Stoneslacker's 250w micro, hempy, scrog - Blue Hash, Afghan Kush Special. Cheese

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bassman999 said:
Variety...I am addicted to variety
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For sure Bass, variety is the reason I keep trying to increase my cab capacity. I do like the small scale of my setup though and won't go any bigger for
a while. Keeps me with a decent harvest every 90 days or so and even some to trade for more variety.


StevieStoner said:
Awesome shots SS! I can honestly say that that trainwreck looks like something out of a disney movie with all that fairy dust on her. Great job man, each one of those girls are truly impressive.
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Thanks SS, they are just trying to keep up with your OG's frostiness. The TW reminds me of the cheese from last grow, small and solid bud clusters rather than colas.


eastcoastmo said:
Very nice update Stoney, those girls are looking perfect as always :D The resin on that black russian is unbelieveable too! Wicked bro, just wicked!!
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Thanks Easty. Ya when I did the BR as a mainline I knew she would be a great scrog candidate. She hasn't disappointed me, nice canopy and bud formation and smells awesome.
Just like before she smells like sour patch kids candy.

Javadog said:
Bass, do take the time to scan back to see previous harvests, if you
have not yet. (just grab the browser anchor and drag the page
by...you'll see them) SS manages extremely even canopies.

I end up with a city skyline...au naturale!

JD
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HaHa JD. My grows always go the same.

Transplant,Followed by impatience....


Then I try to burn every leaf off the plant :-(



Then the hempy bucket takes over once the roots hit the rez and I become less of a factor. :sleep:
 

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fuck this phone man justwrote bigest message n it goes out of time n cancels fuckin stupid website didn't even askme if I was fuking sure how fucked that shit juat ruoned my day.. anyway supwr inpressed with bud size but are they solid cause if there not grow a strain with smaller buds to mazimise light penetration I can't imagine a 250 being strong enough to penetrate those colas unless they we're airy and fluffy proove me wrong if there not.. but overall I'm super fuking inpressed man welldone
 
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Density is not an issue. I keep my light 4-6 inches away from the canopy until the last 10-14 days. Nugs are nice and dense.

The last grow was some freebie seeds and the Afghan Kush Special from World of seeds was garbage. But total yield was around 220g or so I think off 3 plants.

I supplemented with cfls up until this grow where are I am trying out some LED supplemental lighting.

I also rotate my plants every 2 days to help even out the light coverage.

Edit: I average 3 weeks of veg from clone to about 70-80% screen coverage.

Here is the Blue Hash from last grow. Not the densest bud but still plenty dense.




Here is the last of my Black Russian from the grow before.



Some Blueberry Blackjack and Blue Cheese
 

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Alright update time. At day 43 and things are going smooth. I have been increasing the liquid koolbloom
and they are showing a bit of stress. I leveled off at 2.5mL/gal and will try that for the next couple times.

I will probably have to start the dry koolbloom off fairly light.

Edit: Fuck gotta love the 3 cereal bowls stacked up in the backround. Glad to have tomorrow off I gotta clean this pit.
But I can't help it with the bowls, I am hooked on Raisin Bran Crunch.

Critical Plus is really starting to swell. I will probably raise my light a little bit as I am seeing some signs of foxtailing on her and the Black Russian.





Black Russian is also putting on some nice size. Love this strain.





This Cheese pheno is so different from the last one I grew. She still smells the same though. Awesome!





Trainwreck is starting to put some size on, albeit a small amount still. She is very frosty and smells really old school like incense and pine.






Canopy. Trainwreck up front...I don't remember the rest I change them around so much.



Peace
 

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bassman999 said:
That is an amazing use of a (250 watt) is it light?
Damn!
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Thanks Bass! I am running a 250w HPS and supplementing with (2) Kessil 150 LEDs which are rated at 36w each. This is the first full grow with
the LED and also with the 4th plant.

The scrog helps me to maximize the 250s low penetration. By keeping the canopy equidistance from the bulb, it helps to maximize the 250s small coverage.
 
eastcoastmo

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Seriously Stoney, you are the scrog MASTER! Im in serious awe of your scrogging ability hey :-D
Apparently i need to rep some ma'fuckers before i can rep you again :( dagnamit!
 
bassman999

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stoneslacker said:
Thanks Bass! I am running a 250w HPS and supplementing with (2) Kessil 150 LEDs which are rated at 36w each. This is the first full grow with
the LED and also with the 4th plant.

The scrog helps me to maximize the 250s low penetration. By keeping the canopy equidistant from the bulb, it helps to maximize the 250s small coverage.
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I need to try growing in a small space to teach me needed skills I dont posess
 
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eastcoastmo said:
Seriously Stoney, you are the scrog MASTER! Im in serious awe of your scrogging ability hey :-D
Apparently i need to rep some ma'fuckers before i can rep you again :( dagnamit!
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Thanks bro! Speaking of scrog masters have you fired up your grow yet? I think you said your going with 400w instead of 600w? Keep me in the loop!


bassman999 said:
I need to try growing in a small space to teach me needed skills I dont posess
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Hey Bass, I think it has alot to do with me using the hempy system and dialing it in pretty well. Growing really comes down to
finding something that works and tweaking it a little bit at a time.

Some of my feelings on hempys: IMO hempys are more similar to soil grows than to DWC, NFT or other types of active hydro.

In active hydro oxygenation is provided through aeration of the nutrient solution either in the rez or bucket with air pumps. Hempys
do not have this aeration benefit to assist in getting oxygen to the root zone.

Some argue that to achieve this benefit you should water daily to provide fresh oxygenated water to the roots. IMO this is not the proper
way. My theory is that watering and letting the buckets dry out really good between waterings allows evaporation in the root zone to draw
warmer oxygen rich air down into the root zone.

If watered daily only the top few inches of the bucket ever start to dry out and evaporation is never able to draw fresh air down far enough.
Oxygen is the reason for explosive growth in hydro. Even in soil, a well aerated medium will produce much better than a compacted soil bed.

For this reason I let my buckets dry out almost completely. I never let them get to the point where they stress or start to wilt or droop, but
I do let the buckets get extremely light before I water.

I also believe that hempys should be fed with every watering. I will do a couple in-grow flushes to wash away salt buildup during the grow, but
other than that I feed every time I water, about every 2-4 days depending on where they are at in the grow cycle.

Another thing about hempys is ph. IMO ph is very important in hempys. Certain elements are better utilized by cannabis at different ph levels.
In veg I ph to around 5.8-6.0. Once I hit flower I bump it up to around 6.2 and then around mid flower to the end I slowly raise it from 6.3-6.5.

This chart helps to show what I am talking about.
 
bassman999

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stoneslacker said:
Thanks bro! Speaking of scrog masters have you fired up your grow yet? I think you said your going with 400w instead of 600w? Keep me in the loop!



Hey Bass, I think it has alot to do with me using the hempy system and dialing it in pretty well. Growing really comes down to
finding something that works and tweaking it a little bit at a time.

Some of my feelings on hempys: IMO hempys are more similar to soil grows than to DWC, NFT or other types of active hydro.

In active hydro oxygenation is provided through aeration of the nutrient solution either in the rez or bucket with air pumps. Hempys
do not have this aeration benefit to assist in getting oxygen to the root zone.

Some argue that to achieve this benefit you should water daily to provide fresh oxygenated water to the roots. IMO this is not the proper
way. My theory is that watering and letting the buckets dry out really good between waterings allows evaporation in the root zone to draw
warmer oxygen rich air down into the root zone.

If watered daily only the top few inches of the bucket ever start to dry out and evaporation is never able to draw fresh air down far enough.
Oxygen is the reason for explosive growth in hydro. Even in soil, a well aerated medium will produce much better than a compacted soil bed.

For this reason I let my buckets dry out almost completely. I never let them get to the point where they stress or start to wilt or droop, but
I do let the buckets get extremely light before I water.

I also believe that hempys should be fed with every watering. I will do a couple in-grow flushes to wash away salt buildup during the grow, but
other than that I feed every time I water, about every 2-4 days depending on where they are at in the grow cycle.

Another thing about hempys is ph. IMO ph is very important in hempys. Certain elements are better utilized by cannabis at different ph levels.
In veg I ph to around 5.8-6.0. Once I hit flower I bump it up to around 6.2 and then around mid flower to the end I slowly raise it from 6.3-6.5.

This chart helps to show what I am talking about.
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I had a grow with soilless, and hempys.
The hempys kicked serious ass directly compared to the Sunshine ones.

I let them dry out as well.
Usually 3-4 days between waterings, and the next day the new growth was very noticeable.
 
eastcoastmo

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Hey Stoney, yeah mate, will be getting my tent going this weekend actually :) and yep just going for the 400w this time, had too many power issues with the 600! Will start up a thread once its done and keep you posted mate ;)
 
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Hey guys, the site problems are killing my photo uploads. The girls are swelling nicely and I have started the dry koolbloom and will
continue through this weekend.

I will look to start my final flush early next week with a target harvest date of sometime in the 1st week of March. I'll try again to get some
pics up tonight.

Popped the beans for my next grow. I received a bunch of free seeds from my buddy and decided to go with Barney's Liberty Haze, Dinafem OG Kush, and GH White Widow.
I'm not the biggest Arjan fan but the WW was free and developed by Shantibaba and Neville anyway. I also popped one Royal Queen Power Flower as a backup since the LH
didn't look like it was going to germ.

I am only going to run a 3 plant scrog next round and have some breeder clones to seed for a feminizing project.

Not sure if I am going to journal the next grow yet. If I do I will probably start a new journal due to the feminizing experiment.

Peace


BTW here is a list of the other freebies I have now.

Dinafem Blue Widow
Dina Blue Thai
Super Strains Amnesia (2)
Reserva Privada OG Kush
Dinafem Super Silver Haze
Big Buddha Chiesel
GH White Widow (2)
Royal Queen Power Flower
Royal queen Critical (4)
Royal Queen Medic (6)
Barney's Liberty Haze
G13 Gigabud
G13 Raw Diesel
World of Seeds Northern Lights x Skunk

Also have 20 Kerala x Skunk #1 regular seeds.


After the next grow I'll take the summer off save for a 12/12 from seed or clone run. Come fall I will run
the Amnesia, SSH and some Super Lemon Haze that I ordered.
 
Javadog

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Hey SS,

Great post up there. I agree on the feeding every day, using
the logic that hempy material is not soil and so they provide no
nutrients at all. Adding nutes at some level make the medium
approximate soil.

I liked the pH thoughts. I am not doing this, but will check what
my numbers are.

Take care,

JD
 
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bassman999 said:
I had a grow with soilless, and hempys.
The hempys kicked serious ass directly compared to the Sunshine ones.

I let them dry out as well.
Usually 3-4 days between waterings, and the next day the new growth was very noticeable.
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It is pretty amazing when you think about all the different growing techs available. I seen a guy use a 50/50 soiless/perlite mix with
good results. In the end the gnats drove him to ditch the soiless part.

I would have to say that a dialed-in hydroponic grow would outperform all techs in most cases. I have a bud that kills it in 5 gal hempys, but my other friend in RWDC is
just destroying him in yield per plant right now. Another uses a NFT system and also kills it.

You know who does the least work? The hempy guy of course. So it is definitely a trade off either way.

Edit: I wanted to add that my buddy runs a great system to feed his hempys. He has buckets on a converted flood table that drains into his sewer line.
He took one of the larger igloo coolers, adapted a regular spigot and attached a hose and garden wand. He
lets it gravity feed and waters like that. Works great.

eastcoastmo said:
Hey Stoney, yeah mate, will be getting my tent going this weekend actually :) and yep just going for the 400w this time, had too many power issues with the 600! Will start up a thread once its done and keep you posted mate ;)
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I am looking forward to this. Eagerly awaiting what strain choice you're going with. Can't wait.


Javadog said:
Hey SS,

Great post up there. I agree on the feeding every day, using
the logic that hempy material is not soil and so they provide no
nutrients at all. Adding nutes at some level make the medium
approximate soil.

I liked the pH thoughts. I am not doing this, but will check what
my numbers are.

Take care,

JD
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Thanks JD. I am a bit overly anal about my ph, my same buddy that grows hempy just broadly guesstimates how much ph down to add. And I
mean broadly, I don't think I've ever seen him use the same amount twice.

I like to think that I'm making a difference but sometimes you just gotta wonder.

Lol I also like to adjust ph +/- 0.1 between feedings. That's pretty bad, but I am supremely talented with
ph down now and no longer need the ph up to correct my 4.8ph nute solution mistakes. :wall:


Peace
 
Javadog

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Great stuff!

BTW: I checked the pH of my Compost Tea, that I use as the base
when I feed, and it is neutral, 7.0. This must explain why I have
gotten lucky pH-wise...IIRC nutes are designed to be used with a
neutral water source.

I will test the results of mixing the nutes next.

JD
 
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Day 49 is in the books. They look pretty close, I'll monitor them close and might move up my flush.

Critical+ has a real nice skunky smell to her. She has some nice size to her and very dense buds.




Black Russian





Cheese




Trainwreck looks like she is throwing out male parts. I may cut her in the next couple days if I see anything else pop up.




I think I am going to take her tomorrow night. She looks pretty close to done anyway.
 

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Oh wow Stoney, they look soooooo nice hey :-D
Your next run sounds awesome too, should get some interesting phenos too ;)
As for my next run, it will be my own made DJ Short Blueberry x Mr Nice White shark :) hoping this cutting i took shows some roots soon as i have to go away on sunday so will go straight in the system under a 400w MH to begin with! Stay tuned brother :)
 
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Picture.jpghey stoneslacker youre hittin on all 8 & i think my questions are pretty much answered as i look back through your thread my room is all cluttered right now as im running my ballast in my room [free heat] until things warm up a bit then im gonna put in mylar & hook up my inline duct fans but for now heat is not an issue ill soon be starting a new thread as my grow has changed up a bit had to start over as i overnuted my babies good thing my friend had extra babies my impatience cost me youve got a good thread here with lots of positive things WELL DONE!!!:clap:
 
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