Taking too long to flower?

Scroga said:

Chemicals...yumm

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do u have a cleaner natural method of stopping a long sativa strech cycle and bringing on earlier flower set? if so i would love to know cuz 1) paclobutrazol is very pricey at hydro stores 2) like u said its a chemical. im only a fan of its performance not its potential side effects. everything ive read says it lasts in the plant for a very short period so as long as u dont use it in late flower which would be pointless...things are fine. i haven't used it in years but i also got away from all 20+ day streching phenos due to this reason for the most part.

I cant imagine them being in flower that long and not budding...They must be males. At least thats all I can think of...Weird shit in my book. But my book is short so take it for whats iits worth...lol...Good luck!

What ARE you using for flower schedule?
You mentioned how long in, but not what you were using.
Reason I ask, was I am experimenting with mine right now, and tried running 13/11 when I flipped, to simulate the long days of Summer, but after 28-30 days with just mostly stretching and no bud growth, I switched to 11/13, like the short days towards end of season, and WOW. Within 13 days, I had good growth.

They certainly ain't male. They just started showing some white hairs when i checked on them today, 22 days in. Mainly on the Kush plant, but the 3 lemons are literally just starting to show some white hairs also

I've giveen them all a good pruning and I'll report back in a few days (maybe with pics).

Cheers for the help everyone

P.S i switched from 18/6 to 12/12 on the 1st December with no dark period (Didn't know it was advised to give em a dark period at the time). I would say i will be giving them 24 or 48 hours of darkness on my next grow but I'm guna try some automatics once these ladies are finished.

Sensi123 said:

I've giveen them all a good pruning and I'll report back in a few days (maybe with pics).

Cheers for the help everyone

P.S i switched from 18/6 to 12/12 on the 1st December with no dark period (Didn't know it was advised to give em a dark period at the time). I would say i will be giving them 24 or 48 hours of darkness on my next grow but I'm guna try some automatics once these ladies are finished.

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Dont prune them... you only do that in the vegetative stage.. not while theyre budding.. You dont have to give them 24-48 hours of darkness to get them to flower.. But I do give mine 36-48 hours of darkness. Its pretty much personal preference... Try giving them 13 hours of darkness and 11 hours of light.

cobra28widow said:

Dont prune them... you only do that in the vegetative stage.. not while theyre budding.. You dont have to give them 24-48 hours of darkness to get them to flower.. But I do give mine 36-48 hours of darkness. Its pretty much personal preference... Try giving them 13 hours of darkness and 11 hours of light.

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Surely the whole point of pruning is so the plant puts all its energy into bud production not growing some big ol' fan leaves that ain't no good to me. I'm going to leave the lights at 12/12 as they seem to be coming along now, just taking longer than anticipated. it will be worth the wait im sure

Look bro, pruning is only gonna prolong what the original question was...Why arent they flowering...Dont fuck with um...Deff dont remove "Fan leaves" thats where they get their juice from in the first place my friend...

If your getting signs of buds from yesterday or when ever it was that those pics came from then leave um alone....Messing with um will only slow the whole thing down again...REALY!

Sensi123 said:

Surely the whole point of pruning is so the plant puts all its energy into bud production not growing some big ol' fan leaves that ain't no good to me...

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Unless removing lower spindly-growth (which isn't receiving adequate light), removing healthy fan leaves can actually be detrimental. If it ain't almost dead/severely damaged, it might be best to leaf it on =)

GL!

sacpirate said:

do u have a cleaner natural method of stopping a long sativa strech cycle and bringing on earlier flower set? if so i would love to know cuz 1) paclobutrazol is very pricey at hydro stores 2) like u said its a chemical. im only a fan of its performance not its potential side effects. everything ive read says it lasts in the plant for a very short period so as long as u dont use it in late flower which would be pointless...things are fine. i haven't used it in years but i also got away from all 20+ day streching phenos due to this reason for the most part.

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To be honest ive never done a pure sativa but I am a big fan of supercropping and do it to my hybrids a lot probably more
than I should! Lol, even during flower! Its natural and promotes more branching/flower sites therefore less vertical growth...it won't bring it on any sooner..maybe you should try doing 12/12 from seed if your going to get huge stretch or get a scrog net up...also as I said earlier excess nitrogen in your medium when your trying to flip is said to DELAY flowering..... Hope this helps..

im very familiar with both above techniques and just harvested my first scrog. lookn like 2lb outta 15 og kush on a 3x6 table and 2k so im happy lol. i do have sum east coast sour d that ima only veg till i see roots out the 4" cube...bout 3 days. this pheno grows strait up and has super thick stems that break way to easy to scrog or lst...at least imo

sacpirate said:

im very familiar with both above techniques and just harvested my first scrog. lookn like 2lb outta 15 og kush on a 3x6 table and 2k so im happy lol. i do have sum east coast sour d that ima only veg till i see roots out the 4" cube...bout 3 days. this pheno grows strait up and has super thick stems that break way to easy to scrog or lst...at least imo

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Maybe top or fim directly before switching schedules....your a successful grower, im just trying to help the new guy....

I'm back... been in flower for 5 and a half weeks now and I'm still convinced something is wrong. the kush plant is now showing strong signs of sex, the biggest lemon is also showing nice signs of sex but nowhere near as much as the kush. and well the 2 little ones still pretty much look asif there still vegging
all is still way too slow, the lemon skunks from greenhouse take 9 weeks till finished, and 5.5 weeks in only the biggest plant has got small clusters of white hairs.

i've brought some dutch pro Explode to see if that helps. also all possible light leeks have been blocked off.

Heres a few things i think it could be, can anyone shed any light on any of these potential problems? (using a recirculating hydroponic system, 'wilma 4 pot')

solution in water tank too cold. (dont know temps but its pretty cold to the touch)

not getting enough nutrient (plants absorbing it all first few waters with fresh solution then the drain away will fall back into the tank with lower nute levels to be pumped back into the plants. (i change the solution to fresh stuff every few weeks) however im going to get a nute meter thingy so i can measure the nutes and make sure it keeps topped up so i dont have to change the solution every few weeks.

the 2 small plants not being close enough to the light could be whats stopping them from showing signs of sex like the bigger pair? (see pics)


sorry for the shitty picture quality.



shitty close up of kush


shitty close up of lemon skunk

Sensi123 said:

I'm back... been in flower for 5 and a half weeks now and I'm still convinced something is wrong. the kush plant is now showing strong signs of sex, the biggest lemon is also showing nice signs of sex but nowhere near as much as the kush. and well the 2 little ones still pretty much look asif there vegging
all is still way too slow, the lemon skunks from greenhouse take 9 weeks to finished, and 5.5 weeks in its only got small clusters of white hairs.

i've brought some dutch pro Explode to see if that helps. also all possible light leeks have been blocked off.

Heres a few things i think it could be, can anyone shed any light on any of these potential problems? (using a recirculating hydroponic system, 'wilma 4 pot')

solution in water tank too cold. (dont know temps but its pretty cold to the touch)

not getting enough nutrient (plants absorbing it all first few waters with fresh solution then the drain away will fall back into the tank with lower nute levels to be pumped back into the plants. (i change the solution to fresh stuff every few weeks) however im going to order a meter so i can measure the nutes and make sure it keeps topped up so i dont have to change the solution every few weeks.


i would post pics but the quality of my camera suggests its really not worth it..

cheers

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Have to ask even if asked before - are you sure you have no light leaks of any sort? No LED lights on equipment in the room? Flowering is controlled by light and by light only with marijuana. It cannot be chemically induced by nutrients. I am not talking about flower or bud development after flowering has begun but the actual onset of flowering with its progression.

hotrodharley said:

Have to ask even if asked before - are you sure you have no light leaks of any sort? No LED lights on equipment in the room? Flowering is controlled by light and by light only with marijuana. It cannot be chemically induced by nutrients. I am not talking about flower or bud development after flowering has begun but the actual onset of flowering with its progression.

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