Subcool's Super Soil

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subcool

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Just remember one thing when substituting things make damn sure you check your end PH and do not use this mix before it cooks properly.
Some soils simply have a lower ph and require more lime roots comes in the bag at 6.8 and Biobiz at like 6.2 so there is need for some adjustments if you dont follow the original mix.
BTW the mix shouldnt work but people all over the world prove it does daily and what I mean by that statement is my super soil has a EC of like 4.1 and should fry things but used as directed Cannabis Loves it!!
 
cls1

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Hey everyone 1st post here. This is the place to be! Thanks to everyone here for their input and especially to you Subcool. Thank you very much for sharing your years of knowledge with everyone and taking the time to post here as often as you do. I 1st saw your method, like many, in the March HT article and have been following this thread as soon as I found it. I really want to use this method, but I am very limited on time as I was given clones by a fellow medical grower, which are already showing roots. Is four weeks the minimum time needed to "cook" this recipe? If I were forced too, could my clones be kept in smaller containers for the minimum cooking time and then transferred into my 7 gals pots with the super soil applied per the normal 30-50% rate or perhaps use a little lower concentration on the bottom of the container, say 15-25%, while later topping off with more super soil? Also, I believe that you "cook" your soil in the containers with the lid off outside, correct? My yard has many pests, as we have 2 dogs and there is very dense vegetation on our property. Would a warm garage or the inside of my home be better to cook the soil in? Thanks again for everything Sub!
 
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cls1 said:
Hey everyone 1st post here. This is the place to be! Thanks to everyone here for their input and especially to you Subcool. Thank you very much for sharing your years of knowledge with everyone and taking the time to post here as often as you do. I 1st saw your method, like many, in the March HT article and have been following this thread as soon as I found it. I really want to use this method, but I am very limited on time as I was given clones by a fellow medical grower, which are already showing roots. Is four weeks the minimum time needed to "cook" this recipe? If I were forced too, could my clones be kept in smaller containers for the minimum cooking time and then transferred into my 7 gals pots with the super soil applied per the normal 30-50% rate or perhaps use a little lower concentration on the bottom of the container, say 15-25%, while later topping off with more super soil? Also, I believe that you "cook" your soil in the containers with the lid off outside, correct? My yard has many pests, as we have 2 dogs and there is very dense vegetation on our property. Would a warm garage or the inside of my home be better to cook the soil in? Thanks again for everything Sub!
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I check soil with a ph probe


Inside is fine as long as temps are near 80 for a good part of the time but we are learning that 4 weeks is on the short side as the lime wont be fully broken down for almost 6 weeks and while I have used dump truck fulls of this stuff sonner we are now making it up 2 months in advance or longer
Actually I am now making 10 cans in mid summer so I have enough to last through the winter

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Thanks for quick reply Sub. I will definitely get the probe style pH meter. Then I guess I'll test the batch until its within range.
 
tea tree

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Hey Sub,

I am a lazy man Sub. I began wondering if I could amend one gallons so that all I would need to feed was water. I was screwing the one gallon pot feeding all up.

I grow in Rapid Rooters first. Then I put them in 16 ounce cups. That is full of light warrior. I have to feed this a light feed. When they ware ready, I transplant to one gallons.

The one gallons I pre-mixed with a scaled down semi version of your recipe. I added one tbsp of blood meal, 2 tbsp of bone meal, and one tbsp of kelp meal. Also I gave a few tsp of azomite and the perlite was already there. This is for two gallons.

I wet this mix and added my 16 ounce cups and RR and they are rock'in. They are outperforming the regualar one gallon I am growing in lightwarrior completely.

I worried ocean forest was too hot so I used light warrior for the pre-super soil part and I had to light a medium. I fixed this by amending the peat.

Could not have done it with out you. They look beautiful:) Amending the soil like the box says! hehe.;)
 
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greenplanetguru

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Updated Super Soil from latest feedback from Subcool... lime and azomite have been increased to a cup of each.

Subcool Super Soil

8- Large bags of High quality Organic potting soil (Roots Organic)
25# Organic Worm castings
5# Steamed Bone meal
5# Bloom bat Guano
5# Blood meal
3# Rock Phoshate
¾ cup Epson salts
1 Cup Sweet Lime (Powdered)
1 Cup Azomite (Trace Elements)
2- TBS Powdered Humic Acid

Mix all ingredients thoroughly and cook in a container outdoors in warm temps in the sun for 30 days. This will break down the organic matter and stabilize ph.
 
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somebody041

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thank you for sharing your recipe and working so diligently to help us!:hump:


so you only use the super soil in the final 7gal pots and at the bottom 1/3 of the pot? straight roots organic out of the bag in the smaller pots?
 
dirrtyd

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Your articles by the way are great and I will be shopping for your book tomorrow. Would this be a good soil I can buy locally. The ingredients are as follows.loam, redwood compost,mujshroom compost, aged and washed cow manure,lava rock, lava sand,rice hulls, perlite,organic sea kelp,greensand,blood meal, mocha bat guano, and biozome. cost is $8 FOR 1.5CU FT they will deliver. Subcool I'm kinda lazy so could you tell me is this comparable and if I should add to this or substitute.

Thanks in advance
Dirrtyd
 
subcool

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dirrtyd said:
Your articles by the way are great and I will be shopping for your book tomorrow. Would this be a good soil I can buy locally. The ingredients are as follows.loam, redwood compost,mujshroom compost, aged and washed cow manure,lava rock, lava sand,rice hulls, perlite,organic sea kelp,greensand,blood meal, mocha bat guano, and biozome. cost is $8 FOR 1.5CU FT they will deliver. Subcool I'm kinda lazy so could you tell me is this comparable and if I should add to this or substitute.

Thanks in advance
Dirrtyd
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Looks good but ya cant really know untill you test it.

Great growers are never lazy!
 
thinkngrowweed

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i was thinking just use super soil but i also was wondering how using growilla bud food for flowering would effect my grow do you think it will kill the plants like over feeding cuz the soil is strong by itself... thanks for all the info in advance
 
tea tree

tea tree

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I tried to add some non food growth enhancers and shit went south, real fast, in an otherwise healthy grow. I then backed off and things improved. There was not damage perm. or serious but they showed some unhealthy signs and marks. I think that after cooking it with all the ingreds a perfect soil food web is built and to mess with it is wrong. :) I love my grow. I only add water.
 
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greenplanetguru

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Hi Subcool,

I've got my first batch of super soil all mixed up and cooking out on my deck. All of it wouldn't fit in my compost tumbler so I have some in a plastic bin in a spare bedroom. I buried a seedling heat mat and the temps in there are around 85 in the soil so this might be a good option in the winter. I'm only using one seed mat for a small amount of soil so a full batch of super soil would probably require a soil heating cable or something more robust.

What is the ph of your water when you feed your plants? I saw where the ph of your mix should run off at around 6.5 when fed 7.0 water but I couldn't find if you routinely feed 7.0 water.

I'd like to try a TGA strain in my garden... do you have a TGA cross suggestion that can be managed to stay on the shorter side, under 4 feet without too much difficulty?

Thanks,
gpg:peace:
 
Pumert

Pumert

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jw how long into the grow will your soil still be active i would imagine well over 6 months but i was considering a long veg out like a 8 month+ veg so like would your soil still be active at around 10-11 months
 
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toke`

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Hey subcool, for some reason I don't have any PM privileges and you have your wallposts disabled, but I'm a new prospective grower looking for some advice on growing. I've read some of your posts and I'm very interested in having you give me some insight on my growing endeavors, if you could do me a favor and check my thread out in the Newbie Central which is https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/217962-outdoor-growing-need-help.html

It'd be great if you could give me some advice and I apologize if this isn't relavent to the thread, I just had no other way of contacting you.
 
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somebody041

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the local gardening store has bulk organics for sale in small amounts... giant tubs of kelpmeal, alfalfa meal, worm castings, bone meal, blood meal, humate ore, etc. the problem is that they don't list the NPK values of any of these.

can i still follow this recipe if i just go and get exactly what i need without knowing the npk of any of the organic substance?

for example i asked the employee the NPK of the steamed bone meal and it was 1-12-0 as opposed to the 3-15-0 NPK on foxfarms boxed steamed bonemeal.

thanks for the insight.
 
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