the funny thing about yield..

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

HomeLessBeans said:
Not sure what you want to do here Brutha. Kinda whipped, n medicated.

My dude who flips and pulled 1.5 is Runnin titian hydro. H&G full line, established genetics.

gladstoned said:
If you would do a journal I will get you the seeds. I have ebb n gro, but was saving it for my no name. I would love to get 1 gram per watt with organic soil.

I have 2 journals going on the seed depot forum. I just saw the Homeless beans thread. No shit! I am sure some riu members will love what you are doing.
http://forum.theseeddepot.com/showthread.php?337-HomeLess-Beans&p=2939#post2939
Awesome homeless.

Buddy Ganga · May 18, 2012

Wattage per sq foot doesn't have nearly as much to do with yield as many people think.

Gravity.. Creates rock hard nugs that weight 3 and 4 times more then the same size nugs.
Spray your plants down with "Bricks" a week and a half before you harvest, this alone will increase your yields 10 to 20%.

I'm using lets wattage and vegging less, flowering smaller plants and yielding more per plant every harvest.

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

I just ordered a bottle of gravity. (Hope that shit doesn't cause cancer)
Are you talking about brix?

st0wandgrow · May 18, 2012

Buddy Ganga said:
Wattage per sq foot doesn't have nearly as much to do with yield as many people think.

Gravity.. Creates rock hard nugs that weight 3 and 4 times more then the same size nugs.
Spray your plants down with "Bricks" a week and a half before you harvest, this alone will increase your yields 10 to 20%.

I'm using lets wattage and vegging less, flowering smaller plants and yielding more per plant every harvest.

Put 4 plants under a 1000 watt hps, and 4 plants under a 400 watt hps and what do you think the results will be?

Buddy Ganga · May 18, 2012

Brix, mixed with floralicious plus as a finishing spray...
Try some crystal bust too. Makes the tricones explode..

Buddy Ganga · May 18, 2012

st0wandgrow said:
Put 4 plants under a 1000 watt hps, and 4 plants under a 400 watt hps and what do you think the results will be?

People need to learn how to cultivate the plants that all.
Take any normal gardener as an example, one can produce huge crops of veggies while his neighbor does ok for himself.
Same sun and rain, but different cultivations skills.

There is no doubt in my mind that I can out grow most 1000 watt growers with 600's.
Not only will my yields be higher the quality will be too.

ballin174 · May 18, 2012

Buddy Ganga said:
Spray your plants down with "Bricks" a week and a half before you harvest, this alone will increase your yields 10 to 20%.

I never spray any products on my plants once I begin flowering... Especially on the last week. You will loose trichomes and ruin the flavor for very little gain in weight.

Buddy Ganga · May 18, 2012

ballin174 said:
I never spray any products on my plants once I begin flowering... Especially on the last week. You will loose trichomes and ruin the flavor for very little gain in weight.

Well now, how can you be so sure if you've never tried it ?

I was skeptical too and it took me several harvest before I broke down and tried it.
Since it goes against everything I was taught I need a little encouragement.
Fact is it improved both.

st0wandgrow · May 18, 2012

Buddy Ganga said:
People need to learn how to cultivate the plants that all.
Take any normal gardener as an example, one can produce huge crops of veggies while his neighbor does ok for himself.
Same sun and rain, but different cultivations skills.

There is no doubt in my mind that I can out grow most 1000 watt growers with 600's.
Not only will my yields be higher the quality will be too.

Cultivation skills are one thing. Spraying your plants with some magic potion that will increase yield by 3 to 4 times is another.

The guys at the local hydro shop must love you!

tomcatjones · May 18, 2012

Buddy Ganga said:
Wattage per sq foot doesn't have nearly as much to do with yield as many people think.

Gravity.. Creates rock hard nugs that weight 3 and 4 times more then the same size nugs.
Spray your plants down with "Bricks" a week and a half before you harvest, this alone will increase your yields 10 to 20%.

I'm using lets wattage and vegging less, flowering smaller plants and yielding more per plant every harvest.

paclobutrazol.

Gravity is NOT GOOD FOR YOU.

tomcatjones · May 18, 2012

gladstoned said:
I just ordered a bottle of gravity. (Hope that shit doesn't cause cancer)
Are you talking about brix?

CANCEL YOUR ORDER!

shit dude... i have a bottle of snowstorm sitting here doing... nothing - if you want it.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/459639-warning-carcinogens-found-humboldt-countys.html

-i read that entire thread one time. lol

st0wandgrow · May 18, 2012

tomcatjones said:
CANCEL YOUR ORDER!

shit dude... i have a bottle of snowstorm sitting here doing... nothing - if you want it.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/459639-warning-carcinogens-found-humboldt-countys.html

-i read that entire thread one time. lol

Thanks for posting that tom. Everyone growing should read that thread.

I would never spray anything on my plants that I wasn't 100% certain was straight up organic .... especially to increase yield. It's just not worth it.

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

Lol. I almost ordered this several times. I have been using fox farm and bushwhacker nutes. It is the same shit in the Fox Farm full line. I doubt it causes cancer and I know several people that use it. I have thought for a long time about foliage feeding and I think it is important. I will use it on part of my garden to test. I am going to build several bud rooms. Some will be true organic soil that will never see any shit like this regardless of how it works. On a hydro set-up with full line-up of chemical nutes, honestly, it could all be cancerous outside of organic.
Is it possible to use a product to triple the harvest in order to battle cancer, but by doing so increase the spread of cancer?! That is kinda counter-productive. I think this is like, eggs are bad for you, nope now eggs are good for you. Real butter is bad, nope good. Carbs are bad, oh nope, they are good. That kinda shit.

BuildBigBudz · May 18, 2012

Guitar guy said:
This is not always the case though. A plant can only grow and sustain so much bud. For a tent grow, yes, you are correct. But for the guys that supply to dispensaries and push pounds, I bet the amount of plants makes a huge difference on yield.

Also growing technique comes into play when talking about yield. Actually, so many things come into play its ridiculous

That's not exactly true. If you SCROG grew 3 plants in a tent you could possibly push a pound easy

Buddy Ganga · May 18, 2012

st0wandgrow said:
Cultivation skills are one thing. Spraying your plants with some magic potion that will increase yield by 3 to 4 times is another.

The guys at the local hydro shop must love you!

They sure do, so much they give me deals on everything I buy and other shit for free.
And you might do better quoting me rather then spinning and changing what I posted for what ever dramatic effect it is you're looking for.

tomcatjones · May 18, 2012

gladstoned said:
Lol. I almost ordered this several times. I have been using fox farm and bushwhacker nutes. It is the same shit in the Fox Farm full line. I doubt it causes cancer and I know several people that use it. I have thought for a long time about foliage feeding and I think it is important. I will use it on part of my garden to test. I am going to build several bud rooms. Some will be true organic soil that will never see any shit like this regardless of how it works. On a hydro set-up with full line-up of chemical nutes, honestly, it could all be cancerous outside of organic.
Is it possible to use a product to triple the harvest in order to battle cancer, but by doing so increase the spread of cancer?! That is kinda counter-productive. I think this is like, eggs are bad for you, nope now eggs are good for you. Real butter is bad, nope good. Carbs are bad, oh nope, they are good. That kinda shit.

well if you watched the two vids.. basically yeah i'm telling you that all that shit is bad for you. to be a super human you would be consuming fresh fruits and veggies within 20 minutes with a really bad ass juicer and then exercising of course.

after learning everything I've realized this. you have to be in the mindset to cure first. the mind is very powerful but also you must provide for the body to cure itself.

and that is the lesson from juicing cannabis, fruits and veggies and using rso.. you are providing the correct environment for the body to heal itself.

our immune systems are amazing.

i'm not going to spray paclobutrazol on my plants or in the ground and hope that when i inhale it later it will be safe.. if i used those leaves for juicing with never spraying.. that may be one thing. but i will not smoke those buds in the future when i can self sustain on organically growing.

i'm not a pro. but i'm learning and i decided to scrap chemical nutes and bottled nutes in general. love, water, and the proper food web.

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

I set up (2) 2x3x5 tents next to each other in the closet of my office, just to try shit out like this. Set it up on 4/20. Belle liked the office and is talking about office-jacking me. That is why vs. thread isn't going. I have been thinking about the gravity. I read Buddy's post, like half a dozen clicks that shit was heading north. I was leaning toward doing a 12-1 light schedule vs. traditional schedule. I think the timing will be Dr. Greenthumb Bubba OG plants also, which is absolutely perfect. Those are bad-ass nugs without the gravity.
Let me find the pics and bump the thread.

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

tomcatjones said:
well if you watched the two vids.. basically yeah i'm telling you that all that shit is bad for you. to be a super human you would be consuming fresh fruits and veggies within 20 minutes with a really bad ass juicer and then exercising of course.

after learning everything I've realized this. you have to be in the mindset to cure first. the mind is very powerful but also you must provide for the body to cure itself.

and that is the lesson from juicing cannabis, fruits and veggies and using rso.. you are providing the correct environment for the body to heal itself.

our immune systems are amazing.

i'm not going to spray paclobutrazol on my plants or in the ground and hope that when i inhale it later it will be safe.. if i used those leaves for juicing with never spraying.. that may be one thing. but i will not smoke those buds in the future when i can self sustain on organically growing.

i'm not a pro. but i'm learning and i decided to scrap chemical nutes and bottled nutes in general. love, water, and the proper food web.

I give away seeds, cuttings, flowers, tincture, all kinds of shit. I am going through small plants searching for the right strains. I decided to do that before I started. I have had several people waiting for me to kick ass at producing great medical cannabis. It is ridiculous up here with the demand for meds. I am harvesting plants early just to keep up. I am going to do about half of my grow using hydroponic and the other half organic soil. I will not juice leaves off of my plants that I dump like ten bottles of bullshit on that salts up on everything. That is crazy as hell.
That may make me p.o.s., but I have thought long and hard about this. I do not have jars of buds stacked up here. I think making rso with hydroponic buds that I used gravity on for yield, is better than taking clean leaves and making tincture. That is kinda where I am at. I do not profit off medical cannabis. I am partially here to learn, partially here to teach, and partially here to stay honest. Even in arguments online, I still go off and think about that shit.
It's late for me, I may not be explaining myself clearly. That happens sometimes. lol.

tomcatjones · May 18, 2012

gladstoned said:
I give away seeds, cuttings, flowers, tincture, all kinds of shit. I am going through small plants searching for the right strains. I decided to do that before I started. I have had several people waiting for me to kick ass at producing great medical cannabis. It is ridiculous up here with the demand for meds. I am harvesting plants early just to keep up. I am going to do about half of my grow using hydroponic and the other half organic soil. I will not juice leaves off of my plants that I dump like ten bottles of bullshit on that salts up on everything. That is crazy as hell.
That may make me p.o.s., but I have thought long and hard about this. I do not have jars of buds stacked up here. I think making rso with hydroponic buds that I used gravity on for yield, is better than taking clean leaves and making tincture. That is kinda where I am at. I do not profit off medical cannabis. I am partially here to learn, partially here to teach, and partially here to stay honest. Even in arguments online, I still go off and think about that shit.
It's late for me, I may not be explaining myself clearly. That happens sometimes. lol.

i'm with you man - i just hope one day medical cannabis won't be from a bottle of death.. regardless of the plant it goes to.

gladstoned · May 18, 2012

Just finished the first movie. I think I am going to do that.
....I am extremely tired and medicated though. Just bought a new grill. Timing is all fucked up. lmao. j/k kinda

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