T5 SCROG-Apollo Hash

Hey all,
This is a first time grow. I am a legal script holder and am looking forward to the potential outcome of growing some bad ass meds. It entails 8 young gals of Apollo Hash, which is an Indica dominant hybrid consisting of a few stellar strains, most notably Apollo, L.A. Conf, Sweet Purp and Pure Kush. I am very blessed to have these ladies for my first med grow as the genes are stellar. I have grown a many plant in my day and am thrilled to try my hand at this.

Lighting-2x 4ft/8 bulb T5HO
Soil-3 gal Roots Organic cut with dolomite lime and 30% added perlite
Food- Aerated Roots Organic Grow/Bloom/Trinity. Humbolt Humic Acid. Great White Microbes.
Water-Aerated tap.
Tent- 5x5x8 Lighthouse Hydro.
Air-Intake: Passive. Airflow: 6inch clip fans. Exaust: 180 CFM Booster fan on thermostat switch.
Structure: Husky 4x2x6 5 tier industrial wire shelving unit.

As of now, all 8 girls are 2 weeks old from clone and are basking under one 4ft 8bulb T5 with a 70/30 spectrum of 6500k/3000k. They are about 8 inches tall, have been topped once and have had one light feeding of Trinity, Grow and Humic Acid. Once they fill in and get abit taller they will be dispersed 4 per lamp to begin filling in the screens. This will be a stacked setup. I chose this two story setup to maximize space and workability. Plus the shelves of this unit are already perfectly designed to serve as scrog screens. Temps have held steady between 61-78 with humidity around 35-55%. Light are about 3-4" from the tops.

I hope any of you with any inclination to follow this grow enjoy what you see. Please feel free to chime in on anything pertinent.
Respect.

The girls got a good drink today.
I just noticed fat white roots probing around the drain holes of the pots. I really think the Great White was the catalyst in such rapid root development.
I wanted your folks opinion on wether or not its too soon to feed these young ladies. I have been told by numerous growers that there is no need to feed in quality organic soil for at least a month. While they have not shown signs of any difficiency or asking for nutes, they also havent minded there first feeding at half the recommended. It was also told to me that Indica dominant strains are finicky with feeds. None of which has been the case thus far. But my base of experience is very limited so not much to go on.
Gonna get this herd split up under two lights any day now as they are starting to really crowd eachother.

i dont grow organically. however, it might not be a good idea to go to full strength in that first month since your soil has nutes in it already and that might burn the plant. let some of whats in the soil be taken by the plant then start feeding.

Good call U. Fester. Its definitely what I have been told...and it makes perfect sense...damn noob excitement! Im just curious as to how long the soil will feed. It came pretty hot so I imagine its sufficient for awhile. Thanks for the input.

Just moved the ladies to thier respective tiers...now they can stretch out without crowding. Root development is awesome as seen in the pic. Got the screens set at about 9 inches from the soil. Hopefully this will be enough space to work under. Lamps are on rachet ropes for easy adjustment. Now with both lights running I am already seeing temps push into the lower 80's. Too hot??? Sorry about the lack of rotated pics...I will get the hang of it shortly. Also, I have spotted a small amount of curl down at the tip of some leaves. Any ideas? Just watered yesterday.

they might not be enjoying the heat, but im not sure. my closet is usually around 80 under the canopy, and im fairly comfortable up to 85 in the same spot. anything over that and i start to freak out a little.

i understand about the excitement, as soon as 3pm rolls around, when im not at work, i run to my closet.. well, gimp up the stairs but, whatever. to see my girls, see how they look, smell em, check and see if they need water... but you have to wait, alot of the time. wait for them to veg, wait for them to show sex, wait for them to FINISH flowering.. heh wait for them to finish stretching.. the plants will tell you if they need more food, hell, after awhile the plants will tell you exactly what is wrong, unfortunately being able to decipher what the plant is saying usually comes after having been hit with something; spidermites, powdery mildew, nute deficient/over feed, over water, what have you. your area looks clean, your plants look good, if it is the heat bothering them, let it go a little, dont burn em, but maybe see if they get use to it. then you will be able to keep your light closer. a little stress isnt going to kill em or turn them hermi if they are females, alot maybe, but not a little.. sorry for the long response, just finished the first bong load of the day after work and i got a little chatty about my favorite subject lol happy growing!

Girls got a light feeding of tea today. I think I stunted them a bit as I trimmed some lower leaves off yesterday. I know alot of SCROGers wait until switching to flower to clean up underneath but I figured a little at a time would also suffice. Any thoughts on this? I tend to get carried away in pruning anything. So they are rebelling with little growth at the moment, but still healthy and problem free thus far.

Also, a question for other OG soil growers regarding watering...do you always water to runoff and if so how much???

Thanks anyone for their feedback.

Day 25
Canopy is really filling in fast. I have to pull foliage down twice per day to prevent any leaves from touching the lights. Although these lights do run much cooler than other systems, they can and do burn any leaves that make contact. At this rate, Im feeling like only another 7-10 days before flipping to 12/12. When I do, not sure if I should run all 3000k bulbs, 70/30 or 50/50. Any advice from experience on this???

your plants are looking nice! i see you've got the same spectrum mix as i run with my 8-bulb t5. i got a question though. i see in one of your pics the roots are coming out the bottom of the pots. you seem to be ok with this as it looks like you plan to finish in those pots. aren't you supposed to transplant to a larger pot once you see roots coming out the bottom? i could be completely wrong but i heard that from somewhere.

Good question Mints. Those roots came shooting through the bottom after less than one week from being transplanted into 3gal pots. I used Great White which IMO was the catalyst in such rapid root development. One could only assume that if I transplanted again I would see the same thing after only another week or so. Im okay keeping them in 3gal as this was my original plan according to the space I have to work with and these ladies are on a pretty short cycle, finishing in about 60 days from switch. So far they dont seem to mind. If I were to veg them out longer I def would pot up.
Do you run T5's to finish? If so, what spec mix do you use in flower?
Thanks for the feedback CCC.

T5's are the shit! Nice grow so far, keep it up and goodluck!

no, i won't be using t5s to flower. if i were to flower with them though this would be my mix:

B = the orange flowering bulb || G = the white veg bulb

B B G B B G B B

wish you luck with your grow dude

Thanks Bacon...
My other obsession.

Yeah Mints, thats actually what I had planned (6:2). I have a buddy who is a very experienced grower and he suggested finishing the last week or two in all blue. According to his experimentation, it really adds a significant increase in density. I havent found any other resource backing this, but then again, flowering under t5's is definitely not the most popular modality, thus not alot of data to gather from. Anyone else ever hear of this???

Day 29

12/12 has begun with a 50/50 spectrum. I will go 70/30 as soon as I get some more reds. Amazing new growth after the first long sleep. Now, everyday is tuckin and pullin of which I will continue to train for another couple weeks or so. I cleaned up some more of the undergrowth and will slowly eliminate everything 2" below the screen for concentrated canopy development. I have not come into any issues yet. No signs of any imbalances, resilient growth...sure aint being challenged with anything...so far. Feedings are every other watering and are cut almost in half from company feeding schedule. Temps are a bit higher than I would like at 82F...but for such a passive set up I guess this will do. Cant wait to see some bud development!

Day 12 of flower

Well, I flipped a week or more too soon. I thought for sure I would have some stretch but this strain hardly budged after the switch so my screens only filled in about 75%. I guess thats better than an over crowding issue though. Also got my first leaf discoloration and some rust/brown colored spots after their first heavy dose of the full nute line up. I already scaled back their following feeding as it was just too much for them. The canopy is about as even as I could manage and I think I will finally stop fucking with them now and just let them do their thing. Over 70 bud sites per screen. A question for anyone who might have some scrog experience...now that training is done, what do you do if you have some over zealous runaways...do you tug them back to level with the others? Peace yall.
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Not sure why pics arent coming through...here it goes again...

Got the 70/30 light ratio going today. Hope they like it. I did a budsite count today, the top canopy which was the 4 larger plants has around 75 exposed bud sites. The lower canopy which were the runts have over 100 even though the canopy is not as full. Go figure.

Wow...all alone on here.
Anywho, things are progressing well. Bud development was much more apparent as soon as more red bulbs went in. Got quite a bit of yellow spotted fan leaves...Ive been pulling them off as needed. Not sure what from. Doesnt seem to be impacting much. Finally got a humidifier in the tent so low 20's RH is a thing of the past! Its def helping keep the temps reasonable too. I am actually a bit disappointed in the amount of heat these t5's produce...its more than I thought.
Have had to keep fiddling with some budsites to keep them level with the others. Probably no more than 2.5 inch variance in the canopy. Ive been tucking and clipping leaves that block other budsites...I hope that is not stressing them too much. Peace.

Day 24 of flower
Not much to report.
More yellow leaves, just pulling them off as they become loose enough to do so easily. Doesnt seem to be effecting bud sites...yet. Buds are starting to chunk up a bit...looks like a field of fingers. Some pistols are turning red/brown already and the sugar leaves are frosty as hell. Smell is very floral and fruity. All in all things are going good. Gonna give them a small top dressing of Roots Uprising Bloom and water that in with the next brew for a mid season boost.

Day 31 of flower.

Buds fattening up nicely. F-U-C-K-I-N-G sticky and a distinct fruity maple syrup smell. More leaves turning yellow, then drying up. Pulling them off as needed. I attached a pic if anyone has any ideas. But again, buds are healthy so not sure if I should be worrying too much. My buddy who is also growing this strain is getting the same issue under led's. Perhaps strain specific. Anywho, my brain is already swarming with ideas about the next cycle. The addiction begins.