stories about people protecting themselves and others with guns

canndo said:

Bait and switch - England is not America. this "it could happen to you" rings hollow. The culture is different, the underlying laws are different, the history is different. It no longer matters why the founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in the document, it is there.


And there is one other detail. Gun related deaths are pretty low in the U.K. one wonders if it is worth a few tony martins (life in prison is one thing, we tend to simply put criminals to death here - I figure over all - they are a bit more civil than we). to keep our gun death rate totals below a hundred a year.

Of course I am sure you will disagree with that statement. Tell me, what IS your right to keep and bear worth in human lives?

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lifegoesonbrah said:

OK.

1240 British sailors and 1200 Germans KIA during the revolutionary war during invasion on America is a good start. Find me 7320 accidental gun deaths then we will move to the next.

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canndo said:

Do you? I'm not so sure.

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canndo said:

Bait and switch - England is not America. this "it could happen to you" rings hollow. The culture is different, the underlying laws are different, the history is different. It no longer matters why the founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in the document, it is there.


And there is one other detail. Gun related deaths are pretty low in the U.K. one wonders if it is worth a few tony martins (life in prison is one thing, we tend to simply put criminals to death here - I figure over all - they are a bit more civil than we). to keep our gun death rate totals below a hundred a year.

Of course I am sure you will disagree with that statement. Tell me, what IS your right to keep and bear worth in human lives?

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st0wandgrow said:

Nice. Are you sure you don't want to walk this back to the 1600's?

I'm talking NOW. There are roughly 200-300 justifiable homicides in America every year, and 800-900 accidental gun deaths every year.

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canndo said:

Bait and switch - England is not America. this "it could happen to you" rings hollow. The culture is different, the underlying laws are different, the history is different. It no longer matters why the founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in the document, it is there.

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lifegoesonbrah said:

Not worth a higher violent crime rate like the UK, thats for sure.

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canndo said:

You could look at it that way lifegoes.... you could use that single statistic if you wanted but here is another

US incarceration rate per 100,000 = 730
U.K. incarceration rate per 100,000 = 154


Now how does that disparity figure into your violent crime stats?

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Winter Woman said:

Of course you don't understand. That must just be your lot in life to follow the herd. This is what is coming and those of us who are independent thinkers know it.

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st0wandgrow said:

Nice. Are you sure you don't want to walk this back to the 1600's?

I'm talking NOW. There are roughly 200-300 justifiable homicides in America every year, and 800-900 accidental gun deaths every year.

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st0wandgrow said:

The "herd" you are referring to are your fellow citizens, which in a representative democracy are supposed to have a voice. If you want only your opinions to matter, maybe you can gain favor with a third world dictator and move there.

Until such time, you are going to have to deal with the herd, and all that comes with living with 300 million other people.

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st0wandgrow said:

The "herd" you are referring to are your fellow citizens, which in a representative democracy are supposed to have a voice. If you want only your opinions to matter, maybe you can gain favor with a third world dictator and move there.

Until such time, you are going to have to deal with the herd, and all that comes with living with 300 million other people.

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canndo said:

You could look at it that way lifegoes.... you could use that single statistic if you wanted but here is another

US incarceration rate per 100,000 = 730
U.K. incarceration rate per 100,000 = 154


Now how does that disparity figure into your violent crime stats?

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lifegoesonbrah said:

Are you for gated lakes and oceans too? That would save more lives..... How much do accidental gun deaths have to decrease to make you happy?

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Think of the children!



I also see that Natural/Enviornment killed more that twice what firearms did....fucking nature! Ban it I say...

kelly4 said:

I see that 'struck by or against' is deadlier than firearms. Maybe we should also regulate everything that someone can be hit with...for the children.


Goddamn it...Think of the children!



I also see that Natural/Enviornment killed more that twice what firearms did....fucking nature! Ban it I say...

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canndo said:

It no longer matters why the founding fathers put the 2nd amendment in the document

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st0wandgrow said:

Nice. Are you sure you don't want to walk this back to the 1600's?

I'm talking NOW. There are roughly 200-300 justifiable homicides in America every year, and 800-900 accidental gun deaths every year.

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st0wandgrow said:

The "herd" you are referring to are your fellow citizens, which in a representative democracy are supposed to have a voice. If you want only your opinions to matter, maybe you can gain favor with a third world dictator and move there.

Until such time, you are going to have to deal with the herd, and all that comes with living with 300 million other people.

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lifegoesonbrah said:

Its time to have a serious conversation about getting rid of all this machinery.

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