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OutdoIndo
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the only thing i dont like about norml is its all about the money, i live in florida and we (Pufmm.com)are currently trying to get 700,000 signatures for a petition to legalize mmj and guess what its free. all you have to do is sign petition and help get signatures. Ive never heard of any Norml meetings down here and what have they really done to help legalize mj. Thats not a statement thats a question what have they done i would like to know. They have done nothin for us at pufmm and we are closer to legalizing mmj than we ever have been no thanks to norml
tebor
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orginizations need money to function.
lobbyists cost money.
does pufmm lobby congress?
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What does NORML do?
NORML lobbies Congress and state legislatures for more rational and cost- effective marijuana policies. We provide expert witnesses for legislative hearings in support of marijuana reform legislation and to provide testimony to assist defendants charged with marijuana offenses. NORML also serves as a marijuana-law reform advocate with the media nationwide, publishes a periodic newsletter, and maintains a comprehensive web site, which includes a 50-state legislative tracking system, where visitors can inform themselves about the issue and send a free fax or an e-mail to their state and federal elected officials. In addition, we maintain a legal committee comprised of 350 criminal defense attorneys nationwide who specialize in the defense of individuals charged with marijuana-related offenses.[/FONT][/FONT]
NORML was founded in 1970 by Keith Stroup, funded by $5,000 from the Playboy Foundation. Since then, the organization has played a central role in the cannabis decriminalization movement. The organization has a large grassroots network with 135 chapters and over 550 lawyers. NORML holds both annual conferences and Continuing Legal Education (CLE)-accredited seminars.
n the 2006 United States midterm elections, NORML promoted several successful local initiatives that declared marijuana enforcement to be the lowest priority for local law enforcement
Norml has petitions
In 2009, NORML wrote a petition to President Barack Obama asking that he appoints a "Drug Czar" who will treat drug abuse as a health issue rather than a criminal issue and will move away from a "War on Drugs" paradigm. NORML's goal for this petition is 100,000 signatures.
Norml is hosting the sixth street smokeout.
lobbyists cost money.
does pufmm lobby congress?
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What does NORML do?
NORML lobbies Congress and state legislatures for more rational and cost- effective marijuana policies. We provide expert witnesses for legislative hearings in support of marijuana reform legislation and to provide testimony to assist defendants charged with marijuana offenses. NORML also serves as a marijuana-law reform advocate with the media nationwide, publishes a periodic newsletter, and maintains a comprehensive web site, which includes a 50-state legislative tracking system, where visitors can inform themselves about the issue and send a free fax or an e-mail to their state and federal elected officials. In addition, we maintain a legal committee comprised of 350 criminal defense attorneys nationwide who specialize in the defense of individuals charged with marijuana-related offenses.[/FONT][/FONT]
NORML was founded in 1970 by Keith Stroup, funded by $5,000 from the Playboy Foundation. Since then, the organization has played a central role in the cannabis decriminalization movement. The organization has a large grassroots network with 135 chapters and over 550 lawyers. NORML holds both annual conferences and Continuing Legal Education (CLE)-accredited seminars.
n the 2006 United States midterm elections, NORML promoted several successful local initiatives that declared marijuana enforcement to be the lowest priority for local law enforcement
Norml has petitions
In 2009, NORML wrote a petition to President Barack Obama asking that he appoints a "Drug Czar" who will treat drug abuse as a health issue rather than a criminal issue and will move away from a "War on Drugs" paradigm. NORML's goal for this petition is 100,000 signatures.
Norml is hosting the sixth street smokeout.
I understand that everything cost money to make it happen.So why isnt norml helping out us in Florida with this petition ,i couldnt find it on the web page we are closer than ever to passing mmj in Florida what has norml done to help this particular cause , it has to help each and every state doesnt it why cant they help Pufmm. is it because it would cut into Normls donations to help support another cause? If not let me know we really could use the help so please if yous are as good as you say you are help us out . It shouldnt be about the money its about helping educate the people on mmj and helping out the ones who really need it .We only have until February 2010 to get the required signatures time is running out so please pm me if you really think you can help if not then i guess i proved my point
Tebor the one thing that holds norml back is they want the full legalization of mj but it dont take a rocket scientist to realize that you take one state at a time and eventually it will be legal, if u growers from texas are waiting for norml to do somethimg for your state u will be waiting a long time ur best bet is to get in contact with Kim Russell (president of pufmm) and find out how she did it if not where ur norml ts and keep waitin
tebor
Well-Known Member
Puffm has a big red donate button on the top of their page.
they need funds just like NORML, just like MPP, just like, LEAP and others.
and acording to this article they are trying to raise $5 million.
According to this article Norml backed a local initiative in Jacksonville.
Article about Norml fighting drug testing in Florida.
and here is an article about a concert benefit to raise money for Fl Norml medical marijuana campaign.
and here Norml sues state of Florida for Paraquat spraying of marijuana fields.
article on Norml supporting a medical marijuana user on trial in FL.
I know for fact that NORML has testified before the state legislature here in Texas.
Plus I found this on a Norml Blog post:
Florida is NOT a legislative effort. It is a proposed statewide initiative that is in the signature gathering stage. This post and the Take Action Center page focus on legislation only. NORML generally tends not to report extensively on these efforts until after they have qualified for the ballot.
You can bet that once legislation is introduced by one of your state rep. that a NORML rep. will be there to testify before the state senate in support. They always do. And MPP too probably.
they need funds just like NORML, just like MPP, just like, LEAP and others.
and acording to this article they are trying to raise $5 million.
According to this article Norml backed a local initiative in Jacksonville.
Article about Norml fighting drug testing in Florida.
and here is an article about a concert benefit to raise money for Fl Norml medical marijuana campaign.
and here Norml sues state of Florida for Paraquat spraying of marijuana fields.
article on Norml supporting a medical marijuana user on trial in FL.
I know for fact that NORML has testified before the state legislature here in Texas.
Plus I found this on a Norml Blog post:
Florida is NOT a legislative effort. It is a proposed statewide initiative that is in the signature gathering stage. This post and the Take Action Center page focus on legislation only. NORML generally tends not to report extensively on these efforts until after they have qualified for the ballot.
You can bet that once legislation is introduced by one of your state rep. that a NORML rep. will be there to testify before the state senate in support. They always do. And MPP too probably.
tebor
Well-Known Member
Back to the subject of Texas.
why is HB 164 have the same status since Feb.? Is the house out of session?
anyway. All Texans should go to Texascompassion.com and support the bill. You can find out who your state Senator and Representitive are and then email them in support.
why is HB 164 have the same status since Feb.? Is the house out of session?
anyway. All Texans should go to Texascompassion.com and support the bill. You can find out who your state Senator and Representitive are and then email them in support.
silversurfer210
Member
nice read:
EL PASO The year was 1969, and as suburban American teenagers explored the exotic possibilities of the $10 lid about an ounce of marijuana, seeds, stems and all Vietnam vets were coming home as addicts and inner cities were being hit by heroin epidemics.
In June that year, President Richard Nixon declared drug abuse a serious national threat, and the mass media images of stoned Woodstock hippies that followed in August reinforced his warnings.
The broad enforcement program he launched soon became known as the war on drugs, and grew to become a multibillion-dollar effort focused on interdiction, destruction of foreign crops and harsh penalties for even minor offenses.
On its 40th anniversary, the drug war continues at a cost in blood, ruined lives and public dollars that Nixon could never have imagined.
Over the decades, calls to reassess the policy, or even end it, have had little effect.
Last week, as the year's toll of drug killings in nearby Ciudad Juárez moved steadily toward 1,800 among the latest a headless, tortured body found in a canal the debate finally came to the front line of the conflict: the border.
After 40 years and all the money spent, with U.S. consumption as high as ever, people languishing in prison for possession of soft drugs like marijuana and the violence in Mexico worse than ever, it seems to me that something has to change, said Kathleen Staudt, a professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, which hosted the U.S. War on Drugs conference.
More than two dozen drug experts, academics, border journalists and law enforcement officials gathered to compare notes for three days about drug policy, coming from Mexico, the United States and even Colombia.
Two seemingly unlikely advocates of radical change at the conference were Terry Nelson, a retired federal agent, and James Gray, a California state judge, both of whom once sent drug offenders to prison.
The global war on drugs is probably the greatest public policy failure of all time, said Nelson, who stalked traffickers in the Caribbean and Latin America during three decades with the U.S. Border Patrol, Customs and Department of Homeland Security.
The drug war has brought us the militarization of our police force, Nelson said. And it's killing our families when you put a mother or father in jail for smoking small amounts of marijuana.
Nelson said the answer is legalization, education and regulation, the treatment given two other dangerous but popular legal drugs, alcohol and tobacco.
Gray, a former federal prosecutor and now a silver-haired Republican judge in Orange County, has been arguing for reform since 1992, when he realized how many low-level drug users were being prosecuted.
We lead the world in incarceration of our own citizens, both in sheer numbers and on a per capita basis, he said, largely because of drug inmates.
Citing a public policy study that is best known for being ignored, he said, Sixteen years ago the Rand Corporation found that we get seven times more value for drug treatment than we do for law enforcement.
We cannot repeal the law of supply and demand. Maybe we should stop being moralists and start being managers, he said, despite the entrenched economic interests involved.
Defending the drug war
Over three days of discussion, one voice was heard loudly defending the present policy.
Ultimately what we are talking about is the obligation of the state to protect its citizens, said Anthony Placido, who leads the Drug Enforcement Administration's intelligence program.
It's about mind-altering substances that destroy human life and create the violence you see only a few blocks from here, he said.
His presentation depicted meth-ravaged American housewives, the butchered bodies of Mexican drug soldiers and brain scans that purported to show dead spots caused by heavy marijuana use.
We went to war after 9-11 when 3,100 people were killed. Thirty-eight thousand die every year in this country from drugs, he said, adding that decriminalization would bring further harm.
With Ciudad Juárez in sharp relief just across the border from the UTEP campus, Mexicans joined their American counterparts in a search for common policy ground between the world's largest consumer of illegal drugs and the supplier of much of them.
The Mexican academics showed no enthusiasm for legalization of drugs in the U.S. The abyss remains wide, according to one Mexican border journalist who paraphrased former Mexican President Porfirio Diaz to make his point.
Poor USA. So close to Mexico, so far from Mexican reality, was the cryptic assessment of Ramon Cantu, editor of El Mañana of Nuevo Laredo, where, three years ago, a reporter was badly wounded in a narco attack on the newspaper office.
Taboo topic
The conference headliner was Sergio Fajardo Valderrama, a candidate for the Colombian presidency who helped bring peace to Medellin, once the most dangerous city on the planet because of wholesale drug killings.
On Monday night, Fajardo drew more than 2,000 anxious listeners to a Greek-themed reception hall in Ciudad Juárez with a speech about the revitalization of Medellin, a turnaround centered on police reform and dramatic public works projects, such as libraries and schools, in poor neighborhoods.
Noticeably absent from the gathering were two members of the Obama administration Drug Czar Gil Kerlikowske and Border Czar Alan Bersin, who, according to Staudt, were invited but at the last minute declined to attend or send a representative.
The conversation was more choir practice than robust debate, as a consensus emerged that the enforcement-driven policy isn't working.
But, as one speaker reminded everyone, just talking about loosening drug policy remains the dangerous third-rail of American politics.
You touch it, and you're dead, she said.
Among the options examined were decriminalizing drug possession, with options ranging from marijuana to hard drugs, and treating drug abuse as a medical and social problem, rather than a crime.
A recent move in Mexico to decriminalize small amounts of drugs and a ruling by the Argentine Supreme Court that it is illegal for police to prosecute personal drug use buoyed arguments for legalization.
With the cartel drug war in Ciudad Juárez still raging, the man most responsible for bringing the drug debate to the border vowed not to rest.
We, as a community, are now armed with so much information, we can exert more pressure on our elected leaders, said El Paso Councilman Beto O'Rourke, who in January introduced a controversial resolution calling for an open discussion of all options on drug policy.
In this community, we may not all agree on the solution, but we all agree on the problem, he said. And it's hard to imagine that you could create a policy that would be more harmful.
tebor
Well-Known Member
The Link:
Sixth Street Smokeout
The Fourth Annual Sixth Street Smokeout will be held on Saturday, October 17th, 2009, at Momos Club (http://www.momosclub.com) in Austin, Texas.
The 6th Street Smokeout is now a yearly institution for Texas NORML, and this years 4th Annual promises to be as Austin as you can get. Featuring 5 local bands, a multimedia light show produced by Charles Beard, vendor booths from local head shops & artists, and food available from the Mellow Mushroom (http://mellowmushroom.com/), as well as sponsors like 420 Science, http://420science.com/ & High Times, http://hightimes.com/, the 4th Annual 6th St Smokeout is a cant miss event!
Schedule:
7:00pm Doors open
7:45-8:45 The Upper Echelon, www.myspace.com/theupperechelonrock
8:55-9:55 Dertybird, www.myspace.com/dertybirdmusic
10:10-11:10 Champagne with Friends, www.myspace.com/thomaschampagne
11:25-12:10 Graham Wilkinson & The Underground Township, www.myspace.com/undergroundtownship
12:20-1:40 Dubkids featuring Judge, www.myspace.com/dubkids
The charge for admission is $10. Texas NORML members get in for $5.