Still drooping, help needed!

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Alex77145

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So I posted a thread 12 days ago saying my seedling was looking droopy. I thought It was because of the top feed, but that was removed a few days ago and nothing has really changed. The plant overall is dark and the tips, which curl/droop the most are looking almost purplyish. So I thought it was a N toxicity. I changed the res water yesterday and fed the less. Today it's not looking too much better. Do I have to wait longer to see recovery?

I don't want to consider it not having enough air, because I am running 2 pumps with 4 airstones. 14,4lpm total in 20l of water. The temperature is on the low side. Roots look fine.
 

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Your pics are huge man... Add them to your post as a full image, bot thumbnails. If you JUST changed water, give it some time. Keep the water as cool aas you can.
 
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What nutrients? Are you using CalMag? If so, are you making Sure to mix that into your RO water FIRST?
 
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Airwalker16 said:
Your pics are huge man... Add them to your post as a full image, bot thumbnails. If you JUST changed water, give it some time. Keep the water as cool aas you can.
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Changed the water 24h ago. And the water is maybe even a little cooler than it should.
 
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Follow this. Make SURE you mix CalMag FIRST. STIR IT/SHAKE IT WELL with your water. Then add the micro. STOP. Stir that well. Then the gro. STOP. Stir that well. And finally the bloom and you guessed it. STIR. Have you been doing that? Even without cal mag?
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I added another pump, so now I have 21,6lpm of air pumping through 20l of water to see if I have an oxygen problem
 
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Airwalker16 said:
Follow this. Make SURE you mix CalMag FIRST. STIR IT/SHAKE IT WELL with your water. Then add the micro. STOP. Stir that well. Then the gro. STOP. Stir that well. And finally the bloom and you guessed it. STIR. Have you been doing that? Even without cal mag?
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I fill up the tub and just squirt in the nutes one after the other. I always did micro first, but Gro and Bloom went in randomly.

I'm using tap water.

I guess next time I will just mix it all in a seperate container the right way and then pour it in?
 
JSB99

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Alex77145 said:
So I posted a thread 12 days ago saying my seedling was looking droopy. I thought It was because of the top feed, but that was removed a few days ago and nothing has really changed. The plant overall is dark and the tips, which curl/droop the most are looking almost purplyish. So I thought it was a N toxicity. I changed the res water yesterday and fed the less. Today it's not looking too much better. Do I have to wait longer to see recovery?

I don't want to consider it not having enough air, because I am running 2 pumps with 4 airstones. 14,4lpm total in 20l of water. The temperature is on the low side. Roots look fine.
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Drooping is usually caused by two things, over-watering, and under-watering. Since you have a dwc, over-watering is a non-issue. I'm thinking that she's not getting enough water. When they're small like that, the bubbling water below has a hard time getting moisture all the way up through the hydroton to the small roots. Try hand-watering her until she has roots hanging below the netpot.
 
JSB99

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If she's not getting enough water, that means that she's also not getting enough nutrients, which may be what you're seeing here. Just a thought.
 
Airwalker16

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Alex77145 said:
I fill up the tub and just squirt in the nutes one after the other. I always did micro first, but Gro and Bloom went in randomly.

I'm using tap water.

I guess next time I will just mix it all in a seperate container the right way and then pour it in?
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No all in one container. One mixed in after the other. That's your problem. Your nutrients are locked out.
 
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You HAVE to fullllly mix each one in really well, one at a time. And check your PPM of your tap water. You should be using RO water for sure
 
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JSB99 said:
Drooping is usually caused by two things, over-watering, and under-watering. Since you have a dwc, over-watering is a non-issue. I'm thinking that she's not getting enough water. When they're small like that, the bubbling water below has a hard time getting moisture all the way up through the hydroton to the small roots. Try hand-watering her until she has roots hanging below the netpot.
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He already has tried to hand water and just stopped. It's in the thread earlier. His problem is mixing wrong. I guarantee it.
 
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Alex77145 said:
So I posted a thread 12 days ago saying my seedling was looking droopy. I thought It was because of the top feed, but that was removed a few days ago and nothing has really changed. The plant overall is dark and the tips, which curl/droop the most are looking almost purplyish. So I thought it was a N toxicity. I changed the res water yesterday and fed the less. Today it's not looking too much better. Do I have to wait longer to see recovery?

I don't want to consider it not having enough air, because I am running 2 pumps with 4 airstones. 14,4lpm total in 20l of water. The temperature is on the low side. Roots look fine.
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im new with dwc try turning your air pumps off and lowering the level of water in your rezz so your roots can grow down more. and start producing roots that will uptake oxygen she looks suffocated
i have noticed that air pump/stone change the ph of my water plus i feel the air pump can put allot of hot air in your rezz if there pumping air from in your tent. move air pump out of tent.
i stopped with dwc went to coca now i am trying the kratky method just one small plant for now but i am finding it so much easier then using air pump ph drop isnt happening no root rot and rez temps stay more stable. if you are changing your rezz all the time i see no need for air pumps the roots and uptake enough oxygen if there not fully submerged in water. even in dwc the roots should never be fully submerged
 
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Kipn said:
im new with dwc try turning your air pumps off and lowering the level of water in your rezz so your roots can grow down more. and start producing roots that will uptake oxygen she looks suffocated
i have noticed that air pump/stone change the ph of my water plus i feel the air pump can put allot of hot air in your rezz if there pumping air from in your tent. move air pump out of tent.
i stopped with dwc went to coca now i am trying the kratky method just one small plant for now but i am finding it so much easier then using air pump ph drop isnt happening no root rot and rez temps stay more stable. if you are changing your rezz all the time i see no need for air pumps the roots and uptake enough oxygen if there not fully submerged in water. even in dwc the roots should never be fully submerged
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You didn't do DwC right.
 
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JSB99 said:
If she's not getting enough water, that means that she's also not getting enough nutrients, which may be what you're seeing here. Just a thought.
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from what i can see his net cup is touching the water level with a ball of roots in water. roots are too wet
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You didn't do DwC right.
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i have done 1real dwc then stopped because it was too much effort so swapped to coca growing now i am trying kratky method what requires no air pumps. if you dont know what the kratky method is i sugest you look it up before you comment saying a plant wont grow with out aeration. but thats not the point i was getting at. in one of them photos it looks like the net cup is touching the water. i am saying drop water level abit as plant is suffocating regardless of how much air is being pumped in the water
 
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