The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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Wine-Banks: Rudy Giuliani Admitted Robert Mueller Has A Good Obstruction Case

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Have a look at the first few seconds of this video to see how Donald spent memorial day weekend, just look at the tweets!
I don't figure Trump will make it to the midterms and if Mitch is gonna do the fucker, it will be soon...

Donald is squealing like a pig and dancing like he's got a live wire stuck up his ass, make em squirm bigly Bobby! He is not gonna like being turned into America's biggest loser.
 

greg nr

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Wine-Banks: Rudy Giuliani Admitted Robert Mueller Has A Good Obstruction Case

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Have a look at the first few seconds of this video to see how Donald spent memorial day weekend, just look at the tweets!
I don't figure Trump will make it to the midterms and if Mitch is gonna do the fucker, it will be soon...

Donald is squealing like a pig and dancing like he's got a live wire stuck up his ass, make em squirm bigly Bobby! He is not gonna like being turned into America's biggest loser.
Mitch is nothing if not a coward. He won't take the lead on something like this. He is going to follow the money, and right now the mercers and the koch's and the nra and the russians are threatening him if he moves. This isn't about party - it never was, they lost that years ago. It's about money. And the money is still backing the asshat.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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First, they can't fire sessions and replace him with pruit. Sessions can only be replaced if he dies (watch out for those rooftops jeff), resigns voluntarily, or is removed for cause (that could be challenged in court). Otherwise it falls to internal rules of succession at the doj. The federal vacancies act is actual law, so they can't just change the rules mid stream.

Secondly, rudy is only talking about impeachment for one reason. They are trying to fire his base up to come out at the midterms and preserve the house and senate. It's part of the midterm strategy and you can hear it echo'd in a lot of campaigns already. Trump is trying to amplify that meme. His base will be upset when he is impeached, but they are indifferent about the midterms. They want to associate the two.

It might work as ridiculous as it sounds. Once the feedback loops start, and the wurlitzer kicks in, this will be at the front of every trump voters mind. They don't believe trump did anything wrong and really do see the investigations as an attempt to bring him down; illegitimately in their feeble little minds.

But feeble minds can vote here. So can russian bots. The midterms are not a sure thing. GOTV!!!!
I thought he could replace Sessions with Pruitt because Pruitt is in the cabinet and won't need to be confirmed for a certain period of time. Pruitt can take over in justice, Trump could simply eliminate all the rules underpinning the DOJ, carry that into the midterms Mitch!
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Mitch is nothing if not a coward. He won't take the lead on something like this. He is going to follow the money, and right now the mercers and the koch's and the nra and the russians are threatening him if he moves. This isn't about party - it never was, they lost that years ago. It's about money. And the money is still backing the asshat.
Some money is backing these assholes, but I'll bet more is backing the other side along with more voters. Something is holding Donald's leash and some fear is constraining his behavior, he's worried, look at the tweet storm.
 

greg nr

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I thought he could replace Sessions with Pruitt because Pruitt is in the cabinet and won't need to be confirmed for a certain period of time. Pruitt can take over in justice, Trump could simply eliminate all the rules underpinning the DOJ, carry that into the midterms Mitch!

This is covered by the federal vacancies act. If a cabinet member leaves office because of death, resignation or is removed for cause, the president can appoint another cabinet member of equal or higher status for (I think) 5 months. Af6ter that they will have to be confirmed.

If none of those conditions are met. Say trump just outright fires sessions, he can't appoint pruitt. He has to nominate him and wait for the senate to confirm him. Now the senate can do that very quickly when they want to, so this may not be a big barrier, but he would need to wait until he (or whomever it is) gets confirmed.

In the meantime the next in line would be put in charge.

But in the end, Pruitt would be in charge. He could do immense and permanent damage to the DoJ. And it would mean the end to any investigations. At the very least, he could taint the evidence so badly it couldn't be used to get a conviction, even if a prosecutor agreed to bring the charges to court, whichh they would be barred from doing. And muehler would have to break the law to issue his report; hopefully he would do that but there is no guarentee.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Michael Avenatti Compares Alleged Cohen Audio Recordings To Watergate Tapes
Attorney Michael Avenatti joins MSNBC after his Wednesday court appearance, and offers reaction to a federal judge’s warning about his standing in the Michael Cohen search warrant proceedings. Avenatti also calls for the public release of alleged audio recordings made by Cohen.
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This could be HUGE!
 

greg nr

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greg nr

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Robert Mueller's obstruction of justice probe is bigger than we realized


President Trump's fixation on “no collusion” has long belied this reality of the Russia investigation: The obstruction of justice half of the probe appears significantly more troublesome for him personally.

It's also likely to be much bigger than we realized.

That's the big, reinforcing takeaway from the New York Times's scoop Tuesday night that Trump asked Attorney General Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself in the Russia probe. It's merely the latest clear example of Trump trying to control or otherwise sway the people who could be in charge of his own fate. And it underlines the fact that he had very few boundaries in doing so.


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The confrontation, which has not been previously reported, is being investigated by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, as are the president’s public and private attacks on Mr. Sessions and efforts to get him to resign. Mr. Trump dwelled on the recusal for months, according to confidants and current and former administration officials who described his behavior toward the attorney general.

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In retrospect, it makes sense that this kind of episode would exist. On that list of 49 questions Trump's lawyers believe Mueller is interested in asking Trump, eight of them deal specifically with Sessions's recusal. It's been clear for a while that Trump was unhappy with that decision — and The Post has long reported Sessions has been a significant focus of Mueller's — but some questions seemed to allude specifically to an episode such as this:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/30/the-trump-obstruction-of-justice-probe-is-bigger-than-we-realized/?utm_term=.016ba2478679
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You guys will be happy to hear that there is an article in salon that misrepresents where the senate stands on trump. It will make you feel better. You won't be better, but hey, it's something. ;)

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/30/sessions-recusal-from-the-russia-investigation-was-fatal-for-trump/

Sessions’ recusal from the Russia investigation was fatal for Trump
Evidence is growing that Trump doesn’t have the votes to survive impeachment in the Senate
Primary season is over and if they are gonna do Donald, now would be a good time. I wouldn't be surprised if Mueller suddenly releases his obstruction of justice findings. Donald HAS to go down and quickly too, he's too dangerous and unstable, I'd be surprised to see him make it through summer and maybe not until then if he keeps going like he is. Hopefully not too many will die and the damage to the country will minimal before he's gone, directly to jail with no bail.
 

Sour Wreck

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Primary season is over and if they are gonna do Donald, now would be a good time. I wouldn't be surprised if Mueller suddenly releases his obstruction of justice findings. Donald HAS to go down and quickly too, he's too dangerous and unstable, I'd be surprised to see him make it through summer and maybe not until then if he keeps going like he is. Hopefully not too many will die and the damage to the country will minimal before he's gone, directly to jail with no bail.

i'm not believing you anymore. america is fucked up. our democracy is a stake. 35% of the country would let trump commit murder.
 

srh88

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Primary season is over and if they are gonna do Donald, now would be a good time. I wouldn't be surprised if Mueller suddenly releases his obstruction of justice findings. Donald HAS to go down and quickly too, he's too dangerous and unstable, I'd be surprised to see him make it through summer and maybe not until then if he keeps going like he is. Hopefully not too many will die and the damage to the country will minimal before he's gone, directly to jail with no bail.
I like Donny's daily witch Hunt tweets. It shows how shook up he really is
 

topcat

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I'd like to see Mueller drop his request for an interview. The request might just be a stall. "We'll see what happens". Be patient and enjoy the dotard in chief panic.
 

abalonehx

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Well, he said on camera that it was a about the Russia investigation with Comey.
This country is really fucked up. The insanity of fake news, conspiracy theories, racism, nationalism mixed
with a dogma of "Christianity". It's a sickness.
 
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