufacturers like Fluence who were providing system-level efficiency spec *years* ago. To the point that other companies light nextlight, california lightworks, pacific light concepts, HLG, chillled,etc were forced to start stating actual system efficiencies or go home. Particularly in 2018, any company that isnt presenting their actual test data probably knows exactly how efficient their lights are but know it is poor marketing to try to sell a light for over $1000 that people now understand is no more efficient than HID at a fraction of the cost

People around here are actually pretty reasonable, polite, and straightforward. But they have a very low tolerance for bullheaded people who already have their mind made up and refuse to accept the FACTS that have been accrued by hundreds of growers growing literally thousands of crops under LEDs in the last 5 years since the efficiency actually did start to exceed that of the industry-standard HIDs. If you wish to reinvent the wheel with your own data like its 2007, dont want to learn from the massive body of accrued data here, thats fine. There's absolutely nothing i just said above that wasnt covered in the first 3 pages of this thread, and then repeated again... and again.... (Edit: i actually didnt see till after i typed this, that nfhiggs already answered, basically stating in a more concise fashion the exact same things i said. But yet this thread will lurch on and we will see the same points posted several more times)

not to mention your newly minted sidekick who's main contribution are homophobic slurs and playground insults.

Dont wonder why people tire of this around here. This used to be the premier place to learn and share info, but BS like this thread drove a lot of the best people away.
 
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TheMadPharmer

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Too busy enjoying my home grown grass N processing it into lovey Oils. Id love to play sword fight with our cocks and what not but its gonna have to wait.
 

CobKits

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Id love to play sword fight with our cocks and what not but its gonna have to wait.
no interest. if you ever come up with any specs or data it would be worth the time. I'm literally discussing this with myself and the others while you plug your ears and go LALALALA, so theres really nothing to 'sword fight' about when you dont even understand the concepts we are debating.
 

Johnny Lawrence

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But seriously, you were called out to post specs. You can't - which nobody places on you, seeing as how the company can't either. You even posted that if we're looking for the info, we should look at the manufacturers site. They have no specs - unless we all suck that bad at the internet and you can provide a link?

If you have no real ties to this light, why are you defending it tooth and nail to the point where you're starting to come off as a total clown? Why not call this "brandon" guy out for the troll he really is?

What's in it for you?
 

growingforfun

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Too busy enjoying my home grown grass N processing it into lovey Oils. Id love to play sword fight with our cocks and what not but its gonna have to wait.
So you had to turn your crop to oil because it was garbage huh?

Sweet light I cant wait to rush out and buy 20 of them. Is there some way I can donate or tip you some money for sharing this VALUABLE grow log with us?
 

blowincherrypie

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If i could have been a Salesman I definitely could be awesome thanks to u all. I mean u guys continuously come in flock on to my page giving this light u all hate exposure. I accept constructive criticism excetera but this forum is the only for that I've ever been on that is full of Albert Einstein's and people with a hundred years of experience under their belt Engineers plant doctors Exedra you guys are a f****** joke. So you build your own lights I make meds m*********** in a lab for pharmaceutical companies big f****** deal. We're sitting here comparing apples to oranges. Those who compliment and offer advice I appreciate! those who are here just to talk s*** eat a dick or three. To be honest the light is not even mine I do not represent this company have not received the single penny I'm just growing man if hlg wanted to throw me a light for a grow on a terms that I return it back I'm down that goes for any company out there. And to the idiot that said the colors are from nutrient lockout, go read another book moron! it's due to low temps in my tent if it was nutrient lockout you would have noticed that in veg smh. Anyhow happy sunday Fuckers!!!
You started fading at week 4 and have barely put on any weight since then.. your shit is fucked up and its not just "low temps" and overpriced lights. If you get things dialed in Im sure the lights would do just fine.. Im not hating here but when your shit starts fading at week 4 and not stacking its usually because you're doing something wrong.. good luck.. asshole
 

Budzbuddha

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Lucky for me I’m a network engineer and manage close to 15 different businesses. Hold several certifications including comptia, Microsoft, and Cisco. I don’t need to sell lights. I do however know what’s good from experience. As you seen I posted a picture of one of my rooms running kinds lights. Currently I’m running a 630 cmh light once I resolve the issue with the ballast.
Tell the shill .... THAT’S LOORDHOOHA to you .... LORD ....... HOOHA ... good day I say.
 

Lordhooha

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Which reminds me I need to get my ballast in the mail. I need to get my test room back up so I can see if I want to get 4 more of these cmh lights for the other room.:bigjoint:
 

Lordhooha

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Obviously not a grower .....

Thinks it’s time to flush ... LED grows frequently run longer . 10 weekers ... plus
He said he’s flushing and getting ready to harvest I wouldn’t even be thinking about chopping those for at least 3 weeks. Most likely could go 4 depending how they’re looking.
 

TheMadPharmer

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Any
But seriously, you were called out to post specs. You can't - which nobody places on you, seeing as how the company can't either. You even posted that if we're looking for the info, we should look at the manufacturers site. They have no specs - unless we all suck that bad at the internet and you can provide a link?

If you have no real ties to this light, why are you defending it tooth and nail to the point where you're starting to come off as a total clown? Why not call this "brandon" guy out for the troll he really is?

What's
But seriously, you were called out to post specs. You can't - which nobody places on you, seeing as how the company can't either. You even posted that if we're looking for the info, we should look at the manufacturers site. They have no specs - unless we all suck that bad at the internet and you can provide a link?

If you have no real ties to this light, why are you defending it tooth and nail to the point where you're starting to come off as a total clown? Why not call this "brandon" guy out for the troll he really is?

What's in it for you?
Because i dont need to take shit from any of u. U expect me to stop posting and disapear. Muther fuckers gotta try harder if thats the case. You want specs visit their page. Half of u prpbably already have!! So what more do ya wamt other than to gang up on someone and talk shit. Lmao you all are comedy .
 
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