The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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yeah, but we're not talking about shit on trump...we're talking about shit trump has on everyone NOT willingly testifying against HIM
Once Trump is removed as the POTUS I think a lot of people will lose their inhibitions about testifying against him, especially if the FBI has them by the balls and squeezes a bit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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National Enquirer's reporting on Jeff Bezos under scrutiny by federal prosecutors
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/media/national-enquirer-jeff-bezos/index.html

New York (CNN Business)With Jeff Bezos accusing American Media Inc. of attempted "extortion and blackmail," the company's legal troubles are just beginning.

Federal prosecutors are once again examining the conduct of American Media, or AMI for short, which owns the National Enquirer and other magazines.
Last year AMI, the company's CEO David Pecker, and chief content officer Dylan Howard struck an immunity deal with federal prosecutors. In exchange, they cooperated in the hush money case that ensnared Michael Cohen and implicated President Trump in campaign finance violations.
The AMI deal contained standard language that said that if the company committed "any crimes" in the future, "AMI shall thereafter be subject to prosecution."

In other words, the deal would be off.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Pecker and AMI don't need to be convicted or even charged with a crime to trash their squeal deal and if a judge agrees that they violated it Pecker is going to prison and AMI is history. Bezos is probably gonna sue these clowns for every dime they ever had.
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Explosive Bezos Allegation Could Jeopardize Trump Ally Immunity | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Amazon founder, Jeff Bezos, went public with an explosive allegation that the National Enquirer tabloid tried to blackmail him with stolen explicit pictures. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent, Ari Melber, breaks down how the allegation could add gasoline to a federal probe impacting Michael Cohen and Trump. Trump ally and National Enquirer publisher, David Pecker, allegedly arranged for the Enquirer to buy stories from women linked to Trump, like former Playboy model Karen McDougal, in order to hide them and protect Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Some here might not like Bill Maher, but he is saying something important here, something many here have realized for a while. I think this gets to the root of many of the problems that America faces now.
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New Rule: The Republicans Are the Problem | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Only 630 days till Trump will be voted out ...worst case scenario
I figure getting voted out will be a worst case scenario because it will leave too much time for Trump to create mischief and even start a war. November until Jan 20th is a lot of time for Donald to ponder his fate and anticipate arrest at the inauguration of the new president. It might be good for the democrats if he ran for a second term, but bad for the country and probably the planet. This whole mess is in the process of blowing up in a very ugly way over the next several months and the longer it drags out the worse it will be for the GOP in the election. The democrats will impeach Trump with slam dunk cases on several counts with overwhelming evidence and pass that hot potato right into the hands of the GOP senate for a public TV trial. The republicans will be fucked with their base if they vote to convict and fucked with the larger public if they don't. A classic conundrum and a fatal situation for the GOP senate majority, I don't think Mitch is gonna want Donald around by next election and might just find enough votes to do him.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I figure getting voted out will be a worst case scenario because it will leave too much time for Trump to create mischief and even start a war. November until Jan 20th is a lot of time for Donald to ponder his fate and anticipate arrest at the inauguration of the new president. It might be good for the democrats if he ran for a second term, but bad for the country and probably the planet. This whole mess is in the process of blowing up in a very ugly way over the next several months and the longer it drags out the worse it will be for the GOP in the election. The democrats will impeach Trump with slam dunk cases on several counts with overwhelming evidence and pass that hot potato right into the hands of the GOP senate for a public TV trial. The republicans will be fucked with their base if they vote to convict and fucked with the larger public if they don't. A classic conundrum and a fatal situation for the GOP senate majority, I don't think Mitch is gonna want Donald around by next election and might just find enough votes to do him.
it has been suggested here before that they're not going to impeach the peach, they're waiting for him to be out of office, and out of power, without any get out of jail free pardon cards...
of course, there is the slim possibility that he could win again in 2020....which means this will have all been wasted time...
time that someone could have spent channeling the spirit of Lee Harvey Oswald...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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it has been suggested here before that they're not going to impeach the peach, they're waiting for him to be out of office, and out of power, without any get out of jail free pardon cards...
of course, there is the slim possibility that he could win again in 2020....which means this will have all been wasted time...
time that someone could have spent channeling the spirit of Lee Harvey Oswald...
The democrats will impeach him, there's too much evidence of treason and corruption, but they would like it to be closer to the election. It's too good an opportunity to destroy the republicans (and save the country) to pass up, Mitch McConnell will figure out a way to do Donald while causing the minimum amount of damage to his caucus. The only senate republicans to vote guilty will be those running in 2024 and the rest will face a very hard election after getting through their primaries. If Trump is impeached and convicted this spring, it won't be over, but just beginning, the trials for Donald, his family and a host of others for conspiracy with the Russians against the USA will start. All these trials (and convictions) will happen during the run up to the election and the republicans will pay the price for supporting treason. Hopefully it will be a high price, but many Americans are too hate filled and stupid to care that the POTUS committed treason with a hostile foreign power that has thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at them and who tried to destroy their democracy.

It's just too dangerous for the country to wait until the election to do Donald, if he is defeated he will have 3 months to cause mayhem and claim the election was rigged. Impeachment can happen very quickly, with in weeks, days or even hours if there is the political will and Mitch McConnell might not want a long drawn out public impeachment trial. Donald has to go, it's better for the country and the GOP if it happens quickly and the sooner the better. The republicans don't wanna go into the next election carrying Trump and enough of his water to drown the whole herd of elephants, they don't want him tweeting about it either and that means prison.
 

Unclebaldrick

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The democrats will impeach him, there's too much evidence of treason and corruption, but they would like it to be closer to the election. It's too good an opportunity to destroy the republicans (and save the country) to pass up, Mitch McConnell will figure out a way to do Donald while causing the minimum amount of damage to his caucus. The only senate republicans to vote guilty will be those running in 2024 and the rest will face a very hard election after getting through their primaries. If Trump is impeached and convicted this spring, it won't be over, but just beginning, the trials for Donald, his family and a host of others for conspiracy with the Russians against the USA will start. All these trials (and convictions) will happen during the run up to the election and the republicans will pay the price for supporting treason. Hopefully it will be a high price, but many Americans are too hate filled and stupid to care that the POTUS committed treason with a hostile foreign power that has thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at them and who tried to destroy their democracy.

It's just too dangerous for the country to wait until the election to do Donald, if he is defeated he will have 3 months to cause mayhem and claim the election was rigged. Impeachment can happen very quickly, with in weeks, days or even hours if there is the political will and Mitch McConnell might not want a long drawn out public impeachment trial. Donald has to go, it's better for the country and the GOP if it happens quickly and the sooner the better. The republicans don't wanna go into the next election carrying Trump and enough of his water to drown the whole herd of elephants, they don't want him tweeting about it either and that means prison.
In my mind, McConnell thinks he can control Trump. For the most part, he has been right so far. I don't see the Republicans removing him from office short of irrefutable damning evidence of personal criminal activity. Whatever happens, McConnell will make the decision that his right for him - country be damned.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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In my mind, McConnell thinks he can control Trump. For the most part, he has been right so far. I don't see the Republicans removing him from office short of irrefutable damning evidence of personal criminal activity. Whatever happens, McConnell will make the decision that his right for him - country be damned.
He'd need a shock collar to control Trump, Donald can't control himself unless someone like Putin is holding a gun to his head. McConnell has the power to convict an impeached Trump and that's about the only hold he has over him. I don't think Mitch liked the government shutdown and was sweating bullets to avoid another one. I have faith that Mitch is a sneaky cocksucker and he'll cut Donald's throat as soon as he figures he can't get away with it.

Before Trump came along the GOP would have had it all, a big majority in the house and an even bigger majority in the senate and probably the POTUS too. Donald lost them the house and the senate GOP majority will be in serious jeopardy next year and the very existence of the republicans as a national party after that. Even the gerrymandering advantage they've been building over the last decade is at risk with the loss of state houses and if it wasn't for that cheating the democrats majority would be much higher in the house than it is now. The coming impeachment trial will put Mitch in a very difficult position in the lead up to the 2020 elections. The shit is really gonna hit the fan about the Trump conspiracy with the Russians this spring and it's gonna look real bad for the GOP, that's not including the many other scandals that are gonna be publicly investigated by the house.

It won't make much difference to the 38% who still think Trump is doing a good job unless he fucks up their lives, Putin could be his running mate in 2020 for all they would care. The sad part is that even if you get rid of Trump, you'd still be stuck with 40% of the population who would be willing and eager to betray their country because of fear, hate and stupidity. Trump is as much a symptom as a problem and today's republicans are a bunch of fear driven racist marks who will quickly find another con man to serve their malice and tell them what they want to hear.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's Time to Admit That Many Americans Are Stupid
--It's time to admit that many Americans are stupid, even if it's not politically correct to do so, because in Trump's America it is increasingly a reality
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's Time to Admit That Many Americans Are Stupid
--It's time to admit that many Americans are stupid, even if it's not politically correct to do so, because in Trump's America it is increasingly a reality
time to admit it? i've been fucking saying it for 53 years...
trump has nothing to do with how many Americans are stupid....some of it is genetic...there are just fucking morons all over the world, and they keep fucking each other and making more morons... some of it is societal, there are a lot of stupid people writing books, or making videos, about how to raise children, interact with other people, pursue a career, and other stupid people are reading or watching this drivel, and trying to use the useless "information" they contain...younger and younger people are having children, which isn't a good thing. people used to get married in their early teens, and start families right away...but those people weren't spoiled teens who had never done a days work in their entire lives. they were farm kids who had been getting up early and doing chores before school or lessons, then more chores after school. they spent their days milking cows, feeding the livestock, collecting eggs, toting water, helping mom cook, helping dad plow and weed and harvest....and they had been taught good family values, so that's what they passed on to their children...
teenagers now aren't taught a fucking thing, their parents are too busy tweeting each other, watching youtube, and playing games to have learned any good values, let alone be able to teach them to anyone
 

topcat

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It's Time to Admit That Many Americans Are Stupid
--It's time to admit that many Americans are stupid, even if it's not politically correct to do so, because in Trump's America it is increasingly a reality
Trump surely knows it. He's now convincing them that wall has been built, construction is going on now and all that is needed is money to "finish the wall", his latest rally chant. Next, he'll say the wall is finished, he won and they'll believe him. It's a fascinating observation of cult behavior.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It looks like Manafort has a cell for life, unless Trump pardons him, but I figure Donald will toss him under the bus. I see it's round #2 for Matt Whitaker with the house judiciary committee, I can see a XXL orange jumpsuit in his future, another asshole under the bus...
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