Take a chance with bag seed? Or trust the seed sellers?

Hempire828 · Mar 19, 2020

I couldn’t resist.. got some fire from a sack of gg4.. she had that chocolate taste.. found a seed.. I said why not...I really don’t know if it was a hermie or if a male was around.. I do know they are known to hermie.. I’m not calling this a gg4.. but I guess a pheno.. any how I took clones just Incase I like her... It’s a sativa leaner.. day 19 of flower.. don’t see any balls yet but I can say she been a tad stressed.. so who knows.. got some bad yellowing near the bottom... sorta frosty but small buds tho.. I gotta figure this plant out..

farmingfisherman · Mar 19, 2020

Hempire828 said:
I couldn’t resist.. got some fire from a sack of gg4.. she had that chocolate taste.. found a seed.. I said why not...I really don’t know if it was a hermie or if a male was around.. I do know they are known to hermie.. I’m not calling this a gg4.. but I guess a pheno.. any how I took clones just Incase I like her... It’s a sativa leaner.. day 19 of flower.. don’t see any balls yet but I can say she been a tad stressed.. so who knows.. got some bad yellowing near the bottom... sorta frosty but small buds tho.. I gotta figure this plant out..View attachment 4508817 View attachment 4508819 View attachment 4508820

What kind of light are you using?

Hempire828 · Mar 19, 2020

260 v1 13/11 15watt far red at end of cycle...normally run 315 cmh..but wanted to try the qb's.

Qube · Mar 19, 2020

I grew this from bagseed this past year. Came from a dispensary labeled as Blue Widow. I bought 1/2 oz and found 1 seed. It started throwing "nanners" about week 4 of 12/12. Every bud popped nanners right on top like Alfalfa from the little rascals. I harvested about 6-7 oz from that one plant and not one seed.

These pics are from the day of the chop at 76 days of 12/12.

The 3rd pic is a macro of one of the nanners. You can really see how they got that name.

Richard Drysift · Mar 19, 2020

Logan Burke said:
Sorry I should've phrased that a bit better lol, I mean that bag seeds are more likely to carry hermie genes even if the current generation doesn't hermie on ya. But it doesn't mean that the bud will be any less potent or yield be any less. If grown in good conditions, you should be able to grow one without it hermie'ing at all.

True; you can grow killer bud from bag seed but it’s not easy to stay consistent this way. I used to get herms from bag seed that wreaked havoc on the yield so had to do something. Honestly one of the best moves I ever made was to order breeder stock seed. No fems or autos only regular photo period seed from a reputed breeder. Get a couple ten packs of proven genetics...TGA comes to mind; RIP subcool...and grow those out. Select a boy and cross with a few select girls. First harvest will suck but you’ll have killer genetics for life. I’ve got a thousand beans to choose from a few different crosses. Not a single herm. Still finding all the phenotypes.
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Hempire828 · Mar 19, 2020

Qube said:
I grew this from bagseed this past year. Came from a dispensary labeled as Blue Widow. I bought 1/2 oz and found 1 seed. It started throwing "nanners" about week 4 of 12/12. Every bud popped nanners right on top like Alfalfa from the little rascals. I harvested about 6-7 oz from that one plant and not one seed.

These pics are from the day of the chop at 76 days of 12/12.

The 3rd pic is a macro of one of the nanners. You can really see how they got that name.

Your plant looks great..i've grown others breeds and got a seed here and there..so if I can grow this out with success...I will form a program around...the way I look at it..I get to claim it.
It didn't come from the clone only gg4, but in seed form from a gg4/and who knows...if I like it I will find a good landrace sativa depending on the flowering time and blend them up...

Qube · Mar 19, 2020

Thanks. I think it's a crapshoot to be honest. I was ready to chop it once I saw the nanners but really didn't have anything else flowering at the time so I took a chance. I'm assuming that sterile male flowers are a thing.

I think you have a chance of hermi genes with a lot of breeders seeds also. Here's a pic of an Alien Tarantula that I definitely chopped. I popped 5 seeds got 3 females. Well so I thought.

farmingfisherman · Mar 19, 2020

Qube said:
Thanks. I think it's a crapshoot to be honest. I was ready to chop it once I saw the nanners but really didn't have anything else flowering at the time so I took a chance. I'm assuming that sterile male flowers are a thing.

I think you have a chance of hermi genes with a lot of breeders seeds also. Here's a pic of an Alien Tarantula that I definitely chopped. I popped 5 seeds got 3 females. Well so I thought.

How far into flower were you when you caught the male in the garden?

Qube · Mar 19, 2020

It was only about 7-10 days of 12/12.

mmcma17 · Mar 20, 2020

Gemtree said:
I've been buying seeds since 2004 and have barely run into problems.

Yeah i just have really, really bad luck. :spew:

Also nice grows hempire and qube. Looking good!

I invested time into mystery because I habe the space and the time inbetween to do it. Only thing I really wasted was a little space and a pot. But the rewards noe will be much better. It is all female at the minute and no problems. Even crap seeds are good if they are free. There is a lot you can do with seeds, even if they hermie.

mmcma17 · Mar 20, 2020

Hempire828 said:
260 v1 13/11 15watt far red at end of cycle...normally run 315 cmh..but wanted to try the qb's.

Qbs are good, if you have the money. I'm either building something or getting a kit and do it myself. Can save about 200 bucks.

BudmanTX · Mar 20, 2020

Eh I have had a of fun over the years with a simple bag of seeds. I have found some winners and losers I've got to admit. All of them were interesting one way or another.
Here is a couple new finds.

Top one is a female, very strong indica, the lower one is a male I moved it outside already indica too. On.the fence bout letting them :hump:

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mmcma17 · Mar 29, 2020

Mine just itched to 12/12 and is starting to stretch. Everything going great and still on female calyx and pistils. No buldges or balls. A couple mini leaves popped out and still only throwing hairs. So far, so good. And this thing still taller and thicker than any other plant I got. Mystery Cross of 2 strong parents from a random seed in a bag of a bunch of bud. Not brick.

mmcma17 · Mar 29, 2020

Not to mention that the leaves are gigantic. If this thing makes it to the end, I am definitely going to acess the situation and maybe grow another rounnd, or cross with another strong parent.

mmcma17 · Apr 14, 2020

Just a quick little update. Mine are going fine 6 days into flower, even after having to revert back to veg (4 days) after 7 days of flower. They started to grow buds instantly. Fat colas in the works. No balls. No nanners. A mere 2 weeks after last pictures and grown under 2x 200 watt CFLs. You know, the ones everyone loves to hate so much... Yeah, those... Anyways, growing 2 plant under each light. Still no issue and growing big ol' titties.

BudmanTX · Apr 15, 2020

mmcma17 said:
Just a quick little update. Mine are going fine 6 days into flower, even after having to revert back to veg (4 days) after 7 days of flower. They started to grow buds instantly. Fat colas in the works. No balls. No nanners. A mere 2 weeks after last pictures and grown under 2x 200 watt CFLs. You know, the ones everyone loves to hate so much... Yeah, those... Anyways, growing 2 plant under each light. Still no issue and growing big ol' titties. View attachment 4533571 View attachment 4533573 View attachment 4533575

Not bad consider the idea of moving over to led bulbs without the tops on them.

BudmanTX · Apr 15, 2020

Here just to give ya a heads up....

Single 3k bulbs on it....the rest is natural, finally moved it into the room to finish it off.

Spazz24 · Apr 15, 2020

Hermie plants produce female seeds. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve ran beans that came from hermie plants and all were females every time with no hermie tendencies. Last spring I gave a friend 12 hermie beans I found in a half zip bag I got off a family member to try. He planted them outdoors and he harvested over 10 pounds 100% seed free..

ToneOZ · Apr 15, 2020

Best ive evergrown was bagseed. 2008 mexican brick. Hella sativa

Hempire828 · Apr 16, 2020

I like this plant.. I flipped this tree on 2/14, it was mature so i started my count as well as taking several clones all of which I’ll be flowering at different times to see what’s best while keeping a mom..

Funny thing is since I’ve started on this tree it’s been about 5 months ago.. I’ve gotta find me something to go with her..

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