The big LED question...

mauricem00 · Oct 31, 2016

Yodaweed said:
Doesn't bridgelux make epistar and epiled's ? They are pretty much the worst quality LED on the market but like you said, people want those mars hydros and viparspecta lights for some reason...

some people. but HIDs are still the most popular lights among commercial growers. even indoor produce growers up here who sell premium produce to local markets use them and as a consumer i'm willing to pay a little extra for these locally grown, vine ripened tomatoes because they taste so much better. you can buy T5 grow lights at walmart and home depot.they are still the most popular lights for small home or closet grows.because of the short growing season up here many people start their vegetables indoors under fluorescent lights then move them outdoors to their garden after the last spring freeze.

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

theslipperbandit said:
Yeah I've been gandering for a while so will be doing a budmaster cobx4 in a 3x3 as veg light once I've the bucks for her so a journal will be posted cuz if all goes well I'll have the cobx9 in my flowering tent haha

I see Osram chips atlest, thats a good sign.
Still do your research, tehre are many COb companies and I would suggest a cxb3590 over any other COB if you can afford it, or Vero 29 or Citi.

Dankistino · Oct 31, 2016

Grown under 2 year old V29 4 cob set up

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

Dankistino said:
Grown under 2 year old V29 4 cob set upView attachment 3819152 View attachment 3819151 View attachment 3819150

Looks hella good. Have no idea why we are disputing COBS, its a proven fact they are the best lighting at this moment bar none.

Dankistino · Oct 31, 2016

mauricem00 · Oct 31, 2016

Trippyness said:
Par watts can be compared to any light as at Rahz stated.

so can lumens. it just doesn't mean anything to plants.plants see light differently than we do. compare the SPD of your light to the measured absorption spectrum of cannabis plants. if you did your research as you instructing others to do then you would know what plants use this spectrum thats missing from COBs for.you could learn a lot from experienced growers here

Kingrow1 · Oct 31, 2016

Point being i really dont think i will be investing thanks, hps will do till they get better leds on the market and the 50% extra yeild guys im not so sure about.

Dankistino · Oct 31, 2016

Kingrow1 said:
Point being i really dont think i will be investing thanks, hps will do till they get better leds on the market and the 50% extra yeild guys im not so sure about.

*yield

OK BYE

Dankistino · Oct 31, 2016

mauricem00 said:
so can lumens. it just doesn't mean anything to plants.plants see light differently than we do. compare the SPD of your light to the measured absorption spectrum of cannabis plants. if you did your research as you instructing others to do then you would know what plants use this spectrum thats missing from COBs for.you could learn a lot from experienced growers here

Incoherent rant! WTF are you trying to say. Please make sure these statements arent falling straight out of your ass. We've got enough of that for one day.

theslipperbandit · Oct 31, 2016

Trippyness said:
I see Osram chips atlest, thats a good sign.
Still do your research, tehre are many COb companies and I would suggest a cxb3590 over any other COB if you can afford it, or Vero 29 or Citi.

Check put the budmaster site mate its the cobx4 I'll be getting...quality build n ill do a propper journal on em from clones ive run under an array of lights

HydoDan · Oct 31, 2016

Trippyness said:
I cannot agree if someone is so wrong that it hurts newbies trying to learn.

I don't see anybody learning here. To opinionated to learn.. just like to argue.. can't see the truth.. leds are here to stay..
Running 6x 3590s at 50watts 8" on center.. beats the hell out of a 400 hps that pulls 465 watts...
I'm out!

theslipperbandit · Oct 31, 2016

http://www.budmaster.co.uk/COB-X-4.html that's the one I'll be getting n I've a pdf here to further prove the par output on given point is where shits at.
I don't like grow forum info cuz it gets very contradictory fairly fast so give this a read and you'll spot a good light a mile away (hope every1 liked my puns)

theslipperbandit · Oct 31, 2016

And argument is an equally THOUGHTOUT presentation of a point of view where the goal is to sway their opinion to that of yours all this is is a bunch of ignorant ppl arguing with ppl that actually know what they're on about but refuse to accept the truth lol the human mind Hates what it can't comprehend so they buy into gimmick like lux n shit

HydoDan said:
I don't see anybody learning here. To opinionated to learn.. just like to argue.. can't see the truth.. leds are here to stay..
Running 6x 3590s at 50watts 8" on center.. beats the hell out of a 400 hps that pulls 465 watts...
I'm out!

Gquebed · Oct 31, 2016

Trippyness said:
You can get 1.5+ with COB. Yield differnace per grow is well worth it.

Well... with cob it is my first grow and so i will consider myself a noob... and shoot for the 1gpw with my 4 week veg, promix and no scrog. I hear that is very achievable. And if it get that i will be quite happy.

But i intend to do much better in subsequent grows. And when i realign my space for these cobs i will go to scrog again...

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

Kingrow1 said:
Point being i really dont think i will be investing thanks, hps will do till they get better leds on the market and the 50% extra yeild guys im not so sure about.

Green Gene and Growmau5 on youtube, yield is there.

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

theslipperbandit said:
Check put the budmaster site mate its the cobx4 I'll be getting...quality build n ill do a propper journal on em from clones ive run under an array of lights

Just did looks like a soild light using Osram, however there are more efficient lights for the money.
But its def a good light and look forward to the jouurnal

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

mauricem00 said:
so can lumens. it just doesn't mean anything to plants.plants see light differently than we do. compare the SPD of your light to the measured absorption spectrum of cannabis plants. if you did your research as you instructing others to do then you would know what plants use this spectrum thats missing from COBs for.you could learn a lot from experienced growers here

Please stop with the goddamm LUMENS.
This is a plant forum not a decor lighting forum.
We speak PAR, PPFD, LER SDP CCT, not Lumens..

theslipperbandit · Oct 31, 2016

Thanks man I'm gonna keep it sure updated...not posted one since on my old account when riu deleted all the pics with their update the cunts

Trippyness · Oct 31, 2016

theslipperbandit said:
And argument is an equally THOUGHTOUT presentation of a point of view where the goal is to sway their opinion to that of yours all this is is a bunch of ignorant ppl arguing with ppl that actually know what they're on about but refuse to accept the truth lol the human mind Hates what it can't comprehend so they buy into gimmick like lux n shit

It should not even be an argument other than the people on the other side have no idea what they are talking about.
Its less of an argument and more of a one side does not comprehend information.
How the F*** can you come here amnd spew lumens.. lets see your LED grow vs your HPS grow.. likely isnt one just another LED hater.

theslipperbandit · Oct 31, 2016

Trippyness said:
Just did looks like a soild light using Osram, however there are more efficient lights for the money.
But its def a good light and look forward to the jouurnal

I think you'll find that pdf quite interesting it's entitled "principles of radiation measurement " addictive read I been at her the last 3 days

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