The forbidden TRUTH

Ceepea

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The law of conservation of mass, or principle of mass conservation, states that for any system closed to all transfers of matter andenergy (both of which have mass), the mass of the system must remain constant over time, as system mass cannot change quantity if it is not added or removed. Hence, the quantity of mass is "conserved" over time. The law implies that mass can neither be created nor destroyed, although it may be rearranged in space, or the entities associated with it may be changed in form, as for example when light orphysical work is transformed into particles that contribute the same mass to the system as the light or work had contributed. The law implies (requires) that during any chemical reaction, nuclear reaction, or radioactive decay in an isolated system, the total mass of the reactants or starting materials must be equal to the mass of the products.

No you can't create or destroy things.
But GOD being THE ONE who made the all Laws of the creation can. LOL
What evidence do you have that shows matter isn't eternal? And what evidence do you have that shows god has created matter?
 

Ceepea

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So Matter can't come from nothing yet it's here. This is a fact. Like you said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
So something has created matter that doesn't apply to these Laws.
GOD is a name for HIM that has that power. GOD's existence is evident to us by virtually every living thing on this planet.
Right, matter can't come from nothing, therefore it's always existed.

But anti-matter and matter create 'no matter' and some gamma radiation.... so matter + anti-matter = no matter.
 

ghostdriver

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Right, matter can't come from nothing, therefore it's always existed.

But anti-matter and matter create 'no matter' and some gamma radiation.... so matter + anti-matter = no matter.
"Anti matter" as we call it is not nothing. It's anti matter here is a explanation

In particle physics, antimatter is material composed of antiparticles, which have the same mass as particles of ordinary matter but have oppositecharge and other particle properties such as lepton and baryon number. Encounters between particles and antiparticles lead to the annihilation of both, giving rise to varying proportions of high-energy photons (gamma rays), neutrinos, and lower-mass particle–antiparticle pairs. Setting aside the mass of any product neutrinos, which represent released energy which generally continues to be unavailable, the end result of annihilation is a release of energy available to do work, proportional to the total matter and antimatter mass, in accord with the mass-energy equivalence equation,E=mc2.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

Also you seemed confused on gamma ray's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray

So as we can see it is not nothing.


Lets look at the link you just sent me for example.


"The basic question what is a vacuum, and what is nothing, goes beyond science," he said. "It's embedded deeply in the base not only of theoretical physics, but of our philosophical perception of everything -- of reality, of life, even the religious question of could the world have come from nothing."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208130038.htm

So like I said it is impossible that GOD didn't create mankind, earth, and everything which has ever been created.

Something can't appear from nothing

Yet WE are here.

So therefore something that has power over these Laws made you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
 

ghostdriver

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
The Club motto is "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here," which implies that outside concerns and business deals are to be left outside. When gathered in groups, Bohemians usually adhere to the injunction, though discussion of business often occurs between pairs of members.[2] Important political and business deals have been developed at the Grove.[5]
The Grove is particularly famous for a Manhattan Project planning meeting that took place there in September 1942, which subsequently led to the atomic bomb.
Those attending this meeting included Ernest Lawrence, U.C. Berkeley colleague Robert Oppenheimer, various military officials, the S-1 Committee heads such as the presidents of Harvard, Yale andPrinceton along with representatives of Standard Oil and General Electric. At the time, Oppenheimer was not an official S-1 member due to security clearance troubles with the U.S. wartime Government, though Lawrence and Oppenheimer hosted the meeting.[8] Grove members take particular pride in this event and often relate the story to new attendees.[2]
 
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Ceepea

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"Anti matter" as we call it is not nothing. It's anti matter here is a explanation

In particle physics, antimatter is material composed of antiparticles, which have the same mass as particles of ordinary matter but have oppositecharge and other particle properties such as lepton and baryon number. Encounters between particles and antiparticles lead to the annihilation of both, giving rise to varying proportions of high-energy photons (gamma rays), neutrinos, and lower-mass particle–antiparticle pairs. Setting aside the mass of any product neutrinos, which represent released energy which generally continues to be unavailable, the end result of annihilation is a release of energy available to do work, proportional to the total matter and antimatter mass, in accord with the mass-energy equivalence equation,E=mc2.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

Also you seemed confused on gamma ray's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray

So as we can see it is not nothing.


Lets look at the link you just sent me for example.


"The basic question what is a vacuum, and what is nothing, goes beyond science," he said. "It's embedded deeply in the base not only of theoretical physics, but of our philosophical perception of everything -- of reality, of life, even the religious question of could the world have come from nothing."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208130038.htm

So like I said it is impossible that GOD didn't create mankind, earth, and everything which has ever been created.

Something can't appear from nothing

Yet WE are here.

So therefore something that has power over these Laws made you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
I never said anti-matter was nothing. I said matter + anti-matter = no matter.

Nothing you've stated even comes close to being evidence that god created everything.

Matter has always existed in some form. You cannot prove that matter has ever been created or destroyed, if you could you would demonstrate it instead of posting bullshit that has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

Matter + antimatter = no matter. Matter an anti-matter annihilate each other.
 
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Ceepea

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India has a number of messengers who were divinely conceived and two of them bore the name “Chrishna” or “Chrishna the Saviour” (note the similarity with Christ). Now Chrishna was born of a chaste virgin called Devaki, Who on account of her purity was selected to become the mother of God.

Buddha was considered and believed by his followers to have been begotten of God and born of a virgin whose name was Maya. Long before the Christian era, we read of how the divine power called the” Holy Ghost” descended upon virgin Maya. In ancient Chinese version of the story, the holy ghost is called Shing-Shin.

The Siamese (Taiwan), had a God and saviour who was Virgin Born whom they called Codom. In this very ancient story, the beautiful Virgin had been informed in advance that she was to become the mother of a great messenger of God, and one day while in her usual period of meditation and prayer, she was impregnated by divine sun beams. When the boy was born, he grew up in a remarkable manner, became a protégé of wisdom and performed miracles.

When the first Jesuit priest visited china, they wrote in their reports at finding a heathen religion of that country, of a story of a redeeming saviour who was born of a Virgin and divinely conceived. The God was said to have been born 3468 B.C (before Christ), his name was Lao-Tsze and was said to have been born of a virgin black in complexion and as beautiful as a Jasper.

In Egypt, long before the Christian era, and before any of its doctrine was conceived, the Egyptian people had several messengers of God, who were conceived through Immaculate Conception. Horus was known to all of ancient Egypt as having been born of the virgin Isis and his conception and birth was considered one of the three great mysteries or mystical doctrines of the Egyptian religion. To then every incident in connection with the conception and birth of Horus was pictured, sculptured, adored and worshiped as the incidents of the conception and birth of Jesus is among the Christians today. Another Egyptian God called Ra was also conceived by a Virgin.

The story of "Jesus' and virgin birth, pre-dates Christianity by thousands and thousands of years.

The 'golden rule' pre-dates Christianity and Jesus by centuries.....

Ever wonder where the resurrection story and "Easter' came from?

Tammuz: ancient nature deity worshiped in Babylonia. A god of agriculture and flocks, he personified the creative powers of spring. He was loved by the fertility goddess Ishtar, who, according to one legend, was so grief-stricken at his death that she contrived to enter the underworld to get him back. According to another legend, she killed him and later restored him to life. These legends and his festival, commemorating the yearly death and rebirth of vegetation, corresponded to the festivals of the Phoenician and Greek Adonis and of the Phrygian Attis. The Sumerian name of Tammuz was Dumuzi. In the Bible his disappearance is mourned by the women of Jerusalem (Ezek. 8.14).(The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001)

Attis, in Phrygian religion, vegetation god. ...Like Adonis, Attis came to be worshiped as a god of vegetation, responsible for the death and rebirth of plant life. Each year at the beginning of spring his resurrection was celebrated in a festival. In Roman religion he became a powerful celestial deity. (The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001)
 

ghostdriver

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The Son of GOD wasn't conceived by a father or mother he was born a virgin and was with GOD before creation. GOD made creation through HIS Son


HAHAHAHA
They said have developed equations to suggest rip apart molecules and make what they call a vacuum not nothing. LOL
At the heart of this work is the idea that a vacuum is not exactly nothing.

"It is better to say, following theoretical physicist Paul Dirac, that a vacuum, or nothing, is the combination of matter and antimatter -- particles and antiparticles.Their density is tremendous, but we cannot perceive any of them because their observable effects entirely cancel each other out," Sokolov said.


"The basic question what is a vacuum, and what is nothing, goes beyond science," he said. "It's embedded deeply in the base not only of theoretical physics, but of our philosophical perception of everything -- of reality, of life, even the religious question of could the world have come from nothing."


What your religion calls logic and reason for believing the impossible
1. Animals are built a certain way based on there function - LOL truth yet this screams creation not darwinism bacteria people.
2. Living matter is somewhat similar on a molecular level. -Doesn't suggest darwins theory LOL but yes organic material is somewhat similar when compared to sand, metal, water, oxygen.
3. In certain whales sometimes abnormal bone growth has been found on their pelvic bone which is a average a inch. On a eighty foot whale. And all animals and people can have abnormal growth where numerous complex bones grow. Like I had with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sever's_disease or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoliosis- So this is true
You then just assume? The rest of your theory on what? LOL
From those three things you leaned that man and all living things started as the same organism? And that THE HOLY BIBLE isn't true?
WHAT! lets re-read darwins "facts" lol facts that don't suggest his theory in anyway. ^^^
Lets go over the Right whales and Sperm Whales bones again.

Your responses leave me in shame over mankind. A small growth sometimes appears in right whales and sperm whales and is typically a inch and you start to deny GOD.
Everhard Johannes Slijper (1907–1968) was professor of general zoology at Amsterdam University, Netherlands. He was the world’s leading authority on whales. Chapter 2 of his classic work is entitled ‘Evolution and External Appearance.’ In it, he talks about a bone in whales that he calls the ‘pelvic bone,’ which is some 30 centimetres (12 inches) long, ‘but unlike the pelvis of normal mammals it is not attached to the vertebral column.’ This bone serves as an anchorage for the male reproductive organs. Slijper goes on to say that sometimes ‘another small bone may be attached to it.’ Being an evolutionist, he naturally interprets this smaller piece of bone as a throw-back to the femur, or thigh bone, of the whale’s evolutionary ancestor. However, he states that in these occasional cases, the bone in question is generally 2.5 cm (just over an inch) in length, and that it is sometimes ‘fused’ with the pelvic bone.
Note how to this point he has not mentioned anything about a ‘leg’ protruding from a whale’s side. The evidence so far fits just as easily with the idea that some whales (who normally have functional bones in their pelvic region, as he admits) can be born with abnormal bits of bone. There is a complex DNA program which causes the development of the normal bone in this part of the whale’s anatomy. A mutational defect in this program could easily cause one or more extra pieces of bone to form, which would almost inevitably be in the same region, either separate from or fused with the normal bone. In the same way, people can be born with extra fingers, ribs, nipples, etc. If this should extend to two extra pieces of bone, no matter how misshapen or otherwise these were, enthusiastic evolutionists would no doubt interpret one additional piece of bone as a ‘femur,’ and any second one would be labeled a ‘tibia’ (shin bone). Sure enough, Slijper refers to an occasional third bony structure attached to what he has already called a ‘femur’ and labels it as a ‘tibia.’ It occurs in some Right whales and occasionally in some Sperm whales.

Lets talk about some of the impossible things you claim happen because of those three things you observed in the world.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
And Light and water and man and women who physical design is completely exposed to the elements and if we were to attempt to live like "animals" we would die, from too much sun exposure or frostbite and hypothermia. But you claim that we are all one super organism and mankind just decided to do what?Mankind is completely different WOW mankind must of been thinking some happy thoughts? Do thoughts change species form one to another? You are claiming that, Claiming that and then that "law" suddenly changed.
And elephants decided to want to be big? How? Did the "think real big?
This is painful that people believe this blaspheme trash. I think the only reason is because their pride of "i'm perfect and do nothing wrong" contradicts with the truth so they just choose not to involve themselves with the truth, the unavoidable, unstoppable, impending truth.
And light and water and man and women the sun and moon, clouds... and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop coming from nothing and you don't question how they could do this? Or where they came from? Or why you are physically made the way you are?
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now? And appearing from nothing? Because in reality things don't appear from nothing randomly unless it's made. Things don't switch species when becoming extinct. They just die, and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets. Shark's, butterflies, scorpions you think came from this same (super organism) that became billions of species and animals based upon what they chose to do while alive. What did the butterfly do to became what it is? What about the shark? What if I want my family to start becoming butterfly people for millions of years later in generation? Best advice?
Or maybe becoming a water melon or marijuana since they are are relative in your religion, you guys got a lot of half melon people in your darwin following?
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.

Real questions for you^
And you choose to ignore and deny all of these facts because..
Because creatures develop abnormalities on there bone!! Not everyone but some in rare occasions
Also I asked people if they smoked marijuana because from my experience people who don't worship GOD can't handle the increase cognitive thoughts that are as associated with marijuana.
bho poison hash doesn't count as marijuana your smoking poison http://www.hempcity.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3627
you not getting high you're getting poisoned. Obviously some illuminati idea to kill smokers or to have BHO kill kids so marijuana can become illegal again.

"You think because GOD ALMIGHTY is the beginning and the end, you can state that the universe can be the same because it's following the same principal? That's completely erroneous. The only reason GOD is before everything is because GOD is a living omnipotent being that you cannot fathom. Before the beginning GOD was."- page 43 Matter lacks the ability to create something from nothing.


Ceepea : "No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed. "

Me:- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
 
Actually, he said that matter cannot be created or destroyed. I don't claim that to be true, but it is possible that matter always just exists.

All though if matter does always exists and it's infinite then through infinite change an arrangement of that matter could potentially create a god-like intellect. What is intellect besides and arrangement of matter anyway?
 

ghostdriver

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Only GOD has the POWER to create, it would be against the laws of reality that you, marijuana, and your'e Dog came from nothing.
I have shown you ALL over and over that one single microscopic organism cannot change into all of these things.
fact, spamming doesn't change that your darwin cult of denying creation IS impossible.
Want to know why other religions like muslim, catholic's, witnesses, buddhist, and mormons are wrong? -I leave all of these religions un capitalized on purpose for my own pleasure. LOL
Even these Church's that say they follow all THE HOLY BIBLE are lying. Real Church's are few and far in between, better of to just get one true friend who worships GOD in truth.
Church's avoid the TRUTH about Hell to continue to have growth in their church to make more money.


17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Proverbs
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Matthew (Son of GOD talking)
 

thepenofareadywriter

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Only GOD has the POWER to create, it would be against the laws of reality that you, marijuana, and your'e Dog came from nothing.
I have shown you ALL over and over that one single microscopic organism cannot change into all of these things.
fact, spamming doesn't change that your darwin cult of denying creation IS impossible.
Want to know why other religions like muslim, catholic's, witnesses, buddhist, and mormons are wrong? -I leave all of these religions un capitalized on purpose for my own pleasure. LOL
Even these Church's that say they follow all THE HOLY BIBLE are lying. Real Church's are few and far in between, better of to just get one true friend who worships GOD in truth.
Church's avoid the TRUTH about Hell to continue to have growth in their church to make more money.


17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Proverbs
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Matthew (Son of GOD talking)
let me guess that one friend would be you.. do you know why gays are gay because their fucking dicks don't get hard for women blame that on your god! that's not a choice...
 

ghostdriver

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Yeah they have done so much vile things to themselves actual sex can't satisfy their cravings anymore.

Their have been many reports of people who kill people, go through similar levels of events.
They start at fantasizing, but it no longer fulfills their unquenchable desires, then move on to killing animals, no longer fulfill's their unquenchable desires, then they kill actual human beings.


This is what happens when people start watching pornography, they become addicted... Then after a certain time, new pornography material is needed...
Typical more perverse and humiliating then the prior.
This continues until your doing abominations on craigslist and getting tested for HIV in the hospital.

You then have completely corrupted your mind and created yourself to become aroused at things which only bring humiliation and pain to others.

The natural act that GOD blessed mankind with to enjoy and raise a family, is not interesting because it doesn't bring a rush of being "perverted" , "wrong" , or "humiliating" which you have become accustomed to doing.

Here are some sites that talk about the extreme health problems caused by sodomy.
http://www.doctorslounge.com/fertility/forums/backup/topic-625.html
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000519.htm
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sexandrelationships/analsex.htm
http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/male-homosexual-behavior/
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/rectal-problems-topic-overview
http://www.webmd.com/sex/anal-sex-health-concerns


To the mass's of people this is the only reason they don't worship
THE LORD
 
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