The harvest flush yea or no

it's different in nature. we aren't replicating nature, we try to improve on it. the reason plants look the way theu do, outside, at the end of the growing season, is due to the season change. light amounts are reduced, and lighting hours as well are reduced. not may people use less light in 12/12 than veg, they would do this if they really were trying to replicate nature. as the light trapers off, the temperatures drop, including soil temps. the roots are less efficient when cold, less nutrient uptake. seems like a natural taper, not a flush, in nature. flushing is for toilets. just saying.

nonamedman420 said:

find a tobacco farmer who flushes their plants, which get smoked. they do it completely different.

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So you're telling me tobacco farmers feed nutrients up until the day they harvest. Have you talked to many tobacco farmers? I bet they grow completely different then pot. We don't smoke tobacco buds, we smoke the leaves. Either way after processing the tobacco they add so many more chemicals to it anyway, I hardly doubt you could tell one way or the other.

Also, to that i could say they dont grow tobacco indoors so.

Lol
I feed basically 1 time a week
Water, water, feed
And I skip the very last one.

Please don't tell a scientist on me

For the record.
I don't withhold that last week for reason of taste.

Its mostly because im cutting the shit down and by the time I decide to take them they are already finished.
No need to fuck with food

Never said the smoke tasting smoother was scientific proof the bud tastes better.
It's a personal observation.
I only really get 3 phenotype with my seeds. They all taste better with a flush right at the end.
To the point. It makes such a difference that I'm never, not going to taper, then flush, ever again.

Do fruits not feed on the plant, before they ripen, then fall?

If there was higher salts content in the soil during translocation. Don't you think the nutrients inside the plant would be prioritized for the fruit??? Isn't that what fruiting plants do? What's the point in vegging any longer, if you're an annual plant which has fruit already?

I know what sodium tastes like in my tomato.
Why should mineral salts be any different? Isn't sea salt loaded with the stuff?

I realise curing is just as important too. For myself it's the first mark of quality. I realise the smell that smells so good during curing. Is from the same bacteria feeding on the plant when it's alive too. Breaking down the sugar. I could harp on all day about how to cure properly. But I'll give the benefit of doubt to newer growers that they know how too.
Why can't plants smell alive, and dead too?

Mine smell like sweet cream and skunk when fresh. Smells like sweet orange when dry, and tastes like passion fruit soda.
The measure of whether I cured properly is in its taste and smell. Put it this way. If I don't, the smoke doesn't taste like passion fruit. It tastes exactly like I microwaved instead.

I'm saying flush when your trichomes are ready. Then harvest the damn thing. That's it.

Not saying starve either. But taper. If ec is rising. Because you'll lock up. It is counter productive to starve her.

Aolelon said:

So you're telling me tobacco farmers feed nutrients up until the day they harvest. Have you talked to many tobacco farmers? I bet they grow completely different then pot. We don't smoke tobacco buds, we smoke the leaves. Either way after processing the tobacco they add so many more chemicals to it anyway, I hardly doubt you could tell one way or the other.

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you pointed out farmers not smoking their product. i pointed out one that does get smoked. it can be grown indoors. everything about how they cure and then dry, is different then how we dry then cure. and this totally ignores sinks and sources. buds are sinks. sinks don't give back, they are sinks. flush all you want, buds will be what they are.

nonamedman420 said:

you pointed out farmers not smoking their product. i pointed out one. it can be grown indoors. everything about how they cure and then dry, is different then how we dry then cure. and this totally ignores sinks and sources. buds are sinks. sinks don't give back, they are sinks. flush all you want, buds will be what they are.

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It can be grown indoors, yes, but its not. I pointed out that we dont smoke fruits and shit that we grow, because you tried to make the observation that we do, which is also not true.

nonamedman420 said:

you pointed out farmers not smoking their product. i pointed out one that does get smoked. it can be grown indoors. everything about how they cure and then dry, is different then how we dry then cure. and this totally ignores sinks and sources. buds are sinks. sinks don't give back, they are sinks. flush all you want, buds will be what they are.

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Either way, idk this isnt a thread about you trying to convince me. Buds are not sinks, they are buds. The only real way for me to find out for myself would be to try it myself. I more or less wanted to know what everyone did before harvesting.

page 84 here: https://pubs.ext.vt.edu/content/dam/pubs_ext_vt_edu/436/436-050-08/PDF_436-050.pdf talks about curing GREEN tobacco. they fertilize until harves in this edu.pdf about growing and curing tobacco. not being argumentative, there is so much misinformation passed around, and people don't realize it. i doubt it's on purpose, it happens with info about things that are semi-illegal.

buds are sinks. look it up.

I'm not too concerned about tobacco either way, we smoke 2 completely different parts of the plants

Aolelon said:

I'm not too concerned about tobacco either way, we smoke 2 completely different parts of the plants

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ok man. sorry for wasting your time. and nobody smoke pot leaves. guess we trim 100% of all leaves, even sugar leaves in the buds. go figure

nonamedman420 said:

ok man. sorry for wasting your time.

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No your good, thank you for the information. I'll look it up. Appreciate it. Happy growing.

and sorry if i come across like a dick sometimes. people rarely want to learn, instead they'll ask 10 people until they get the answer they wanted, especially when it comes to growing this plant.

i get frustrated sometimes. you can't tell a troll from someone who simply doesn't know sometimes. easy to think you're getting trolled here. i love the ignore feature, had to ignore a pirate earlier who insisted everyone who won't put a candle in their grow room is either retarded, or a candle hater. probable been up 5 days shooting his mouth off, and when nobody responded, he necro'd posts pages back just to shittalk. f'em right? i just wanna learn the right stuff, and pass that info along so nobody has to pay $400 an oz ever again.

Sorry I guess with just so much different mixed information it kind of creates a biased feeling, which is what I dont want going In to this. I totally agree that if you dont overfeed, there should be no reason to not be able to feed up until harvest.

Aolelon said:

So you're telling me tobacco farmers feed nutrients up until the day they harvest. Have you talked to many tobacco farmers? I bet they grow completely different then pot. We don't smoke tobacco buds, we smoke the leaves. Either way after processing the tobacco they add so many more chemicals to it anyway, I hardly doubt you could tell one way or the other.

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Yes they do. Green and healthy to the end. I grew up in tobacco fields.




Flushing is myth. You can't flush nutrients from a plant. Only the medium. Immobile nutrients don't move and the mobile ones move from the yellow leaves to the green bud.

The smoothness is from proper dry and cure. Not flushing.

nonamedman420 said:

and sorry if i come across like a dick sometimes. people rarely want to learn, instead they'll ask 10 people until they get the answer they wanted, especially when it comes to growing this plant.

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Nah I'm all for more reading, and information. Like I said this is probably one of the most widely discussed controversial topics out there, so really the only thing can do your brain justice is experimentation.

whitebb2727 said:

Yes they do. Green and healthy to the end. I grew up in tobacco fields.




Flushing is myth. You can't flush nutrients from a plant. Only the medium. Immobile nutrients don't move and the mobile ones move from the yellow leaves to the green bud.

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Thank you for clarifying