So what happens when one can not control their grow room conditions with LED? If you follow the likes of @Or_Gro and his grow there is a heater involved to try to keep environment. Are we aloud to add the 1000 watts to his grow as actual wattage and efficiency talks like you did when you compared A/C with hps growers?
Who gives a flyin f about watts, lol?
Were you just joking or?
Yah mon!.......mostly
And f’d up to no end...,
Simple question .... what are those pendulums for ?
Bet it has something to do with leveling lights.
Always get that one...the girls use it for meditation b4 they put their leaves up to Jah, The Almighty!
Was thinking some crystals and a pyramid might get me another g/w....maybe next grow...
Reading through this...jesus, lot of misinfo on both sides... tell me how much reef is grown outside where they have 65dli?
Read page 16 of the fluence doc posted on the 1st page...
Lol you seem annoyed for some reason.
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I recognize your support for led and other goodness, but i don’t appreciate misinformation!Lol you seem annoyed for some reason.
First off I'm fully in support of LEDs, and pushing grow tech into the future.
Secondly I'd have to dig for them (which I'm not doing on my phone) but I've read several papers about the suns light intensity over the years. I had a chart at one point that was measured in New Zealand. The sun reached nearly 2k ppfd but that was at its peak it averaged closer to 1500.
Obviously like you point out above dialing in our grows is the goal that gives the greatest final results.
What intensity levels do you run at?
My point was only that the sun is our bench mark for lighting. If the other limiting factors like temp and CO2 are in check then there is no reason we can't push for high ppfd. Plants grow outdoors with full sun intensity really well ever day all over the world
No there aren't many places with a 60+ dli outdoors. I didn't say there was... I simply stated some average numbers based on data gathered in a test. It would seem that 40-50 is the average DLI during the growing season in the majority of the US. Which still puts us between 900-1100ish ppfd.
I really think it would awesome to create a timed dimmer so we could really replicate a day night cycle indoors. I think it would be awesome to start the plants day at a low level and ramp it up to peak levels and then. Taper it back down to night time. But that would be unnecessarily complicated I think.
So any way don't be mad at me because I suggested that we should all aim for the sun! I'm not here to fight or argue. I'm not discussing light types.
Hell this whole thread was originally about the importance of spectrum vs intensity. Would you like to weigh in on the OP?
What I said wasn't really misinformation though. I stated an accurate number from a test result. I stated that as a number for the sun. And I said simply that the sun is our bench mark. I do appreciate the further info you've brought to the thread. Thanks for encouraging my research too. I did read that link from the beginning of the thread about high ppfd growing, I actually saved it for later use too
I like to learn. Your plants look awesome and obviously your pulling yields.
You seem like a nice enuff guy. All the best to you.What I said wasn't really misinformation though. I stated an accurate number from a test result. I stated that as a number for the sun. And I said simply that the sun is our bench mark. I do appreciate the further info you've brought to the thread. Thanks for encouraging my research too. I did read that link from the beginning of the thread about high ppfd growing, I actually saved it for later use too
I'm still not sure exactly why you seem so annoyed by and fixated on my comments that simply encouraged all is to maximize our potential in our gardens. But I still hope you have a great night and a green garden sir. I'm sorry that someone tagged you and bothered your night.