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smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

genuity said:
So 40+ mom's cost nothing to take care of?
Space
Food
Lights
Time
Rooting time(no unrooted cuts)
THe list go's on...

Not much when you look at the production amount and the prices. So no. I take care of 18 moms right now and I wouldn't even notice a dent in my costs compared to my flowering tents. I mean come on dude, this isn't even debatable when you look at other companies selling in the Cali region. This is just people taking advantage of others. Plain and simple. It is why the same clones go for $16 at a dispensary.

Vato_504 · Jan 28, 2020

kona gold said:
Maybe they meant that not everyone who grows sells. Just personal use.
But you would save on purchasing.

Right but even if you’re growing for personal your lungs will thank you in the long run. All I’m saying to them is you’re paying for good genetics plus insurance. I done seen first class repay and even reshot clones.

Vato_504 · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
Not much when you look at the production amount and the prices. So no. I take care of 18 moms right now and I wouldn't even notice a dent in my costs compared to my flowering tents. I mean come on dude, this isn't even debatable when you look at other companies selling in the Cali region. This is just people taking advantage of others. Plain and simple. It is why the same clones go for $16 at a dispensary.

Well check this out bro give me the harborside price on that Oakland purp and lemon sherb. I’ll even buy 5 of each

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Vato_504 said:
Right but even if you’re growing for personal your lungs will thank you in the long run. All I’m saying to them is you’re paying for good genetics plus insurance. I done seen first class repay and even reshot clones.

Yeah, I think people are a little over zealous of these strains and there are better or equal strains out there for less price. Nice little sell on the lungs liking you and all. And as far as customer service goes, thats this game. I have seen mamafunk do the same at 18 a pop. I will do the same at $30 a pop. Its good business. These clones are produced for next to nothing.

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Vato_504 said:
Well check this out bro give me the harborside price on that Oakland purp and lemon sherb. I’ll even buy 5 of each

Will do. They will be getting here by the end of this week at latest and I will be momming them up and growing a tester cut. I don't live on the west coast myself.

Boatguy · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
You'll get our prices which is $30 a piece. That is a 150% markup. Different when you see PCG genetics going for 300 which is a 1500% markup.

Arent the spendy ones basically unicorns?
Anyone can grow out a seed and sell clones. Its the known "proven clone" genetics that command a big price.
High thc, fast production, etc

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Boatguy said:
Arent the spendy ones basically unicorns?
Anyone can grow out a seed and sell clones. Its the known "proven clone" genetics that command a big price.
High thc, fast production, etc

Same cut, lower price. Call it whatever you want. It only helps people feel better about their cash spent. Sundae Driver 19 is Sundae Driver 19. PCG cuts are PCG cuts. Wedding Cake is probably the most distributed and varies so widely in prices its nuts. So again, if you think the price means anything then pay for the 250 dollar jbeezy cut wedding cake and not the 20 dollar jbeezy cut wedding cake.

Boatguy · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
Same cut, lower price. Call it whatever you want. It only helps people feel better about their cash spent. Sundae Driver 19 is Sundae Driver 19. PCG cuts are PCG cuts. Wedding Cake is probably the most distributed and varies so widely in prices its nuts. So again, if you think the price means anything then pay for the 250 dollar jbeezy cut wedding cake and not the 20 dollar jbeezy cut wedding cake.

I dont buy clones.
Just saying what i thought was the case.
If someone grows out a pile of plants and finds a diamond in the rough, they can charge what they please.
If you want to undercut them after buying their genetics thats your prerogative.

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Boatguy said:
I dont buy clones.
Just saying what i thought was the case.
If someone grows out a pile of plants and finds a diamond in the rough, they can charge what they please.
If you want to undercut them after buying their genetics thats you prerogative.

Exactly, prerogative. That is all I am going for here. Some people are out to help the community and others their own pockets. Prerogative. All I am calling out. Just using comparisons to do so.

HTOYO · Jan 28, 2020

genuity said:
So 40+ mom's cost nothing to take care of?
Space
Food
Lights
Time
Rooting time(no unrooted cuts)
THe list go's on...

smokadepep said:
If your philosophy is to not distribute for profit but to give everyone the access to your clones why sell them for anything more than 20-30 a piece?? There really is no overhead other than initial cost and you already said you bought them for yourself with no intent to distribute for profit. Looks more like you want to make a hefty profit off of people. I just call it how I see it. I am sure I would be overzealous of the clones I paid 250 a piece for. Not sure if it would be a little bias though trying to protect my sanity from the expense. Like people with wine. But hey, to each is own like you said.

$20-$30 a piece doesn't even cover my time to package up the cuts to be honest~ And as I have said time and time again, if you dont like it, that is 100% aok with me~ But just by reading your assumptive posts, when you know noting either of me, or clearly how much peoples time is worth, say a LOT about you~

If you have a business where you are cranking out hundreds or thousands of clones a week, or from a "dispensary" ass you seem to be ever quoting in relation to how prices should be set, and you have hundreds of cuts flowing in and out through your doors, then yeah, volume can be and is a thing if that is what motivates you~

You don't know me, who I am, what I do, and clearly not what I stand for in this life or you surely wouldn't be making these comments about me and my motives, and you especially wouldn't do it to my face knowing how many times I have stood in shelters on holidays cooking and handing out meals to those whom have had a rough go, as well as donating my time to other very worthy causes for which I ask nothing in return, not even a thank-you~ I run TWO legitimate businesses, and do quite well with them, so I don't need to scrape people online for cash, but I'm also NOT a full time philanthropist, or a greedy cash mongering business hippy, or whatever other shitty stroke you seem to be painting me with~ I don't need or want your approval for the things I do, the choices I make and the reasons why I make them~ And to be honest, if you think that paying $500 CAD, including shipping for four 12" tall elite plants is a lot, then you're living in a different stratosphere my man and clearly don't know how things operate in Canada. The whole world isn't California, EH?... And as I mentioned just now, I don't just crank out flats of cuts in rockwool cubes with a few roots poking out then fire them off into the mail for three days and call it a day~ The last shipment I sent out didn't even fit height wise into a 14" tall box, so maybe you should not seemingly "assume", "call it how you see it", or whatever term you choose to staple to the ignorant comments you made, because you have made it blatantly obvious that you have zero knowledge of whom you are criticizing and even less insight into what is actually going on around you in the real world...

To be honest, I have given this more time and attention than I should have. And to be honest, I don't blame people for wanting to sound like a hero behind a keyboard while blasting people online that they don't know from a hole in the wall like they do, I just choose to use my time for more important things~

Have a good one~!
HT

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

HTOYO said:
$20-$30 a piece doesn't even cover my time to package up the cuts to be honest~ And as I have said time and time again, if you dont like it,that is 100% aok with me~ But just by reading your assumptive posts, when you know noting either of me, or clearly how much peoples time is worth, say a LOT about you~

If you have a business where you are cranking out hundreds or thousands of clones a week, or from a "dispensary" ass you seem to be ever quoting in relation to how prices should be set, and you have hundreds of cuts flowing in and out through your doors, then yeah, volume can be and is a thing if that is what motivates you~

You don't know me, who I am, what I do, and clearly not what I stand for in this life or you surely wouldn't be making these comments about me and my motives, and you especially wouldn't do it to my face knowing how many times I have stood in shelters on holidays cooking and handing out meals to those whom have had a rough go, as well as donating my time to other very worthy causes for which I ask nothing in return, not even a thank-you~ I run TWO legitimate businesses, and do quite well withe them, so I don't need to scrape people online for cash, but I'm also NOT a full time philanthropist, or a greedy cash mongering business hippy, or whatever other shitty stroke you seem to be painting me with~ I don't need or want your approval for the things I do, the choices I make and the reasons why I make them~ And to be honest, if you think that paying $500 CAD, including shipping for four 12" tall elite plants is a lot, then you're living in a different stratosphere my man and clearly don't know how things operate in Canada. The whole world isn't California, EH?... And as I mentioned just now, I don't just crank out flats of cuts in rockwool cubes with a few roots poking out then fire them off into the mail for three days and call it a day~ The last shipment I sent out didn't even fit height wise into a 14" tall box, so maybe you should not seemingly "assume", "call it how you see it", or whatever term you choose to staple to the ignorant comments you made, because you have made it blatantly obvious that you have zero knowledge of whom you are criticizing and even less insight into what is actually going on around you in the real world...

To be honest, I have given this more time and attention than I should have. And to be honest, I don't blame people for wanting to sound like a hero behind a keyboard while blasting people online that they don't know from a hole in the wall like they do, I just choose to use my time for more important things~

Have a good one~!
HT

Unless you have some different method than the norm I am pretty sure cloning is not a timely process. I mean is that really your argument? My time is so valuable..... You are just overcharging and trying to fatten your pockets. At least smile and admit it.

HTOYO · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
Unless you have some different method than the norm I am pretty sure cloning is not a timely process. I mean is that really your argument? My time is so valuable..... You are just overcharging and trying to fatten your pockets. At least smile and admit it.

Duly noted~ lol~

HT~

GreenHighlander · Jan 28, 2020

Just like seeds, clones are worth what people are willing to pay. If you find what you are looking for in a hunt with seeds or get a cut that is actually what it is suppose to be, a few hundred bucks is not a lot of money. The cost of a few ounces could give you the ability to produce endless ounces.

I never understood looking at it differently.
Just my stoned 2cents :eyesmoke:

Cheers

Boatguy · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
Exactly, prerogative. That is all I am going for here. Some people are out to help the community and others their own pockets. Prerogative. All I am calling out. Just using comparisons to do so.

Keep in mind. They spent a good sum of money and time finding and saving their cut.
You are simply buying one with no investment and again selling them to others for a profit.
I have bought building plans, that gave me permission to build one for myself. Any others are up to the digression of the owner. He may or may not allow me to build more, or sell them to others. It is up to him though as the owner.
No such rights pertain to pot, but you are essentially doing what you are complaining about.

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Boatguy said:
Keep in mind. They spent a good sum of money and time finding and saving their cut.
You are simply buying one with no investment and again selling them to others for a profit.
I have bought building plans, that gave me permission to build one for myself. Any others are up to the digression of the owner. He may or may not allow me to build more, or sell them to others. It is up to him though as the owner.
No such rights pertain to pot, but you are essentially doing what you are complaining about.

I totally understand I am making a profit. I am not saying I am not. I showed the difference in markups and technically after the first one is paid I am just covering maintenance which isn't much. So I am not complaining about the profit but the profit margins and the excess people charge because others don't have the opportunity to get the clones so now you mark them up, again 1500% and sell them. That is grimy if you ask me. The government puts price ceilings on shit like this to prevent others from hoarding resources and taking advantage of the markets.

Boatguy · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
I totally understand I am making a profit. I am not saying I am not. I showed the difference in markups and technically after the first one is paid I am just covering maintenance which isn't much. So I am not complaining about the profit but the profit margins and the excess people charge because others don't have the opportunity to get the clones so now you mark them up, again 1500% and sell them. That is grimy if you ask me. The government puts price ceilings on shit like this to prevent others from hoarding resources and taking advantage of the markets.

If it were cheap and easy, you would have your own. Your business plan is pretty poor, and shady.
Practices like this will make good cuts unavailable to the mainstream, and yourself. Nice work

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

Boatguy said:
If it were cheap and easy, you would have your own. Your business plan is pretty poor, and shady.
Practices like this will make good cuts unavailable to the mainstream, and yourself. Nice work

I digress and I will prove it to you. In fact as far as michael porters model goes, low cost, high quality is the best value and will kill the rest of the markets. I am not out costing myself. Again, there is not much overhead and I pump out close to 80 clones a week with a solid IPM. I do have a business plan and will be up on strainly soon but right now I am pretty busy myself without strainly. Just imagine how much of an increase that will bring to business? I don't think you really understand business or are bias in judging my model. Explain how it is poor and shady again??

HTOYO · Jan 28, 2020

I deal with NUMEROUS people on the daily and in the "real world", not sitting behind a keyboard, and its always the people who constantly lash out, criticize/put-down others, all the while making themselves out to be a hero, they are ALWAYS the ones who are lacking something meaningful in their lives. Putting down and criticizing others makes them not feel so "small". Giving others constructive criticism, or God forbid merrit, takes away from the little glimmer of light they have shining on their overinflated egos. Seen it a thousand times... I know this all too well, I used to be one of those guys in my younger years. The best thing I ever did was deconstruct the old me, and realize that the only true way to bring yourself up was to bring others up with you. Ever since that time in my life I have felt good and only good things have happened for me and the people whom I choose to have around me. Toxic people are just that, and selling "cheap" clones with a GREAT "business model", ain't gonna fix that hole in your soul my man...

Boatguy · Jan 28, 2020

smokadepep said:
I digress and I will prove it to you. In fact as far as michael porters model goes, low cost, high quality is the best value and will kill the rest of the markets. I am not out costing myself. Again, there is not much overhead and I pump out close to 80 clones a week with a solid IPM. I do have a business plan and will be up on strainly soon but right now I am pretty busy myself without strainly. Just imagine how much of an increase that will bring to business? I don't think you really understand business or are bias in judging my model. Explain how it is poor and shady again??

Your plan is reselling and undercutting the original grower.
Said grower may in the future withhold clones, and keep the strain to themselves.... driving up costs, and killing your so called "business". While also killing the availability of good clones to the home grower market. Kinda sux in my opinion

smokadepep · Jan 28, 2020

HTOYO said:
I deal with NUMEROUS people on the daily and in the "real world", not sitting behind a keyboard, and its always the people who constantly lash out, criticize/put-down others, all the while making themselves out to be a hero, they are ALWAYS the ones who are lacking something meaningful in their lives. Putting down and criticizing others makes them not feel so "small". Giving others constructive criticism, or God forbid merrit, takes away from the little glimmer of light they have shining on their overinflated egos. Seen it a thousand times... I know this all too well, I used to be one of those guys in my younger years. The best thing I ever did was deconstruct the old me, and realize that the only true way to bring yourself up was to bring others up with you. Ever since that time in my life I have felt good and only good things have happened for me and the people whom I choose to have around me. Toxic people are just that, and selling "cheap" clones inst going to fix a thing, lol~

Yeah, you are one of those self righteous ones who like to divert attention. I don't need to know much other than the price you are charging for clones to get a good idea about you. Call it baseless all you want but that right there is the basis. I think you can say you do all the charity you want. I find those are the people who do not. Similar to your argument about me. This is not an overinflated ego here. This is just plain and simple calling people out for their greed. Numbers don't lie.

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