The First LED Grow Box

JennyJan said:

I think the spirit of experimentation is a good thing. Regardless of our opinions, watching someone do something new is cool.

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Problem is that cannabis plants have certain lighting requirements. LEDs don't make enough light to cause the plant to grow properly. We already know what will happen. It's hardly novel nor much of an experiment to give a plant insufficient light. You could just as validly 'experiment' with glyphosate as a fertiliser. It'd surely be new, but would it be 'cool' or 'stupid'? Most people don't have to jump off a cliff to prove they can't fly.

LEDs sold for growing plants is nothing short of theft. LEDs sold as a SUPERIOR light source for growing plants is theft by deception.

No one likes to admit they've been suckered. The response of people who have bought LEDs & Aerogardens (and amazingly in this case, BOTH) for growing cannabis is usually first that they think they've found the holy grail and are under obligation to educate the stodgy curmudgeons who obviously have overlooked such manna. It doesn't usually take long for phase two- disappointment that the old farts were actually right. One would hope that the lesson would be learned with some grace, but some suckers have to lash out at everyone else over their own susceptibility to suggestion.

Bows to Al B. Fuct, WOW! Awesome way with words and way to back it up with those super photos. You are the man! So yeah, 1100 bucks is way too much to invest on something that has proven over and over to be far less superior to tried and tested methods. For about 1/2 that price you could go to one of the many suppliers and get a total system MH/HPS. I've got some land in florida I'll sell ya!

wow i know LEDS arent going to produce anything but i couldnt get past the first page, you guys dicks with your comments, but hey if you couldnt bash somebody then what else would you have to do

yeah, bashing people is exactly why I'm here, glad you picked up on that. It's utter truth that I have nothing else to do.

It's also long past due time that I further admit I'm also responsible for the 9/11 attacks, World War II and polio.

And fruitcake.

Thanks to those few for the support and the call out on the mis-use of the thread (As it pertains to the Title) I see that you all have met the resident weed nazi and his crew, any questions on why I refer to him as a raggity Anne, didn't think so.

The seeds have cracked. I like to wait till the tail is about 1/4" before moving into the aerogarden (I'm sure there will be ten pages as to why this is wrong but its my chioce)

The Cabinet has changed; originally, I wanted three shelves but went with two thinking the second chamber would'nt have enough space ( to hold a fully extended aero garden when needed). Once I was finished I wanted to go back to my original plan




The Reason I blacked out the bottom was because Red light gets through and I didn't want it reflecting around and up. This area can also take the aero garden in the seeding stage with a mylar wrap (just the machine, facing away from the fan connecting the otherside) be back for questions in the PM

Im waiting on the outlets which I ordered Friday to finish up the wiring So to show it on again will be one week, and just for fun....
Al b we all know it was your King GWB who put those planes into those towers and a missle into the Pentagon. What was it about being a fluffer for the PMOC attracted you the most?

It is relatively simple to be snarky, mean, and dismissive. It is not impressive, regardless of how smart or right you are. I would expect a certain mannered "Noblesse oblige" from the more experienced set, especially one who is clearly not a runny nosed teen trying to hide his pot grow from mom. Grown ups know how to argue without bragging and belittling. It is sad.

I would like to see some pics as the LED grow gets going. I would be interested weather it works or not (true "science" honors its failures as well as its sucesses no?). That one set of LED grow pics, those are not your plants right. Those are depressing gah.

Al your grow looks very high end, that must be fun. What on earth do you do with all that pot, that is like a lifetime supply. I grow to avoid feeding the criminal system (wish it was not criminal but, alas) while still being able to have a little nightcap here and there. I like seeing simple, small, subtle set ups.

Awww shit. I know this is just an experiment and you arent making any claims as to the effectiveness of LEDs, so i feel like a bit of an asshole telling you its not gonna work. But then i see how much Al B. and company are tearing this shit up and i see i dont need to, its been taken care of by the expert.
i wouldnt feel comfortable trading my 1000w hps for a hundred superultra LED panels. They just aren't ready for your average horti-fucking-culturalist at this point.
On a side note, Heres my thought, DAY-GLO paint!!!! think of the lumens! Im sure with a little tweeking you could get it to fade after 12 hours or so, and then you just apply another coat every other 12 hours and you're good to go!
Stay tuned for my 10 000 Lightning bug grow, and my 500 zippo lighter grow!!!
Seriously though, good luck and happy growing to all of you.

HollywoodRpi69 said:

Al b we all know it was your King GWB who put those planes into those towers and a missle into the Pentagon. What was it about being a fluffer for the PMOC attracted you the most?

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Why am I not surprised that a clown who thinks he can grow cannabis with LEDs also believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories? heh, I have a 'Brown's Gas' converter for sale that will run your car on water. Show me the money. You part with yours quite easily, it seems

JennyJan said:

. I would expect a certain mannered "Noblesse oblige" from the more experienced set, especially one who is clearly not a runny nosed teen trying to hide his pot grow from mom.

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You can expect it, but when I have gotten insult after insult from our spotty little xmas light evangelist, you're not bloody likely to get it.

Al your grow looks very high end, that must be fun. What on earth do you do with all that pot, that is like a lifetime supply. I grow to avoid feeding the criminal system (wish it was not criminal but, alas) while still being able to have a little nightcap here and there. I like seeing simple, small, subtle set ups.

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Mine is small and subtle. If you think my grow is particularly huge, you don't know what a huge grow looks like. I am seriously small potatoes with a mere pair of 1000s. HUGE grows start by filling every room of a house with HPS lights.

I also grow to avoid the 'criminal system.' I don't have to have any dealer-only crims in my supply chain, just me and a few lovers of fines herbes.

using leds is equal to feeding a small child just a cracker a day and expecting him to grow strong. It is also those who believe in conspiracy theorys that took us to iraq to fight the "terrorists" that were in afghanistan. No wonder you bought all those leds, someone made a cute little ad and you went oh something shiny must be true.

al b. Fuct said:

yeah, bashing people is exactly why i'm here, glad you picked up on that. It's utter truth that i have nothing else to do.

It's also long past due time that i further admit i'm also responsible for the 9/11 attacks, world war ii and polio.

And fruitcake.

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oh that tears it mr.fuct it's one thing to be a dick......i get it, it makes me feel good too. And it's one thing to try to tell people that those pics of that op are yours....especially when you know you'll never be the weed baron that i am!!!

But sir a line must be drawn when it comes to compress molded dried fruit and nuts....this is unforgivable

missiles and planes have never caused as much collateral damage as your friggen fruit cakes......you should be strung up

ww11 was cool and polio's medicine tastes nummy so thank you for those

bugsy, I know fruitcake is a burden on all of humanity... and I'm genuinely sorry for that. Worse than National Geographic magazines... which, by the way, I had a hand in as well... but really only the parts with half-naked tribal women.

all is forgiven

how could i hate anyone who had such a hand (definately no punn intended ) in my adolescent tribal masturbation rituals

This Came from Al B Fuct Earilier Today, Anyone want to know me just ask My work doesnt Care My Religion is My Business
Your are priceless

The First LED Grow Box 09-13-2008 04:16 PMI'm done being nice to you. You're going to learn the hard way to be nice. Stop calling names or I'll start. I'm going to be generous and let you pick the name. Will that be Al, Alan or Mr Ritter? Your job will be thrilled.

what does that even mean?

did he get your info or something?

that's not cool

HollywoodRpi69 said:

This Came from Al B Fuct Earilier Today, Anyone want to know me just ask B& H doesnt Care My Religion is My Business

The First LED Grow Box 09-13-2008 04:16 PMI'm done being nice to you. You're going to learn the hard way to be nice. Stop calling names or I'll start. I'm going to be generous and let you pick the name. Will that be Al, Alan or Mr Ritter? B&H will be thrilled.

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I dont believe you're a salesman, i think you're still at school.
Only a child would go-on the way you're going on.

bugsrnme said:

what does that even mean?

did he get your info or something?

that's not cool

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Yes He has all my info I'm not really hiding anything if the Feds show up I'm sure they will be Much more interested in him. After all the most, according to everyone here, I'm gonna grow is a half once tops. in the State of NewYork thats a 100.00 fine a Room like his though that will get you time. I'm a one man operation trying to save myself some cash, and I'm an American I'll never settle for a "gentleman" such as mr fuct. Other than the bud I'm a law abiding citizen.

Below Is Angel he lived on two He went down 6 stories from the roof across the street last Sunday morning no one knows if he jumped, fell or was pushed, no note, no investagation. 6 weeks ago It was Areil. He was stabbed in the foyer, he died a week later

They cook Meth up the street from me Im sure the good Men and Women of the NYPD have bigger fish to fry. Right now I'm listen to a bunch of guys passing a blunt around behind my building noticing the Rats are as big as Dogs and the Blunt is Ripping.

damn....how'd he get your info....i went to your profile and nadda.....makes me worry about pissing off the wrong people on here!

i don't get what all this fuss is about. How come the poor guy can't grow using whatever method is heart desires?

Well hey, being posititve, you DO gotta nice cab. If the grow results in a dime bag, just swap out the LEDs with a 150w HPS, MH or CFL… or hey, even some 18inch T8's might provide somthing smokable. Use the LEDs for suplemental lighting, or maybe it would work with clones and seedlings. Also, dude, you posted an LED grow box, what do you expect? Of course people are going to hate! Ha! But as u can tell by the 14 pages of replies, people are curious. Can't wait to see pics, fail or pass, either way, you have an audience waiting.

peace, good luck,
-p

End of Day Three., Good Tails on all but one, jury still out there. All of the Tails were almost 3/4 of an inch in 72hrs Very impressive Thank You Nirvana. Btw Water by Brita AeroGarden. Nutis came today, ordered them thursday thank God one more night in the germination tray could turn out to be not so benifical.