Stress induced Hermie question.

IndooorGardnerOhio

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If you are growing a see that has been feminized, and you stress the plant enough for it to go hermie, will the seeds produce a female plant?

For example,I have some seeds that are fem Photos, if I am growing them out and light stress durning the dark period causes it to go hermie, will the seeds be female until stressed or will it grow hermie from the start?
 

Fangthane

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My understanding is pretty rudimentary, and probably not entirely accurate, but there are different kinds and levels of intersex expressions possible. I think "nanners" are male parts that are often produced from stress, possibly overfeeding, light stress or flowering it longer than it wanted to go. Then you have something that's more like actual hermaphroditism, where the plant produces female flowers and full-fledged pollen sacks. I'm thinking that type is more genetic.

Whichever ends up being the case, I'm pretty sure they're always feminized seeds. At least every one I've grown that came from nanners ended up being female. If a plant is just kinda pissed off and spits out a few seeds, I'll typically keep them and grow them at some point. A full-on herm where you get a shit load of seeds, I just toss them since most seem to agree they're much more likely to grow out to be hermaphrodites.
 

VaSmile

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I will Send ya some orange bud seeds and you can find out first hand if ya want.

My understanding is. They will all be female but much more likely to go hermi.

Asexual reproduction is inbreeding on steroids. Lots of dumb traits can be expressed as a result.
 

Fangthane

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Asexual reproduction is inbreeding on steroids. Lots of dumb traits can be expressed as a result.
As odd as it may become due to the hermaphrodite aspect, I'd think it'd still count as sexual reproduction - pollen is interacting with pistils. Wouldn't cloning from cuttings be the only real asexual reproduction method for weed plants?

As for the possible expression of negative recessive traits, I'm thinking it would ultimately amount to any heterozygous x heterozygous pairing, which should amount to a 1 in 4 chance of the homozygous form (said trait actually being expressed). Actually kinda curious about this stuff, so hopefully someone in the know corrects me. Much more accustomed to thinking about genetics in terms of reptiles. Are there codominant and incomplete dominant traits to weed? Ugh, I've barely even thought about a punnett square in 20 years, so my head hurts already.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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As odd as it may become due to the hermaphrodite aspect, I'd think it'd still count as sexual reproduction - pollen is interacting with pistils. Wouldn't cloning from cuttings be the only real asexual reproduction method for weed plants?

As for the possible expression of negative recessive traits, I'm thinking it would ultimately amount to any heterozygous x heterozygous pairing, which should amount to a 1 in 4 chance of the homozygous form (said trait actually being expressed). Actually kinda curious about this stuff, so hopefully someone in the know corrects me. Much more accustomed to thinking about genetics in terms of reptiles. Are there codominant and incomplete dominant traits to weed? Ugh, I've barely even thought about a punnett square in 20 years, so my head hurts already.
Shit, I have not looked at or thought about a Punnett square since High School back in like 1992 lmao
 

VaSmile

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As odd as it may become due to the hermaphrodite aspect, I'd think it'd still count as sexual reproduction - pollen is interacting with pistils. Wouldn't cloning from cuttings be the only real asexual reproduction method for weed plants?

As for the possible expression of negative recessive traits, I'm thinking it would ultimately amount to any heterozygous x heterozygous pairing, which should amount to a 1 in 4 chance of the homozygous form (said trait actually being expressed). Actually kinda curious about this stuff, so hopefully someone in the know corrects me. Much more accustomed to thinking about genetics in terms of reptiles. Are there codominant and incomplete dominant traits to weed? Ugh, I've barely even thought about a punnett square in 20 years, so my head hurts already.
Cloning is not really reproduction in a genetic sense, more like a copy or even more so simply decentralized growth of a single organisms. That's not pulling 2 halfs of the code and putting them together.
The less diverse the parent genetics are the greater the chance of repeating genetic coding this repeating can change the way that code functions or it will fill extra space causing another part of the code to be missing.
 
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