doublejj
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they need to learn to code......
Tesla New Model Unveil...
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TacoMac
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It's not about that. It's about the law. Why should every automaker on the planet have to have dealerships and service centers to sell cars and Tesla shouldn't?they need to learn to code......
I know how fangirl you are about all things Tesla, but that's full of shit.
UncleBuck
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the holiday inn in san antonio texas won't let me book a hotel room for april 7-9 2024
texas is dead to me now
Fogdog
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Texas voted for Trump. Fuck 'em. Republicans are the ones who are such fans of deregulation, but not for autos?
Oregon doesn't have a ban on direct sales and the car dealership business is doing fine. This is all just a red herring. Tesla has already found that existing car dealerships aren't good partners for them. They don't understand the EV market. The don't know how to service Tesla cars. They have had cases where the dealer redirected the customer to conventional autos. Tesla would rather spend money training their own service people, not Ford, Chevy or Toyota's.
If you can't compete, cheat. That's the GOP way.
Oregon doesn't have a ban on direct sales and the car dealership business is doing fine. This is all just a red herring. Tesla has already found that existing car dealerships aren't good partners for them. They don't understand the EV market. The don't know how to service Tesla cars. They have had cases where the dealer redirected the customer to conventional autos. Tesla would rather spend money training their own service people, not Ford, Chevy or Toyota's.
If you can't compete, cheat. That's the GOP way.
doublejj
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why should there be a law demanding this?....no good reason for this stupid law except Big Oil lobbying for ICE vehicles.....
TacoMac
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You really need to pull your head out of your ass. It has NOTHING to do with "big oil".
It has primarily to do with federal and state franchising laws. There is no such thing as a "Ford Owned" dealership. Dealerships are franchises that are independently owned and operated. The dealerships pay money to the automakers in much the same way as a McDonald's franchise does the same thing.
It's been that way since the early 1900's for many things, not just cars. Franchise laws in the vast majority of states strictly forbid manufacturers (of most any product) from selling directly to the public. It's not just cars. It's many, many things.
Try going directly to Honeywell to buy an air conditioning compressor.
Try going directly to General Electric to buy a refrigerator.
It's simply not done.
That's why Tesla built all of those stores to begin with: to sell his cars and batteries. He just figured (because he didn't bother to check, like most things he does) that he could shut them all down and sell over the internet directly.
Then, of course, he found out he couldn't in most states because of the very same franchise laws that forbid anybody else (in MOST cases) from doing the same thing.
Get "big oil" out of your head. They have absolutely nothing on earth to do with it.
EDIT TO ADD: Big oil is regulated by those very same laws. There is no such thing as a Shell owned gas station. They are all franchises. You can't go to Valvoline and buy oil for your oil change. You go to Walmart.
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doublejj
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It's just crazy Texans......You cannot even buy a craft beer directly from the brewer in Texas. Craft brewers have to sell there beer to a distributor and buy it back just to server their own beer in their own taps......
Auto dealerships are America's most powerful middlemen
https://www.chron.com/business/texanomics/article/Auto-dealerships-are-the-most-powerful-middlemen-11188891.php
"Three times, Tesla has attempted to persuade the Texas legislature to allow it to sell its electric cars directly to consumers, bypassing the dealerships that current law protects. Three times, following the death of the latest bill last week, it has failed.
And again, at a time when the internet is squeezing out all forms of brokers and middlemen, the more than 16,000 auto dealers in America have proven astonishingly difficult to dislodge.
The way they've done it is no mystery, of course. Originally, car manufacturers operated through franchised dealers as a more convenient way to reach customers. Over time, those dealers started advocating for themselves, winning passage of laws in all 50 states that require automakers to sell through intermediaries — their dealerships.
Now, they're a powerful lobby, as both small business owners in every American city and as large public companies like Houston's own Group 1 Automotive. In the run-up to the 2013 legislative session, according to calculations by the advocacy group Texans for Public Justice, dealership interests spent $2.5 million on campaign contributions and $780,000 on lobbying. Tesla spent less than half that.
Money speaks volumes, even to Texas legislators supposedly committed to free markets and less regulation, as they've already demonstrated this session in requiring craft breweries to sell their product to a distributor and then buy it back before they can serve it in their own taprooms. And in the case of cars, as with beer, consumers lose out. "
Auto dealerships are America's most powerful middlemen
https://www.chron.com/business/texanomics/article/Auto-dealerships-are-the-most-powerful-middlemen-11188891.php
"Three times, Tesla has attempted to persuade the Texas legislature to allow it to sell its electric cars directly to consumers, bypassing the dealerships that current law protects. Three times, following the death of the latest bill last week, it has failed.
And again, at a time when the internet is squeezing out all forms of brokers and middlemen, the more than 16,000 auto dealers in America have proven astonishingly difficult to dislodge.
The way they've done it is no mystery, of course. Originally, car manufacturers operated through franchised dealers as a more convenient way to reach customers. Over time, those dealers started advocating for themselves, winning passage of laws in all 50 states that require automakers to sell through intermediaries — their dealerships.
Now, they're a powerful lobby, as both small business owners in every American city and as large public companies like Houston's own Group 1 Automotive. In the run-up to the 2013 legislative session, according to calculations by the advocacy group Texans for Public Justice, dealership interests spent $2.5 million on campaign contributions and $780,000 on lobbying. Tesla spent less than half that.
Money speaks volumes, even to Texas legislators supposedly committed to free markets and less regulation, as they've already demonstrated this session in requiring craft breweries to sell their product to a distributor and then buy it back before they can serve it in their own taprooms. And in the case of cars, as with beer, consumers lose out. "
doublejj
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You can buy a craft beer directly from the brewer in Cali......why not Texas?
TacoMac
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*sigh*
FRANCHISE LAWS. AND IT ISN'T JUST TEXAS!
For the 5th time at least.
You can't buy craft beer direct here in Georgia either. Well, you can but you can't. You can buy a beer at the brewer, but you have to drink it there. And they just passed that law two years ago. Before then, you had to buy it at a store. You still can't buy it from the brewer to take it home. There are several other states with similar laws.
Pal, there are presently 16 states you can NOT buy a Tesla in right now:
Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas.
So why are you ONLY picking on Texas?
What's more, of the states that allow Tesla to sell, these states have put limits on how many stores he can have:
Colorado (1), North Carolina (1), Virginia (2), Georgia (5, but we only have 1 about 20 miles from my house), Maryland (4), New Jersey (4), New York (5), Ohio (3), Pennsylvania (5).
Read more. Fangirl over Tesla less.
doublejj
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They're all RED states.....what is it with republicans?
"Pal, there are presently 16 states you can NOT buy a Tesla in right now:
Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas."...
"Pal, there are presently 16 states you can NOT buy a Tesla in right now:
Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas."...
TacoMac
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When did Connecticut go red?They're all RED states.....what is it with republicans?
doublejj
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Connecticut is red in blue clothing.....Save Tesla, vote republicans out.
Unclebaldrick
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bump
doublejj
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Imported car sales slow in Korea on parts shortage, Tesla Model Y becomes top seller
Sales of imported vehicles in South Korea gained a modest 3.5 percent in May compared to a year earlier, with Tesla’s Model Y becoming the best-selling import car after elbowing out Koreans’ long-term favorite Mercedes-Benz E Class models.
Sales of imported vehicles in South Korea gained a modest 3.5 percent in May compared to a year earlier, with Tesla’s Model Y becoming the best-selling import car after elbowing out Koreans’ long-term favorite Mercedes-Benz E Class models.
Imported car sales slow in Korea on parts shortage, Tesla Model Y becomes top seller - Pulse by Maeil Business News Korea
Sales of imported vehicles in South Korea gained a modest 3.5 percent in May compared to a year earlier, with Tesla’s Model Y becoming the best-selling import car after elbowing out Koreans’ long-term favorite Mercedes-Be
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CunningCanuk
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Man. Taco had a hate on for Tesla for a while. Lol.
It’s funny.
It’s funny.
Budley Doright
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Yes it’s almost as if he was anally raped by a Tesla
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TacoMac
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Tesla shares drop on report of steep May sales decline in China
Investors were shaken by a single-sourced report that Tesla net orders in China had nearly halved between April and May.
Tesla's China orders fall by nearly half in May - report
The company's monthly net orders in China dropped to about 9,800 in May from more than 18,000 in April, the report https://bit.ly/3phOPE4 said, sending shares down nearly 5% in afternoon trading. Tesla did not immediately respond to a request from Reuters for comment. China is the electric car...
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Rob Roy
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Speaking of subsidies. "Big corn" and high fructose corn syrup. End subsidies for that shit. In fact end ALL redistributive theft based subsidies for business. Redistribution from one person(s) to another person(s) that isn't done on an individual voluntary basis is theft. Elon Musk built Tesla on stolen money. Send that bitch to Mars in a Tesla!
Buy a Tesla for your kids future? Lol. Hell no! And take that goddamn cell phone away from the lazy little fuckers! Make them pay for their own or they'll end up whiny entitled liberals.
Peritoneum? Were you just talking out your ass?
