The far red thread

nachooo

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Was there any difference in plant height? I have to keep my ladies short.
There was a diference..cause the 10/14 ones finish the stretching phase some days before the 13/11. As flowering time is done in less overall time there are some way..less stretching time...But anyway it was not a big diference. To keep them short is better to use other methods..like use blue light or play with auxins bending the apical shoots...
 

Old ninja

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Several posts on forums but haven't found anything solid like a paper/study. After seeing what I got out of that run it may be worth a test though. I'll have to wait until I get through some seed runs. Only way to really tell is using known clones for a baseline, then running them in same size containers, and flipping them at the same size.
Totally agree, posts and forums are not reliable. Many misconceptions, beliefs etc. Only a few knows what they are talking about. But this thread is way above average, so I'm happy here. Experimenting is a hard work. One experiment is only 1 bit of information, to draw the whole picture, you need a lot. And it is hard to make a reliable exp.
 

Old ninja

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There was a diference..cause the 10/14 ones finish the stretching phase some days before the 13/11. As flowering time is done in less overall time there are some way..less stretching time...But anyway it was not a big diference.
Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. My theory was that faster transition from veg to full flow=less stretch. But not a big diff, ok.
 

GroErr

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Totally agree, posts and forums are not reliable. Many misconceptions, beliefs etc. Only a few knows what they are talking about. But this thread is way above average, so I'm happy here. Experimenting is a hard work. One experiment is only 1 bit of information, to draw the whole picture, you need a lot. And it is hard to make a reliable exp.
Yeah it's a lot of work and time to test something out and come up with a solid conclusion. Then it's only really valid in your environment. So many variables. I go with gut or if I notice something, if it's important enough I'll test it out. If it works in my environment, bonus. The finish time thing was important enough to me to test out and worked out well, but took a year :shock:. Even then, you'd have to match the whole environment to replicate it.
 

Old ninja

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Then it's only really valid in your environment.
These things even tend to be strain dependent. So even if you see a clear benefit with one strain, with another strain you might see no difference or even the opposite result.
Don't be this pessimistic. Every test gives some info that everybody can learn from. So keep experimenting and share the knowledge!
 

Old ninja

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Thanks, she was a beauty F2 that eventually produced some awesome offspring and mothered the BX1 crosses.
Are you talking about Cinderella? I'm interested! I want to try them out. What breeder do you recommend? Is the Brothers Grimm version the best, or do you know something better? Have you heard about the Cinderella XX, it is the fem version. Can you tell me something about the differences between the Cin and GSC? I know it's off-topic, sorry for that.
 

GroErr

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Are you talking about Cinderella? I'm interested! I want to try them out. What breeder do you recommend? Is the Brothers Grimm version the best, or do you know something better? Have you heard about the Cinderella XX, it is the fem version. Can you tell me something about the differences between the Cin and GSC? I know it's off-topic, sorry for that.
No I'm running mostly my own crosses, that one I posted is Blue Ripper (F2 at the time) which is a cross of Blueberry x JTR that I've been working for a couple of years. At the BX2 stage just waiting for the plants to finish so I can test though those and it should be done. Haven't grown either of the C99 or GSC, never enough room or time!
 

KonopCh

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I want to add 4 far red diodes into 80x80cm tent.
Can you help me with driver (how much current and thus minutes to run them) and timer? My analog one goes only by 15 minutes.
 

Aolelon

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I want to add 4 far red diodes into 80x80cm tent.
Can you help me with driver (how much current and thus minutes to run them) and timer? My analog one goes only by 15 minutes.
What lights are you using.
If any I would use the cree xp-e photo red diodes 660nm. They are cheap and easy to use, and set up, you can get them with solderless connectors. Are you trying to get the EOD effect to put them to sleep faster? Then you can run 4 Cree Xp-e far red diodes (720-740nm)
 

KonopCh

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What lights are you using.
If any I would use the cree xp-e photo red diodes 660nm. They are cheap and easy to use, and set up, you can get them with solderless connectors. Are you trying to get the EOD effect to put them to sleep faster? Then you can run 4 Cree Xp-e far red diodes (720-740nm)
660 is not far red. Please read my post before answering.

And I want to know science behind it, not want to overdo it. I like science, not bro science. So your second post about rapidled is useless to me.
 

Aolelon

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660 is not far red. Please read my post before answering.

And I want to know science behind it, not want to overdo it. I like science, not bro science. So your second post about rapidled is useless to me.
Your post didnt ask for the science, you asked for help with a driver, and a timer. I didnt just post photo red diodes, I also gave you some far red diodes to look up also. So kiss my ass. there is a whole thread dedicated to far red, how about you start there instead of trying to be spoon fed information.
 
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Aolelon

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Good info @Aolelon
I bought 4 of those far red pucks for my 4x8
I don’t understand how you mathed everything but I was thinking 5 minutes while lights on and 5 minutes while lights off.
Hoping that will help.
The math is for different chips. I bought 5 of the Chanzon 730nm off ebay and made my own light with a 9v 1.2a power supply. 10 minutes is around the norm for a lot of people.
I was doing 15min before and 15 min off for a couple weeks and started reading around, and found that was too long. Got some help with the math and now I have them on for 2 mins before lights go off and 2 mins after, because I was getting a lot of foxtailing.
 

KonopCh

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Your post didnt ask for the science, you asked for help with a driver, and a timer. I didnt just post photo red diodes, I also gave you some far red diodes to look up also. So kiss my ass. there is a whole thread dedicated to far red, how about you start there instead of trying to be spoon fed information.
Kiss my ass too, fucker. And learn how to read comments, because you act like a 18 year old trash can.
But anyway, thanks for little copy/paste from other member.

Still didn't get answer for precise timer, anyone?
 

Aolelon

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Kiss my ass too, fucker. And learn how to read comments, because you act like a 18 year old trash can.
But anyway, thanks for little copy/paste from other member.
Lol you are the one acting like a little ass kid. No problem since you cant read and find the information for your damn self.
 
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