The Canadian Government Wants Police to Raid Medical Marijuana Dispensaries
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doingdishes
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i think so many in Vancouver is ridiculous and I live here...
they are really only for the $$. there was one that I believe was truly a compassion club but the guy got shut down. he charged $5 a gram for anything...$100 an oz and $1600 a pound. the other clubs were pissed so they complained..even the one right beside his.
where is the compassion when it comes to pricing? i see them giving breaks to the folks who buy in quantities but what about the guy who can only scrape together $10 a day? is he only allowed 1 gram unless he goes without for a few days and then can get 1/4 for $60?
i know guys who run one here & the ONLY reason they are doing it is for the $$. they sell out the back door and the whole bit. they were on TV a while ago. a reporter got a card for them after being "coached" by a girl on the street...he went to the 2 minute skype call & then across the street & bought. he even said afterward that he isn't in need of it.
i don't like the high price of the license $30k but when they charge those prices, it's not hard to recoup. the vending machine does over a million a year so what's $30k to someone like that?
they are really only for the $$. there was one that I believe was truly a compassion club but the guy got shut down. he charged $5 a gram for anything...$100 an oz and $1600 a pound. the other clubs were pissed so they complained..even the one right beside his.
where is the compassion when it comes to pricing? i see them giving breaks to the folks who buy in quantities but what about the guy who can only scrape together $10 a day? is he only allowed 1 gram unless he goes without for a few days and then can get 1/4 for $60?
i know guys who run one here & the ONLY reason they are doing it is for the $$. they sell out the back door and the whole bit. they were on TV a while ago. a reporter got a card for them after being "coached" by a girl on the street...he went to the 2 minute skype call & then across the street & bought. he even said afterward that he isn't in need of it.
i don't like the high price of the license $30k but when they charge those prices, it's not hard to recoup. the vending machine does over a million a year so what's $30k to someone like that?
hahahaha
she's paid to be stupid and push an agenda.
doingdishes
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i don't think she is paid to be stupid. i think that's genetics
so easily seen by the ones who hired her dimwit.
cannadan
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I must be naive......because I have never been to a compassion club....since I always thought of them as by the book...
and sticklers for exact rules....and to be known for their compassion...towards those in need of MMJ...when there just was not any mmj to be had.....that could be trusted for quality and quantity...and a fair price for the risk...encountered by those who were in the supply....business....
This does not sound like the same thing at all....it sounds like a cut throat business...where all participating.
(except for one) are in it for the cash money only....and stories such as this....though I have heard similar stuff...
re...people fabricating medical histories. to get their mmj licence, via skype...and purchasing....from LP's or compassion club's....do nothing but harm....MMAR growers and and users.....and by the way....Have absolutely nothing to do with the MMAR....or how it was administered...by HC.
It seems the only groups that were for the most part on the level...Were those who actually asked their doctor....for a signature and were most likely turned down....THAT'S RIGHT>>>>>MMAR growers and users...themselves....
Friggin typical....of how things are run....those with the most to lose....like their lives or health...are they ones portrayed
to be abusing the system.....and in reality....they are being played by both sides....
Canada's third largest city is poised to pass a series of unprecedented regulations for its medical marijuana dispensaries this week, amid opposition from a federal government that has fashioned itself arch enemy of pot for any purpose.
A suite of rules proposed by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson will make his city the first in Canada to clarify the legal gray zone in which medical marijuana shops currently operate.The new rules will limit ownership of these shops to individuals with no criminal record, ban the sale of edibles, limit where these shops can open, and slap $35,000 in annual fees onto the owners.
Vancouver's city council will vote on the measures on Tuesday, and they will almost certainly be approved. It comes amid an ongoing battle by marijuana producers to gain a toe-hold in the lucrative Canadian market. The federal government, however, is intent on keeping a lid on the burgeoning pot business, limiting access and charging crushing fees for the producers. Thanks to that system, there are less than two dozen licensed producers across the country, and only 17 of those are permitted to distribute pot, via mail, to patients.
While the new Vancouver rules are pitched as a "crackdown," promising to shutter as many as a fourth of the shops that currently operate in the city, the federal government is nevertheless furious.
"There are serious health risks associated with smoking marijuana, especially for kids. That is why our Conservative government wants to stop kids from smoking marijuana," read talking points provided to VICE News by a spokesperson for Health Minister Rona Ambrose.
The minister declined an interview.
The minister's outrage over the changes, which would in no way license the sale of marijuana to children, made headlines. Less attention was paid to what Canada's Conservative government wants done about it.
"Our government does not support making drugs more accessible," a spokesperson for Canada's Public Safety Minister told VICE News on Friday, when asked whether the government plans on sending in police to shut down these stores. "We expect all local cities and police to respect and enforce the law."
While cities may be looking to codify rules on the dispensaries — of which there are at least 80 in Vancouver alone — they remain illegal under federal law.
Ottawa won't say whether or not it intends on tasking the federal police service, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, to raid the grow-ops, much like the American government has for years used the FBI to impose federal drug laws at the expense of the state's rules on medical marijuana.
Related: Congress Halted the War on Medical Marijuana Last Night
At present, the federal government's plan is to pressure the city to abandon their regulations and to have the city send in the Vancouver Police Department to shut down the shops. Ottawa has been clear: it wants these medical marijuana dealers arrested.
The health minister has already written a letter to Vancouver's mayor, maintaining that "these regulations are clear and do not provide municipalities with authority to legitimize the commercial sale of marijuana."
The minister is referring to Canada's Marijuana — or, as the government calls it, Marihuana — for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR), which puts strict limits on how users can obtain their medicine. The regime tightly controls how the pot is grown, and forbids any distribution, except by mail.
A suite of rules proposed by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson will make his city the first in Canada to clarify the legal gray zone in which medical marijuana shops currently operate.The new rules will limit ownership of these shops to individuals with no criminal record, ban the sale of edibles, limit where these shops can open, and slap $35,000 in annual fees onto the owners.
Vancouver's city council will vote on the measures on Tuesday, and they will almost certainly be approved. It comes amid an ongoing battle by marijuana producers to gain a toe-hold in the lucrative Canadian market. The federal government, however, is intent on keeping a lid on the burgeoning pot business, limiting access and charging crushing fees for the producers. Thanks to that system, there are less than two dozen licensed producers across the country, and only 17 of those are permitted to distribute pot, via mail, to patients.
While the new Vancouver rules are pitched as a "crackdown," promising to shutter as many as a fourth of the shops that currently operate in the city, the federal government is nevertheless furious.
"There are serious health risks associated with smoking marijuana, especially for kids. That is why our Conservative government wants to stop kids from smoking marijuana," read talking points provided to VICE News by a spokesperson for Health Minister Rona Ambrose.
The minister declined an interview.
The minister's outrage over the changes, which would in no way license the sale of marijuana to children, made headlines. Less attention was paid to what Canada's Conservative government wants done about it.
"Our government does not support making drugs more accessible," a spokesperson for Canada's Public Safety Minister told VICE News on Friday, when asked whether the government plans on sending in police to shut down these stores. "We expect all local cities and police to respect and enforce the law."
While cities may be looking to codify rules on the dispensaries — of which there are at least 80 in Vancouver alone — they remain illegal under federal law.
Ottawa won't say whether or not it intends on tasking the federal police service, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, to raid the grow-ops, much like the American government has for years used the FBI to impose federal drug laws at the expense of the state's rules on medical marijuana.
Related: Congress Halted the War on Medical Marijuana Last Night
At present, the federal government's plan is to pressure the city to abandon their regulations and to have the city send in the Vancouver Police Department to shut down the shops. Ottawa has been clear: it wants these medical marijuana dealers arrested.
The health minister has already written a letter to Vancouver's mayor, maintaining that "these regulations are clear and do not provide municipalities with authority to legitimize the commercial sale of marijuana."
The minister is referring to Canada's Marijuana — or, as the government calls it, Marihuana — for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR), which puts strict limits on how users can obtain their medicine. The regime tightly controls how the pot is grown, and forbids any distribution, except by mail.
Under the previous regime, those with prescriptions or licenses to use medical marijuana were able to grow their own, or get someone to grow it for them. The MMPR system put sought to end that but a federal court granted a last-minute injunction that prevented home-growers from becoming criminals overnight. Canada's Supreme Court is expected to rule in the coming months on whether or not those who grew their own medicine before the new rules came into effect can continue to do so.
But, for the most part, the federal government has succeeded in choking off the vast majority of the medical marijuana industry in Canada.
Ottawa's system is designed to keep small producers out of the industry, and instead limit the market only to large-scale operations. Between the arduous licensing process — which largely comes down to an arbitrary decision by the minister of health — and exorbitant fees to set up shop, the market place is very small, and easy for the government to keep an eye on. Some producers are looking at up to $1 million to cover the security requirements alone. Other administrative requirements crafted by Ottawa could costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year more.
VICE's Canadian Cannabis series detailed how that corporate pot business is shaping up.
Those who work in the industry suspect that the federal government won't be issuing any new licenses, instead preferring to let competition in the industry whittle down the list until there are only a handful of producers who control the entire market, essentially creating a pot oligarchy.
The government already tightly manages the field of producers, slapping on onerousadvertising restrictions and warning them not to "advertise marijuana in relation to particular therapeutic claims."
The Conservatives have also turned it to a wedge issue for the upcoming fall election, alleging that Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party — which is currently neck-and-neck with the Conservatives in the polls — is out to sell pot to children
But, for the most part, the federal government has succeeded in choking off the vast majority of the medical marijuana industry in Canada.
Ottawa's system is designed to keep small producers out of the industry, and instead limit the market only to large-scale operations. Between the arduous licensing process — which largely comes down to an arbitrary decision by the minister of health — and exorbitant fees to set up shop, the market place is very small, and easy for the government to keep an eye on. Some producers are looking at up to $1 million to cover the security requirements alone. Other administrative requirements crafted by Ottawa could costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year more.
VICE's Canadian Cannabis series detailed how that corporate pot business is shaping up.
Those who work in the industry suspect that the federal government won't be issuing any new licenses, instead preferring to let competition in the industry whittle down the list until there are only a handful of producers who control the entire market, essentially creating a pot oligarchy.
The government already tightly manages the field of producers, slapping on onerousadvertising restrictions and warning them not to "advertise marijuana in relation to particular therapeutic claims."
The Conservatives have also turned it to a wedge issue for the upcoming fall election, alleging that Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party — which is currently neck-and-neck with the Conservatives in the polls — is out to sell pot to children
doingdishes
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there are so many here now but there are a few that offer more services than just MMJ. the BCCCS has a dietican you can talk to. there's aroma therapy..they have a "wellness centre" that you can use or go to and that included in the membership. their MMJ varies in price and they have a daily special but if you want the non special strain, they charge per gram straight up. if they offered more services than MMJ, i would agree that their membership would be more valuable..they treat the person but the shops that only sell at high prices are the ones I think are messed up. no better than LP's
My wife went to several dr's over years asking them to sign the paperwork and they all refused. the guy who signed her into the BCCCS would not sign her paperwork for HC as he said the College was advising Dr's not to sign them...and he was no longer in public practice... Her pain Dr said he doesn't agree with smoking it. he got upset when we told him she would be eating it. he leaned towards me and said "I will NOT be signing her papers!" a past GP said she saw someone get addicted so she wouldn't sign because of that.
it was not easy for us to find a Dr who was MMJ friendly.
My wife went to several dr's over years asking them to sign the paperwork and they all refused. the guy who signed her into the BCCCS would not sign her paperwork for HC as he said the College was advising Dr's not to sign them...and he was no longer in public practice... Her pain Dr said he doesn't agree with smoking it. he got upset when we told him she would be eating it. he leaned towards me and said "I will NOT be signing her papers!" a past GP said she saw someone get addicted so she wouldn't sign because of that.
it was not easy for us to find a Dr who was MMJ friendly.
doingdishes
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i haven't been there in a while. i might have to see what they are up to. i used to love their cookies called "lil whoppers' but that was a long time ago