The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is something interesting I noticed in the following article, "A majority of those surveyed say Trump will have "a lot" of impact on their congressional vote on Nov. 6 – 35 percent who are casting their ballot to show their opposition to him, 23 percent to show their support. Only one in four say the president doesn't have at least some effect on their vote". As election day approaches the democratic lead appears to be widening fast and early voting numbers are triple last years early turn out in many places.
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USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll: The midterms are all about Trump, and Democrats have the edge in the stretch
Susan Page and Cat Hofacker, USA TODAYPublished 7:04 a.m. ET Oct. 25, 2018 | Updated 10:35 a.m. ET Oct. 25, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/10/25/poll-midterm-elections-donald-trump-democrats/1742432002/

WASHINGTON – The midterm elections are all about the man who's not on the ballot.

A new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds President Trump driving the decisions of a majority of voters who say they are determined to send a message of either support or opposition to him. That dynamic is giving Democrats an edge as the crucial campaign heads into the final stretch.

A majority of those surveyed say Trump will have "a lot" of impact on their congressional vote on Nov. 6 – 35 percent who are casting their ballot to show their opposition to him, 23 percent to show their support. Only one in four say the president doesn't have at least some effect on their vote.

Indeed, Trump hasn't shied from making the Nov. 6 election a referendum on him, holding huge rallies in a string of red and swing states and telling the crowds that a vote for the local Senate or House candidate is "a vote for me." Midterms are often a judgment about the sitting president, but never in modern times has one campaigned so hard to make sure it is.

That now translates to an advantage for Democrats on the generic congressional ballot – that is, the hypothetical choice between an unnamed Republican and an unnamed Democrat. By 51-43 percent, likely voters say they would support the Democratic candidate, not the Republican one, if the election were held today. That eight-point difference is a significant edge, albeit not an overwhelming one. In the USA TODAY poll in August, Democrats led by 11 points.
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Fogdog

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Here is something interesting I noticed in the following article, "A majority of those surveyed say Trump will have "a lot" of impact on their congressional vote on Nov. 6 – 35 percent who are casting their ballot to show their opposition to him, 23 percent to show their support. Only one in four say the president doesn't have at least some effect on their vote". As election day approaches the democratic lead appears to be widening fast and early voting numbers are triple last years early turn out in many places.
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USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll: The midterms are all about Trump, and Democrats have the edge in the stretch
Susan Page and Cat Hofacker, USA TODAYPublished 7:04 a.m. ET Oct. 25, 2018 | Updated 10:35 a.m. ET Oct. 25, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/10/25/poll-midterm-elections-donald-trump-democrats/1742432002/

WASHINGTON – The midterm elections are all about the man who's not on the ballot.

A new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds President Trump driving the decisions of a majority of voters who say they are determined to send a message of either support or opposition to him. That dynamic is giving Democrats an edge as the crucial campaign heads into the final stretch.

A majority of those surveyed say Trump will have "a lot" of impact on their congressional vote on Nov. 6 – 35 percent who are casting their ballot to show their opposition to him, 23 percent to show their support. Only one in four say the president doesn't have at least some effect on their vote.

Indeed, Trump hasn't shied from making the Nov. 6 election a referendum on him, holding huge rallies in a string of red and swing states and telling the crowds that a vote for the local Senate or House candidate is "a vote for me." Midterms are often a judgment about the sitting president, but never in modern times has one campaigned so hard to make sure it is.

That now translates to an advantage for Democrats on the generic congressional ballot – that is, the hypothetical choice between an unnamed Republican and an unnamed Democrat. By 51-43 percent, likely voters say they would support the Democratic candidate, not the Republican one, if the election were held today. That eight-point difference is a significant edge, albeit not an overwhelming one. In the USA TODAY poll in August, Democrats led by 11 points.
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Gerrymandering means an 8 point edge is really only 2 points for Democratic Party taking control of the House due to the undemocratic advantage Republicans seized when they won control of redistricting in 2010.

Pretty much certain the Senate stays in Republican hands.

Trump is not going to get impeached and removed so forget that.

The real victory takes place in the states where there seems to be a good chance of flipping them from red to blue ahead of the next round of redistricting after 2020. Liberals should show up and vote, the earlier the better.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Fogdog said:
Gerrymandering means an 8 point edge is really only 2 points for Democratic Party taking control of the House due to the undemocratic advantage Republicans seized when they won control of redistricting in 2010.

Pretty much certain the Senate stays in Republican hands.

Trump is not going to get impeached and removed so forget that.

The real victory takes place in the states where there seems to be a good chance of flipping them from red to blue ahead of the next round of redistricting after 2020. Liberals should show up and vote, the earlier the better.
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I agree about gerrymandering and voter suppression, winning state houses is important too.

It looks like the senate won't change, but I think all bets are off with this election there will be more than a few surprises.

As for Trump getting impeached, we'll just have to see what Mueller has to say and what evidence he has, what gets done about it depends on the results of the midterms. Race hate and political tribalism run deep in America and you need reform to minimize it's impact, it's the source of Trump's power and the cause of unnecessary division. Racism, hatred and tribalism make people stupid and blind, Trump is a symptom
 
Fogdog

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I agree about gerrymandering and voter suppression, winning state houses is important too.

It looks like the senate won't change, but I think all bets are off with this election there will be more than a few surprises.

As for Trump getting impeached, we'll just have to see what Mueller has to say and what evidence he has, what gets done about it depends on the results of the midterms. Race hate and political tribalism run deep in America and you need reform to minimize it's impact, it's the source of Trump's power and the cause of unnecessary division. Racism, hatred and tribalism make people stupid and blind, Trump is a symptom
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Trump is not going to be removed from office. Would bet my membership at RIU on it.

Impeachment is different and can happen if the US House of Reps flip but it takes 2/3 majority in the Senate to remove from office. Won't happen. You are right that the Mueller investigation could dredge up enough but I still think that at least 35 "party over country" Republican Senators will not vote to remove Trump from office, regardless.

I don't see any good reason to hold impeachment proceedings in the House unless the Senate looks ripe to remove from office. Obstruct, embarrass, investigate, anything to stop Trump and the GOP from fulfilling its right wing agenda but impeachment isn't one that I'd like to see them do unless the odds look good for removal from office too.

The tactic didn't work all that well for Republicans over Clinton. By the end of his term, Clinton's approval ratings were pretty good in spite of the impeachment asterisk Republicans hung over his name.

Good god, it wasn't that long ago that a stained blue dress and a cheating lying husband was a national scandal, bringing the work of Congress to a standstill. The president can invite Russia to interfere in our elections and it doesn't matter to the current Congress. Talk about how times can change.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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combatvet2009 said:
:bigjoint: bahaha... get ready for 4 more years TRUMP who is YOUR PRESIDENT you communist liberals :hump:
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Oh look another traitor troll, we're waiting for the election results, if there are enough fools like you then America is finished. We can now say that the republican party is a racist organization and republicans are racists, it's the only consistent thing about Trump, that and sucking Putin's ass. The ideology changes every day and sometimes in the same sentence of a speech, so it can't be that. Must be getting at those brown folks and their liberal allies that got ya all worked up enough to ignore Trump's treason, incompetence and abuse of office. Liberals are what you treasonous idiots call patriots these days. 2009 must be your DOB.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Gerrymandering means an 8 point edge is really only 2 points for Democratic Party taking control of the House due to the undemocratic advantage Republicans seized when they won control of redistricting in 2010.

Pretty much certain the Senate stays in Republican hands.

Trump is not going to get impeached and removed so forget that.

The real victory takes place in the states where there seems to be a good chance of flipping them from red to blue ahead of the next round of redistricting after 2020. Liberals should show up and vote, the earlier the better.
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re-districting is on the ballot now..happening way before 2020..felons getting their vote back too.

there may be hope for florida afterall.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I think the tide is turning against the republicans in the midterm election this week, the GOP miscalculation on healthcare and trying to lie their heads off about preexisting conditions will make a difference. They voted 70 times to eliminate Obamacare and 18 GOP states are suing to get rid of preexisting conditions, now they are all running bullshit panic ads claiming to support preexisting conditions. Then there's the republican's corruption, crime, incompetence, dereliction of duty and treason to consider as well. WHAT TO DO? Who's still confused?

How about Trump's latest middle class tax cut lie and congress isn't even in session, only an idiot would spout such a falsehood. Or whipping up fear and hate against poor desperate women and children in the so called "caravan" heading north.

This election is all about Trump and since Trump is his own press agent, naturally he is going to "run" the midterm election campaign, not the expert assholes who do this for a living...

The national IQ test is 13 days away though the early voting turn out is often triple the numbers of last election. It looks good for the democrats and America, hopefully the vast majority of the people have morals and ethics as well as common sense.
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don't worry..we're pacing ourselves..i haven't even voted yet..i'm savoring this.
 
combatvet2009

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bahaha... im a veteran impersonator unclebuck for pedophile like yourself to question if im a veteran is very funny and i dont need to prove to you im a 100% P&T home bound veteran and have been since 2009 oh and by the way 2009 was my last deployment not my year i was born... i know you probably got all hot and heavy thinking about me being a little boy and all but sorry to burst your bubble... Please bahahah... lets hear some more of your amazing wisdom
 
Unclebaldrick

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combatvet2009 said:
bahaha... im a veteran impersonator unclebuck for pedophile like yourself to question if im a veteran is very funny and i dont need to prove to you im a 100% P&T home bound veteran and have been since 2009 oh and by the way 2009 was my last deployment not my year i was born... i know you probably got all hot and heavy thinking about me being a little boy and all but sorry to burst your bubble... Please bahahah... lets hear some more of your amazing wisdom
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Oh, ok. I am a lovely Asian female Bi-sexual yoga instructor.

Sorry I did not believe you.

But you are a fucking idiot.
 
combatvet2009

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hmmm... definitely didn't contest to being a pedophile did you you fucking creep lol and I love how thru all the insults and bullshit no one and give me any proof that Trump is a racist, sexiest or anything else. All this entire thread is, is a bunch of wine bag communist liberals who will believe ANYTHING chuck, nansi, george or the democratic party throws at you. This is truly the most pathetic and comical thing i have ever seen. please give me some more liberal logic i can laugh my ass off at. i'll be waiting bongsmilie:clap:
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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combatvet2009 said:
hmmm... definitely didn't contest to being a pedophile did you you fucking creep lol and I love how thru all the insults and bullshit no one and give me any proof that Trump is a racist, sexiest or anything else. All this entire thread is, is a bunch of wine bag communist liberals who will believe ANYTHING chuck, nansi, george or the democratic party throws at you. This is truly the most pathetic and comical thing i have ever seen. please give me some more liberal logic i can laugh my ass off at. i'll be waiting bongsmilie:clap:
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Your penis is very tiny.
 
combatvet2009

combatvet2009

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haha... see all you liberal's are the same when you realize that you have no facts to back your pathetic accusations you always revert back to trying to make yourself feel better by putting other people down right. this truly could not be a more perfect debate against a liberal and conservative. "Conservative" give me proof Trump is racist "Liberal" you have a small penis and can't spell.... LMAO oh this is so epic
 
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