--tech209'z 400w hps 8sq'z closet SOG hindu kush log--

Tech sometimes I do believe your a godsend but maybe it's just because I just got back from cleaning toilets so I could start up a grow hmmm that must be it Thanks for all your help bro I really appreciate it this bong toke is for you!

hahahahhaha koo thanx lizard...n e time man thats what im/were here for .....to trade tips and help those that are in need.....i was a newb with lots of questions at a point and like always rollitup was their to give me most of my answers in a quick short period of time .....good luck bro and keep me posted ........thanx for the bong rip......

*as Lizard King gets on his knees and prays to the almighty light answering God Tech209*

Oh brave and wise Tech209 I have one last light question. For my CFL's they don't need to be full spec right? I do have one full spec bulb but these superstore ones are not. And it says

" 4000 lumens sq. ft./43000 lumens sq. m. = Very good growth. Once you pass around 3500, growth rate and ability goes up fast."

Well I'm going to be able to produce 4800 lumens so is this only good for a foot of room? Like lets say my grow room was 3 sqaure feet the plants wouldn't get enough light am I correct? Or even if the sqaure footage was 2 feet would they still not be able to get the love they need. K LOL I'm almost done do the plants have to be a certain length away cause I've read that they should be 3 feet away but then I see pictures of peoples plants in a sea of green or where they have 5 plants all real close does the length away from the plants really matter?

Thanks for the 20th time haha your great man

Lizard.King said:

*as Lizard King gets on his knees and prays to the almighty light answering God Tech209*

Oh brave and wise Tech209 I have one last light question. For my CFL's they don't need to be full spec right? I do have one full spec bulb but these superstore ones are not. And it says

" 4000 lumens sq. ft./43000 lumens sq. m. = Very good growth. Once you pass around 3500, growth rate and ability goes up fast."

Well I'm going to be able to produce 4800 lumens so is this only good for a foot of room? Like lets say my grow room was 3 sqaure feet the plants wouldn't get enough light am I correct? Or even if the sqaure footage was 2 feet would they still not be able to get the love they need. K LOL I'm almost done do the plants have to be a certain length away cause I've read that they should be 3 feet away but then I see pictures of peoples plants in a sea of green or where they have 5 plants all real close does the length away from the plants really matter?

Thanks for the 20th time haha your great man

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hey wuts sup lizard king glad to help u out bro and yes thats correct about any where between 4000lumens per sq to 6000lumens will give you a great grow man
also make sure the lights are as close to the plant as possible....i would put the pots as close as i can together so that no light can be wasted....as for the cfls just go for the ones 2700k-23 watt warm white cfls that they sell just about any store now days ......no problem with helpin out a fellow rollitup.org member .....keep on growin .............

2700 k's? I remember seeing something about K I can't remember I did see them on my full spec light but I just got myself acquainted with Lumens and I can't believe I actually spelled acquainted right dear god. I'll check out Canadian Tire tomorrow but Superstores 23 watts I do believe are soft white bulbs because the lumens for the 23's are only 1600.

Here this is my superstore selection:

4 CFL's 13 W = 850 Lumens each bulb for 10 bucks
1 CFL 40 W = 2600 Lumens for the one bulb at 16 bucks
2 CFL's 23 W = 1600 Lumens for each bulb at 9 bucks

I'll still check out Canadian tire but in case they dont have any what would you pick out of that selection for the most effcient and best way. And how many do you think I could fit into the grow area. Which on the graph that I saw would be 1 sq ft every 4000 lumens.

Oh by the way I just found the casing to my Full Spec bulb

6400 degrees K (kelvin?)
2500 Lumens

Thanks again

I plan on breeding a few strains together I think I'm going to have to name it Tech209 just because of all this back breaking help you've given me hahaha

Lizard.King said:

2700 k's? I remember seeing something about K I can't remember I did see them on my full spec light but I just got myself acquainted with Lumens and I can't believe I actually spelled acquainted right dear god. I'll check out Canadian Tire tomorrow but Superstores 23 watts I do believe are soft white bulbs because the lumens for the 23's are only 1600.

Here this is my superstore selection:

4 CFL's 13 W = 850 Lumens each bulb for 10 bucks
1 CFL 40 W = 2600 Lumens for the one bulb at 16 bucks
2 CFL's 23 W = 1600 Lumens for each bulb at 9 bucks

I'll still check out Canadian tire but in case they dont have any what would you pick out of that selection for the most effcient and best way. And how many do you think I could fit into the grow area. Which on the graph that I saw would be 1 sq ft every 4000 lumens.

Oh by the way I just found the casing to my Full Spec bulb

6400 degrees K (kelvin?)
2500 Lumens

Thanks again

I plan on breeding a few strains together I think I'm going to have to name it Tech209 just because of all this back breaking help you've given me hahaha

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howdy mr.lizard:

usually whenever you buy a cfl there should be 2700k marked right on the packageing....from the graph that you had provided me ill go with the 23watt insted of the 40w if thats the price in ur area ....to get more in detail on what im talking about......lets say you picked up 2-40w cfls for a total of 32 bucks which equals to about 5200 lumens total from just those 2 at 40w a piece....now lets look at the 23w cfls.......you can get 4 at 9 bucks a piece which brings to a total of 36 bucks but now insted of having 5200 lumens from the 40w you now have 6400 lumens which is a 4 dollar difference .....so ill go with the 23w at those prices you have provided me........as for the other question in how many u can fit in ur area.......skys the limit bro throw in as much as you can...well as much as your wallet can handle if you are going with a full cfl grow make sure you get plenty of lighting around your babies....check out my gallery so you can get an idea of what im talking about.....if you can locate y-adapters i highly recommend them....as to you refering to 6500k......thats whats called a daylight cfl which will give you a blue lighting which is very very very usefull for vegg { check out the first couple pages on this grow journal to see what im talking about} rather then a red lightingwhich is ideal for flowering.....wow pretty cool to have my rollitup name as your plants name to my advice to you ....if this is ur first grow and you dont want to put a hole then i do suggest using the cfl route thru out ur whole grow.....also if this is your first time....dont sweat it bro ...ur bound to make mistakes in ur first grow which is nothing wrong with that...i messed up on my first grow too{ well not messed up but could have done some changes that could have given me a better yield} you'll learn from your mistakes......good luck bro and keep me posted................

Arite bro thanks perfect timing because I'm just heading to the store. Now you said my 6500 k bulb (the full spec) would be good for vegging so I couldn't use it for flowering?

naw..... the 2700k is more ideal for flowering ...but u can throw a couple of 6500k in their to give ur babies a blue/red mix of light ...........

Hey man how's it goin? Just got back from the store picked up some jiffy pucks to start the plants off tell me something with the pucks do I have to place them on anything and do I just put the seed on the puck and water? I'll check out the instructions. But yeah I picked up 4 23 watters as you said and bought a couple y splitters so after a little wiring I'll get a picture up to show you your hard work haha I also picked up a bag of Miracle Grow Moisture Control as I read it worked really good. When should I stick the pucks into soil? I'm just going to make a plate of nachos and fire up the vaporizer how about another hoot on Tech209?

Lizard.King said:

Hey man how's it goin? Just got back from the store picked up some jiffy pucks to start the plants off tell me something with the pucks do I have to place them on anything and do I just put the seed on the puck and water? I'll check out the instructions. But yeah I picked up 4 23 watters as you said and bought a couple y splitters so after a little wiring I'll get a picture up to show you your hard work haha I also picked up a bag of Miracle Grow Moisture Control as I read it worked really good. When should I stick the pucks into soil? I'm just going to make a plate of nachos and fire up the vaporizer how about another hoot on Tech209?

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sound like a deal bro .....deff keep me posted with some pics ...as far as the jiffy ...havent used them before but good luck man .............

mr tech av just got back from the real hindukush mountains, and of course i came back with some little goodies,dying to crack em open,but am not trying that till i get a good soil recipe. anyone know one? I wanna taste real flavour not chems i done a bit of work late last year with a professional organic magician and it was the best smoke i've ever had in my life plus the cleanest obviously!!! he makes the supersoil where he feeds it with pure water through its entire life cycle,but in the flowering stage he gives it suger cane moleisis twice depending on the strain it could be more.....but he does'nt like to share his tricks but he did give me a little mix, which am trying right now not looking good i know its not as magic as his own of course. CAN ANYONE HELP!!!! Vic especially. ......[/quote]

Mr Tec just got back from the hindu kush mountains, brought back back some little goodies of course, am not going to crackem until i am satisfied i have a good soil recipe.... I did a bit of work last year with an organic magician it was the best smoke I've ever had!! and the cleanest. We fed the ladies on water their entire life cycle apart from a couple of feeds of sugarcane moleisis in the flowering stage.... but the magician dont like sharing his tricks.I have a mix which i posted on the forum earlier,i am working with it now its in final stage of flowering but even though its got its individual smells,yield is very poor am left with popcorn nuggets everywhere not one dick in sight!! I have had better results in my old chemmy days yield-wise,dont know about taste yet.Can you or anyone else help......Vic especially....

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Mr Tec just got back from the hindu kush mountains, brought back back some little goodies of course, am not going to crackem until i am satisfied i have a good soil recipe.... I did a bit of work last year with an organic magician it was the best smoke I've ever had!! and the cleanest. We fed the ladies on water their entire life cycle apart from a couple of feeds of sugarcane moleisis in the flowering stage.... but the magician dont like sharing his tricks.I have a mix which i posted on the forum earlier,i am working with it now its in final stage of flowering but even though its got its individual smells,yield is very poor am left with popcorn nuggets everywhere not one dick in sight!! I have had better results in my old chemmy days yield-wise,dont know about taste yet.Can you or anyone else help......Vic especially....

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hey there....from what i learned i rather just pick up a good name brand of soil and from what alot of people on this forum will tell you....either Fox Farm Ocean Forest or Black gold works very well ....this is my first time working with FF soil but time will tell and ill be posting pics on my progress and results ....what is your lighting set-up??????? how long into flowering are you?????there has been lots of debates on this and plenty of other forums on which is more yield soil or hydro ......alot of people say hydro give you more yield and as for organic {soil} it gives you rather less yield but great tasting bud vs the hydro chemical tasting buds.....and this is all from doing my homework but i havent done any hydro yet to really back this theory up...as far as organic for nutes just search around from some organic TEA recipes ...........

Arite my pot growing messiah I have brought you Mir and Frankenscentes and don't forget the...wait a minute!

Arite so I just finished fucking around with the wiring which was a bit of a pain in the ass but I got it set up however it looks pretty brutal with the cord I used to hold up my lights no worries within a day or two I'll get that fixed I still gotta order my seeds I'm a few bucks short but I only live 6 hours away from the seed bank so its not like it will take weeks for them to get here

But I've been up for 20 hours so I think I'm going to bed talk to yea later tech

I loaded the lights up and of course my lizard king tattoo...he is pleased haha

Lizard.King said:

Arite my pot growing messiah I have brought you Mir and Frankenscentes and don't forget the...wait a minute!

Arite so I just finished fucking around with the wiring which was a bit of a pain in the ass but I got it set up however it looks pretty brutal with the cord I used to hold up my lights no worries within a day or two I'll get that fixed I still gotta order my seeds I'm a few bucks short but I only live 6 hours away from the seed bank so its not like it will take weeks for them to get here

But I've been up for 20 hours so I think I'm going to bed talk to yea later tech

I loaded the lights up and of course my lizard king tattoo...he is pleased haha

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good job bro start a journal for shure ....would like to see ur progress .....

Yeah once I get my seeds I'm totally doing it thanks for allllllllll your help Tech
Oh and I added the full spec bulb into my veg room. I'm going to see about getting a squirrel cage and make a carbon filter.
Yeah with the Jiffy pellets how big do they get till there good to put in soil?

I think the two big plants should be close to the middle with the little guys around, but thats just me.

robbie82 said:

I think the two big plants should be close to the middle with the little guys around, but thats just me.

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thats what i was thinkin but after watching jorge cervantes utimate grow he states that bigger plants should be at the ends where the smaller ones should be in the middle................

Alright pretty stoked for today I start germination of my AK47 by the way heres the update on the grow room I'm going to start the journal in a couple days helll yeaaa

Alright so I start germinating my AK47 seeds today and I'm ordering my BC God Bud and BC Mango Bud seeds from Marijuana Seeds, Cannabis Seeds Online. Heres the almost finished veg room and with that in a couple days the journal will be started.